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piscesgirl



Joined: 30 Jan 2005
Posts: 112

PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2005 1:31 am    Post subject: what was I seeing? Reply with quote

A lot of times right when I wake up, when I'm in between the waking and dream state I see or hear strange things. I saw what looked like a grayish, ghostly figure pulling back my covers and getting into bed with me. I was facing the wall and its not like it had room, it was floating around me and it was like it was getting into my body. It frieghtened me and I moaned and turned away. I've been reading a lot about astral travel and thought it might have been my astral self coming back. Is this possible? Another night I saw the same ghostly, grayish figure of my husband getting into bed. But then I realized he was laying there the whole time. Can anyone give me a clue as to what I saw? Thanks, Lacey
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Zygos



Joined: 16 Aug 2005
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2005 8:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmmm...somewhat rare but its possible your seeing dream states. Basically a dream state is like an astral body, but instead its the core of the person's energy while dreaming.

Also could be an astral viewing. Are you sure it was your body in the bed?

Sorry don't have any more suggesitons.

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piscesgirl



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 05, 2005 5:42 am    Post subject: dream state Reply with quote

Yeah, it was almost like me coming back into bed. It just scared me. I don't know why it would be pulling back the covers and getting into bed. Or maybe I am just seeing dreams but I'm waking up and they are there in front of me like a movie. The face was very shaded. It almost looked like it was wearing a cloak and had that hood over its head. It felt female because it was small. So thats another reason I thought it was my astral body coming back. And then seeing my husband coming back into the bed and him already being there the whole time was weird. Okay thanks, Lacey
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Phoenix37



Joined: 16 Aug 2005
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 5:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You may just be seeing a resonance of events that had already taken place, or had your mind partially in the future/past, semi-watching events that were/will taking/take place.
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piscesgirl



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2005 5:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, Phoenix, it was really weird and scared me a bit. I don't like seeing those things floating around my room at night. But a part of me does want to see something. Lacey
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Chris_com28



Joined: 19 Jul 2005
Posts: 89

PostPosted: Sat Sep 10, 2005 9:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It could also just be an hallucination. I used to get them quite a bit during the stages between sleep and awake.
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piscesgirl



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 12, 2005 1:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah but seeing something pulling back the covers and getting into bed with you, pretty freaky weather your halluncinating or seeing a spirit! I don't know what is was, but it never happened before. It was right when I got up and enough for me to turn away from it and moan. Weird. I don't know guys. And then thinking I saw my husband getting back into bed when he wasn't up at all. Your guesses are still as good as mine. I haven't seen anything weird since then except these white and black shadows that I am used to now. Thanks for the tips. Lacey
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astrotalk
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Joined: 13 Aug 2005
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 12, 2005 4:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You have a "spirit" around you that wants to come thru ...and
communicate with you. It shows that sometimes ...you believe
in the "spiritual realm" ...and then at other times ....you just
aren't sure. This is reason ..."spirits" have reaveled their
presence to you. There is nothing to be ..afraid of here .....
.....only time to time make "choice" ....is opening up for you
to decide to ....seriously pursue ...."spiritual path" or reject
it ....It is solely ...your "choice" ...in this life ...and you should
not allow anyone's opinion ...to influence your decision ...pro
or con ......Blessings for success in making the "choice" that's
right for you ..........


BK
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piscesgirl



Joined: 30 Jan 2005
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 12, 2005 6:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, thanks, Astrotalk. An answer I was looking for. I want to talk with them and I can feel them. I am afraid. Its not that anyone says its wrong. But I guess it goes back to the way I was raised to be deprogrammed of having seeing anything that has to do with metaphysics.
The spirit seemed female and like she wasn't trying to harm me. She just spooked me out. It looked like she was wearing a cape over her head and I could see a small, little face looking at me. But I brushed it away out of fear and turned my back and sort of moaned like, "I don't want to deal with you!" I have more time on my hands now and I have been meditating and doing some magic that has worked. At night I see these white and black things moving all around me and it still freaks me. But I want to change my attitude and start talking with them. I think its cool, but I don't really know how to SEE them physically. I guess just keep doing these meditation exercises, right? I'm sure they could help me out. Is there any special things I could do to ease the fear and open myself up to seeing them? Any advice would help. I am a pisces (obviously) and my central theme is spirit so I'm highly interested. Thanks, Very Happy Lacey
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jemmi



Joined: 07 Nov 2005
Posts: 26
Location: Gridworkers - OH200 SpecOps

PostPosted: Sun Nov 20, 2005 5:08 am    Post subject: The In-between state.... Reply with quote

That "in-between" state of which you spoke is commonly referred to as the hypnogogic state. It occurs just between "asleep" and "wakefulness", and is the perfect time for Phase Shifts (astral projection).

What you described in your initial posts sounds very much like a Phase Shift (astral projection) and the female body trying to "get into" your own is likely yourself (ELF (astral) energy shell).

It is also possible your husband you saw floating around is him in his astral shell as well.

The other shifting forms you see in the hypnogogic state (pre-astral) could potentially be others (beings) on the astral signal to which you are merging and/or gravititing at the "in-between" time.

You might ask some of the beings you see - using your mind - who they are, if they have a name, where they are from - maybe even try start up a conversation.

I would be interested in a follow-up of your experience(s) if you would like to post another on this...

Fascinating!

LnL jemmi (Gridworkers - 0H00)
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gridworkers
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/astral_links
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CrimsonSorceress



Joined: 17 Jan 2006
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Location: between the worlds

PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 6:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would wake up couple times a year, to go to pee or something, and there would be all sorts of geometry, networks, moving ribbons with beautiful patterns, all webs and stuff. I usually think I wish I knew what to do with all that other than enjoy it and make sure I go back to sleep before it fades (having it fade on me would be too sad to watch and I know that instantly).
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Ironghost



Joined: 24 Jan 2006
Posts: 14

PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 4:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have to agree 100% with jemmi's take on your experience. You definitely had a hypnagogic experience. This is the state that is in between dreaming and wakefulness. I have been "trapped" there many time myself -- and in the hypnagogic state, all kinds of strange experiences can happen!

Note: I want to emphasize that the hypnagogic state is not a bad thing -- in fact, it's a very excellent platform for one to take off and do some real exploring, as in lucid dreams and astral travel!

In fact, one of the keys steps to astral travel or lucid dreaming is learning to get to the hypnagogic state on purpose.

Also: When you experience fearful things in these realms -- stop being afraid! Those scary things that confront you -- they are your own fears! You own them, you control them, you call the shots! Rather, face them and confront them. I always ask dark scary figures: "Who are you and what do you want?"

This almost always produces just totally amazing results! And I mean positive growth experiences!

There's much, much more to discuss here, but I've been long-winded enough already!
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