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TheChosen1 · Joined: 21 Dec 2008 Posts: 32 Location: Chicago

Latly Ive been a lil confused. I feel, within the depths of my soul that God has placed me on this path and the devil is trying to confuse me. I've been proficied to 3 times in my life about the good I will do. I believe I will acomplish this by becomning a light receptor in these upcomming times of need when the illuminati starts the new world order. I will become this receptor obviously by opening all 12 chakras (7 in and 5 out the body) and reach accension into the 4th dimension. Now wat is really causing confusion is my research on satanism talking about how lucifer means " the lightbearer". I also am aware that the 3rd eye( chakra point between the eyes) is also refered to as the eye of Osiris or Horus. Illuminati symbolism uses this to symbolize satan, not God. I always pray and ask God if I'm doing the right thing. I feel I am but Im just not sure because I know the devil plays many tricks. Please, some1 help me clear this up.

d_redant · Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 7:35 pm Post subject:

Magick is not against God/Source.

I will give you more details in a couple days. Don't have the time now.

You are one of the many who have been brainwashed into thinking that Magick is not approved by the Source.

BARASHIN · Joined: 28 Nov 2009 Posts: 491 Location: Now

I've had similar questions / concerns as well, though I understand that all/most religions who site magic sources all come back to the creator...but then is it considered evil?

d_redant · Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2009 5:31 am Post subject: Re: Is magic/magick against God?

Hi,

Yes God/Source/Universe has placed you on this path and negative energies and lower dimensional beings try to confuse you.

You are a divine light receptor and you will succeed in countering these negative vibrations by simply focussing on positive things rather than negative things. By doing this regularly you will raise your vibration and these things will not affect you.

For example I can say that 666 has nothing to do with the devil and even if I see this sign pop up into my awareness anywhere in physical reality I just thank the Universe for this Synchronicity that just happened.

I do not associate it to something bad. If I were to do that I would be setting myself up for a fall and may attract something bad into my life experience. After all If I expected something bad to happen to me I would be broadcasting that vibration out to the universe in a screaming way begging for something bad to happen.

Picture whatever you put out gets outputted through a large hi fi speaker system that is the size of earth!...Now picture your fear of something bad happening to you being broadcasted on HIGH VOLUME on this Speaker System.

The effect would be amplified greatly out into the Universe and bring all sorts and manner of negative vibrations/energies/beings into your reality.

You will pull all these nasties from various dimensions into yours and as such will start to have an immense streak of 'bad luck'

You Have a Choice to broadcast what you want.

What do you choose? Fear? or Love?

Broadcast Love of everything and Higher Dimensional Beings and levels of existence will open up to you. Broadcast Love and you will have 'good luck'...create your own Luck.

Broadcast Fear and you will continue to attract more things for you to fear.

Choose LOVE.

As for Illuminati and whatever plans they have I would say all is happening in Divine Order. Everything happens in Divine Order.

Even Hitler was Divine Order believe it or not.

As for the symbolism of third eye chakra also referred to as eye of Osiris or Horus that is not a bad thing at all and has nothing to do with Satan.

Lucifer means Lightbearer. Lucifer is playing its part on behalf of the Source.

There must be opposing forces active for any form of spiritual growth and evolution. When we transcend all these opposing negative forces into positive life affirming energies we really evolve.

It's all part of the Divine Plan.

How you progress in this reality is to recognize that there is Cause and Effect and that it plays an active part in your day to day lives.

Acting with Love is the Key. Love really is the most powerful energy.

I have experienced this myself for years and years.

Illuminati have used Universal Symbols and dipped their hands into various forms of mystical traditions in effort to tap into Universal forces for their own means of control.

Again they are playing their part..and all is exactly as it should be to spur OUR utmost growth and evolution,

Back to the question of Is Magick against God.

Simply put No.

You see Magick is what humans have utilized for eons and eons in many varying forms to tap into the realms of metaphysics (beyond physics).

Most earth religions have a Magickal branch that deals with rituals,spells,focus,insight and much more.

Inherently they all lead back to the same thing. That there is a Main Divine Force or Supreme Divine Being/Source/Universe/God/Intelligence that governs our Universe....

That there are multiple individual personifications of this great Source experiencing itself on various levels of existence like demigods, greek gods, deities, etc,etc

That there are non-physical realms of existence like the mental,astral,spiritual,dimensions,heavens,etc..

Put another way the Source of all things finds it way to Experience itself in a variety of forms to get a full spectrum Experience of All Realities of which we are on the Physical and dip into the Metaphysical (beyond the Physical) by tapping into such things as Magick, Healing, Remote Viewing, Psychic Abilities, Manifestation, Meditation and much more.

Everything is connected and we are essentially all one and come as varying shapes,forms,colors and sizes.

Earth is a Cosmic Melting pot of Intelligences from all over the Universe.

Those who have fears about Magick should stay away and try other paths but respect Magick as part of themselves too. We all do Magick in some form or the other even if you realize it or not. We are all One.

Those who have a deep fascination with Magick should follow their inner calling to dig into it more and practice whatever Magickal Arts that they are drawn to. This drive to get into Magick relies on your Soul and its level of development/experience and should be followed if you are deeply fascinated with Magick. It's just your calling. So follow it if you so feel guided.

Continue doing whatever you are guided to do. Follow your Inner Guidance.

Stop focussing on the Devil playing tricks on you. Unless you want to continue giving energy to that...and thereby continue to fuel it into existence.

