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Zygos



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

amethea wrote:
I've finally figured out why I find this thread so fascinating, besides the philosophy. It's the Engery theories.

Einstein Quantum Theory...light is emitted as wavelike particles,
Einstein General Relativity theory...gravity causes space to be curved, Quantum Mechanics...all energy is composed of particles and probabilities of location,
Unified Field Theory...attempt at finding common entity for all four forces,
Quantum Field Theory...forces are the result of different types of force particles,
Grand Unified Theory...unification of strong, weak, electromagnetic interactions,
Totally Unified Theory...explain working of universe down to single particle,
Theory of Everything...try to explain working of the universe as the biggest picture,

Thank you for making me think. :D


Wow, didn't realize we had touched on so much. True Energetics do usually generally do hit on some energy theory. Just not used to dealing with someone that I can talk science with, where as I'm not getting overwhelemed, (and getting a good channel from) and at the same time it seems to be mutual.

I've said it once, and I'll say it again Amethea if you want to add something feel free. Any and all contributions are welcome. :)

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 21, 2005 12:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zygos, You clever ever.

Zygos;
"Ok actually two things. First when I heard torch I thought of a big stick with a flame on top of it, not that thing with batteries, and a light bulb in front (In Australia, and most of the UK Torch = Flashlight). So the filter brought an interesting image to mind."
\/
excwan replies;
HEHE!!

Zygos;
"I think.../...Don't know for sure though."
\/
excwan replies;
It's good to meet someone who can accept not being sure over choosing to believe something without evidence.
I'm taking about you Zygos.

Zygos;
"Your right. Chlorophyll is the stuff that makes plants green. However can you remember what it does. Again if memory serves its a chemical that is used when creating energy from light (Water + sunlight + Chlorophyll = energy for the plant). So its most likely creating the green when it absorbes everything but the green spectrum to power the plants. And though the plant I belive would still live without the chlorophyll (Via Dark photosynthesis) I'd assume the plant at that point would looks as most roots, and dried grass looks, either a white or a brownish/grayish color. Like a potato for example."
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excwan replies;
This is why I said you're a clever ever.

Zygos;
"Hmmm. Ok. So we would need to focus the manifestion to increase that particular spectrum. And concentrate it on the particular gene...."
\/
exwan replies;
Some people use visualization for specific goals and it suits their purposes well. Others focus on being connected to the source, being the one, this also suits their purposes well.

excwan;
"I realised some stuff last-beautifull-sparkly-night which will help me explain what I mean. Whatever word is used, what I really mean by 'the light', that which I am and you are, is not that which we see with our physical eyes, although that is an aspect of it, I mean life-energy.
Imagine a blade of grass- what we see relfected from it is not the whole truth of what it really is, it's the blade of grass' appearance. Aswell as seeing the appearance, to know the whole truth we need to experience what is behind the appearance aswell. This we can do with our mind's eye which is really the universal mind's eye. When we do this, we not only see one truth of the blade of grass- the appearance- the real illusion, we experience all of it's truths, we experience what some term 'the light' which is really- life-energy."
\/
Zygos;
"Hmmm. True. When we meld with the oneness we understand the bigger picture behind the blade of grass. Smile"
\/
excwan replies;
I just had to put this in again.

