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sabioa1



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 03, 2010 4:13 am    Post subject: organic materials?for orgonite Reply with quote

what`s the best organic materials for power wands?can anyone list the best organic materials based in experience,i saw some kind of rocks,and sand in hobby shops,is it good,or are there special kind for orgonite?in my machine i use copper powder,steel powder,and crystal small nuggets,when i mix this whith the resin,it get extremely hot,for a few minutes isit normal?now a month after,i notice my 3 power wands looks like are crying?seems to me like from inside to outside bubbles oil,like sweeting,you can see this in the pics,i just notice this.one month after building this machine i still notice this kind of oil on top of power wands


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Gemneye



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 11:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

when i made my first power wand the top stayed kinda oily and sticky for several years. in my case i believe i didn't add enough hardner to the resin when i first mixed the resin. now i use a quick hardening resin which is equal parts of resin and hardner mixed. as for the getting hot, yeah its normal the resin heats up for a period as it sets and then cools of as it hardens.
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Sorynzar
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm far from experienced with orgonite, but from what I know the exothermic reaction is completely normal. The oil means you have not mixed quite enough hardener, but I believe there is a type of spray that you can get to eliminate this oily substance from the surface, I think its surface sealant spray used in body repair work.
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sabioa1



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 12:14 am    Post subject: organic materials?for orgonite Reply with quote

thanks ,btw any good materials (organics)for orgonite?im planing to print,my pattern in glass or plastic,a very thin layer and set it on top of my orgonite during the process,what`s better?thanks anyone 4 ur help
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Gemneye



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 7:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Resin can be considered your organic component. I have had success with using parafin wax as the organic with metal bb's. Not as powerful as a resin mix, but it worked. i tried using white glue and bb's once. the glue never set and all i had to show for the attempt was a sticky useless mess.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 10:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe the resin should not be considered as the organic component.

You should aim to use a 50% organic mixture and a 50% metallic mixture. Add some crushed quartz, or quartz silica to the mix in equal amounts. Charcoal granules could be used as your organic components, as could saw dust, some people even use natural oils, such as sunflower oil.
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Flash Drive



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 9:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Charcoal granules could be used as your organic components, as could saw dust, some people even use natural oils, such as sunflower oil.


This will not work, period.

The organic component in orgonite refers to long chain carbon molecule compounds. Not organic like a carrot.

Polyester and epoxy resins are ideal and time tested organic components in orgonite devices. The shrinkage that occurs during curing process also pressures the crystal component creating a piezoelectric effect beneficial to proper functioning.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 11, 2010 10:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What I fail to fully understand is the insulating effects of polymers which in turn affect the flow of eloptic energy. I understand that not all polymers are capable of blocking the eloptic energy, and it's usually a certain polymer with a specific structure of overlapping matrix's which cause this. If a hydrocarbon is used as the "organic" component then we are creating nothing more than an extremely crude capacitor. There is a distinguishable difference between an organic insulator and an inorganic insulator, the hydrocarbon polymers falling into the latter. It is a view that the epoxy is to hold the two primary components in place. While this will work with a metallic component alone due to the epoxy's dielectric effect, surely adding a purely organic substance which once contained a life force such as petrified wood would help to increase the output potential?

It's all well and good saying that the hydrocarbons of which the polymers are made are essentially ancient sunlight, but the hydrocarbon having undergone its separation has now arrived at a kaput mortem, holding no life spark at all.

How can we scientifically test the hypothesis that one device is greater than the other if we have no instrument to test it? I know that's a typical scientific approach to getting around a tricky situation. Every instrument I have built and tested relays no more information than that of background static or general air capacitance. While I accept that ELF may have a direct link with eloptic energies I cannot see how to separate the two.

If there is an apparatus which could be relied upon to give accurate readings of the power output of an orgonite device. I would truly love to get hold of one, if anyone knows of such a device, please feel free to contact me, or reply to this post.
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sabioa1



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 12, 2010 12:50 am    Post subject: organic materials?for orgonite Reply with quote

thanks a lot ,all of you,as you know this is my special proyect,this orgonite pattern it is gone a look like a pizza 1.5"thik and about 15"radious ,the bottom it may be 1.5x12"square im gone a place an antenna in the circle,i have velleman fm transmiter,and also 7w amp,some times im gone use it as radionics amplifier,or radionics transmiter,is it a good idea,to use glass or plastic,to mimic my pattern,whats better plastic,or clear thin glass,the pattern it is the most importtant part of my orgonite device,it is a circle whith triangles like pizza 1/2 circle triangles black-blue-black-blue,the other half,blue background whith some black clouds?that was my vision,i have most of materials i need time to work on it,thanks a lot for your help
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Gemneye



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 12, 2010 8:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

wow, got pretty intense. all i know is i've always considered resin as the organic component, because thats how i learned it. good luck sabioa1!
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