TheChosen1 · Joined: 21 Dec 2008 Posts: 32 Location: Chicago

Thank you for your reply. I realize this now. Its like I knew, but second guesses were comming from somewhere. The very next day after this post, the universe sent a friend to me that I hadn't seen since 2007 and was shocked to see he was into this also. Last time we spoke, neither of us had the wisdom we have now. I do understand even more now that everything is as I precieve it to be and that I am God, choosing to experience life in this form. Although I got my information else where, I am glad that I can look here for answers as well. Thank you again. The teachings from the Pleiadians on YouTube helped me alot also.

TheChosen1 · Joined: 21 Dec 2008 Posts: 32 Location: Chicago

And also, as far as the illuminati, when i first learned of this i was overwhelmed with emotion and off instinct also had alot of fear. But I soon just embraced the emotions and realized now that everthing is meant to happen as it is. Even if they do try to cause physical death upon me with concentration camps and the new world order and all that, i know that they cant. I know this now because I am the illuminati and i will not allow myself to physically or spirtually harm myself.

Caerdon · Joined: 18 Sep 2009 Posts: 126 Location: Canada

no type of magick/ magic is either good or evil in itself. How we use it, yes, and even then it is coloured by shades of grey.
I could go on about this but it would get to be too long and complicated.

Sabrinmg · Joined: 29 Jan 2012 Posts: 192 Location: Over the rainbow

this is a common concern and everyone has their own take on it. my take on it is that God is everything. all things at once. God is All That Is. therefore, Magick or anything else, is God. all the seperatness inherent on Earth, is due to perception. nothing is this or that. everything is this and that. thinking that anything is anything makes it so. at the end of the day, we are each responsible for our own thoughts, feelings, actions and so on. if we don't like something, change that in ourself. if you want to change the world, do it one person at a time, starting with yourself. to do that - know thyself.

haywired · Joined: 19 Mar 2015 Posts: 19

I agree with the replies so far, magick is not against God/Universe/Source. When some group of people want to symbolize the third eye with an animal or whatever it is just their own fancy and has nothing to do with anything else. People like symbolism, I guess in this way.

If anything, and if you're religious I'd believe that God wants you to use these psychic gifts because they are in you by nature.

tantra · Joined: 06 Oct 2015 Posts: 9

Is magic/magick against God? Short answer is No view these quotes for better understanding.

“Magick is the Science and Art of causing Change to occur in conformity with Will.”
-Aleister Crowley, Magick in Theory and Practice

“Magic is the Highest, most Absolute, and most Divine Knowledge of Natural Philosophy, advanced in its works and wonderful operations by a right understanding of the inward and occult virtue of things; so that true Agents being applied to proper Patients, strange and admirable effects will thereby be produced. Whence magicians are profound and diligent searchers into Nature; they, because of their skill, know how to anticipate an effect, the which to the vulgar shall seem to be a miracle.”
-The Goetia of the Lemegeton of King Solomon

“Sorcery has been called Magic: but Magic is Wisdom, and there is no wisdom in Sorcery.”
-Paracelsus

“A thorough familiarity with the occult faculties of everything existing in nature, visible as well as invisible; their mutual relations, attractions, and repulsions; the cause of these, traced to the spiritual principle to manifest itself, in other words a profound and exhaustive knowledge of natural law – this was and is the basis of magic.”
-Helena Blavatsky, Isis Unveiled Vol. I.

“Magic is the exact and absolute science of nature and its laws.”
-General Albert Pike

“In reality, magic is a sacred science, it is, in a very true sense, the sum of all knowledge because it teaches how to know and utilize the sovereign rules. There is no difference between magician and mystic or any other conception of the name. Wherever authentic initiation is at stake, one has to proceed on the same basis, according to the same rules, irrespective of the name given by this or that creed.” - Franz Bardon

Each of these remarks regarding magic illustrate certain principles: that the will of the theurgist is the mechanism of magic, and that magic itself is a path of wisdom which pursues the sublime laws of nature, and utilizes them for spiritual evolution.

SpiritPsy · Joined: 06 Feb 2018 Posts: 9

Dark sorcery or dark occultism has little to no True power but to mock God and man. And it's really about egotism. Real magic comes from only one place: The Source, and His Immutable Laws Principals and Truths. It is very common for the occultist, or the real initiate as I would call it, to fall into the state of mind you're currently in. The reason for that, is that, that knowledge is very heavy in vibratory frequency. ie base consciousness. Thus it lowers ones emotional energy, something I would also call a Dissolution. What you have to understand is that the Spiritual Path can be a very lonely one. That's because few humans are on it, at least in a conscious spiritual sense of trying to understand it's mystical properties. So, you just need to remember there's going to be ups and downs, and many of them, as you will be pulled in both directions by yourself, other people, and the system/culture/society. However the rewards for steady Faith are incredible. The name "Light Bearer" for the dark one and dark/base consciousness I tend to look at like this: It is the name of the fallen angel given to the angel before his fall. His name now being Satan. (Adversary) However, you're right it does have a duel meaning in occultism, which I believe is deliberate to fool people in some texts. Trying to get people to join the dark side of the force, if you will. I see it now as "you have to go through the darkness/pain to get to the light sometimes." In this way, at least for me, that duality is resolved. Choose Tho Good Or Evil? That's the only real question you need to think about. I suggest Good. evil (e-veil energy veil) is literal darkness, chaos, emotional pain, and the slavery of your potential to base consciousness, and others with strong base consciousness connection. Have Faith, look for other sources of more enlightened material. It get's better, A Lot Better.

Good Luck God Bless Wink

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