excwan;
"It's termed light because like the physical programme light helps our physical programme eyes see, it raises our awareness and we understand more, which we term as seeing, although it's more than that."
\/
Zygos;
"Far easier to see the reflection of things, than to merely sense where they are. Though it also causes a distraction. Next time if you get a moment, instead of looking at the grass close your eyes. Listen to the wind sweeping across the blades. Smell the pugnent grassy smell. Open all your senses to the world around you. And don't merely trust your eyes.
Teaching yourself to either walk backwards, or with your eyes closed can really improve your other senses. And strangely enough soon you will be able to determine where you are by the smell. LOL.
\/
excwan replies;
Yes. I can see where you are with this. I do it too.
I'm a 'General Assistant', in the fresh fruit and veg' department of my local store, and it seems here too, like you.
I just recently went back from a week off on hol's and when I walked into the department, the colours, smells, the taste of the air. It was as if I'd never sensed them before, it was soo goorgeous. I felt in sensory heaven. It does help working with fruit and veg' and I love it there. Sometimes I close my eyes and pin-point a particular fruit or veg' with just the smell or it's taste I can feel in the air on my tongue. Sometimes I do it with my eyes open.
Mmm, lush.
~
Also, I can see your hint at this, about not merely trusting your eyes, you probably mean this too, I would say- 'aswell as' trusting your eyes.'
I used to visualise and stuff with them closed but now I can do it with them open coz I've learnt to distinguish between my senses, which I'm still doing since there is always new input/output.
~
Here I go with a story...
There was a time about six months ago where I was saying to myself/god/ki- 'Thanks for this energy(food) being absorbed into my energy(body), Thanks for this energy, Thanks for the energy being my energy, Thanks for me and this energy being one, Thanks for this energy merging with my energy.'
This went on for about a week every time I ate, for a reason I can only describe as an instinct to say these things.
There was an answer I knew I would acheive through saying these things though I didn't know what it was and I knew I had no other reason to say these things other than knowing that I had to.
So, near the end of the week, I was sitting in the restaurant in work after being with lots of fresh fruit and veg' now eating fresh fruit and veg', absorbing energy, saying these things and I said something along the lines of- 'Thank you for energy.'
The next time I said it was in mind and I acheived an understanding of this melding of life that is the mergance of energy that permeates everything, that is everything. I understood it, realised it, knew it, through experience, because it wasn't just an understanding, it was an active understanding, an active realization, it was an experience that gave me insight.
I was suddenly emerged in what I would term as the 'real-ization' of everything. I actually only just received that word while writing this.
In such a gradual alteration of my perception and sudden appearance of the truth, I became emersed in the most colourful plain white light energy I had ever experienced. I say light because that is as close as I can describe it without going into a plethora of words. Actually, I described this in my last post which I copied into this post- above. (Life-energy)
Every colour and more, beyond the spectrum, in the spectrum. But although I was experiencing this with my eyes open which meant I could see what was happening, my other senses were completely active and I had become totally aware of their input/output, of which there is no real difference. I don't just mean physical senses, these were active aswell, just imagine that you become aware of and begin experiencing the truth of everything being the same energy, that there is no difference between you and the two 'ladies' 'sitting' at the 'table'. Your senses are their senses. 'You' sense... there is no 'you' at this point. 'You' are all there is, litterally. Do you understand that contradiction?
Imagine that you occupy the same space as a book accross the room, that you are the space and the book and the room, and everything else. Actually, in 'real-ization'. there is no space, book or room, just an active force, although this active force does include space, a book, a room, if you wish to use them.
Some experience, I just relaxed and enjoyed it.

Zygos;
"I had always considered that by absorbing it would be becoming one with it, and letting it purify everything, by turning ourselves into the light, and back into a whole body."
\/
excwan;
Yes. This is with the light-life-energy aswell as physical light. Physical light is a good way of visualising life-energy because it contains all the colours of the universe, all the wavelengths, and that is exactly what life-energy is- everything.
\/
Zygos;
"Perspective. But I do agree."
\/
excwan replies;
True.

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excwan



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 12:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zygos, have you not replied coz you think I went a bit over the top with the story?

I only tried to describe the indescribable.

excwan.
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Zygos



Joined: 16 Aug 2005
Posts: 226

PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2005 10:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No my friend, not at all. I will reply soon, but at yet the time hasn't felt right.

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excwan



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2005 1:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good good.
As long as you're ok.

excwan.
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Zygos



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Posts: 226

PostPosted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 12:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, about time I get this reply done. Between a bad cold, and some channel related stuff..anyhow...below. (made this about 2 days ago...)

Quote:

Zygos;
"I think.../...Don't know for sure though."
\/
excwan replies;
It's good to meet someone who can accept not being sure over choosing to believe something without evidence.
I'm taking about you Zygos.

I guess some could call it having low confidence. I know in numerology that in almost every aspect that I am a 1 (Including my hidden number) , and 1's other than being individuals also suffer from some self confidence issues.

However the way I see it I have been wrong in the past, and I'm sure I will potentially be wrong in the present, and future. So thus without evidence I cannot assume that something is correct, but inversely without evidence I still know some things exist that I have not seen with my own eyes, till such a time I merely try to keep open-minded.

Quote:



Zygos;
"Hmmm. Ok. So we would need to focus the manifestion to increase that particular spectrum. And concentrate it on the particular gene...."
\/
exwan replies;
Some people use visualization for specific goals and it suits their purposes well. Others focus on being connected to the source, being the one, this also suits their purposes well.


I guess thats true. For me I use shielding because I belive that without it I am no protected. That I need it, and because of my belief that I need it, well I do. On the other hand there are others out there who do not use shielding, never will, and mostly its becuase they have a belief that they don't need it. So thus either by chance or coinsidence they never do.

If I was going to do that I would have to do a construct to change my genetic code, but before doing so I would want to research to know exactly what the change is doing, and mainfest it as so. With you maybe you can merely say double my lifespan by absorbing light and it works....wouldn't work for me that easily unfortuately.....and yes I do have a bit of a problem with changing my consciousness to belive brand new facts.

Quote:

excwan;
"I realised some stuff last-beautifull-sparkly-night which will help me explain what I mean. Whatever word is used, what I really mean by 'the light', that which I am and you are, is not that which we see with our physical eyes, although that is an aspect of it, I mean life-energy.
Imagine a blade of grass- what we see relfected from it is not the whole truth of what it really is, it's the blade of grass' appearance. Aswell as seeing the appearance, to know the whole truth we need to experience what is behind the appearance aswell. This we can do with our mind's eye which is really the universal mind's eye. When we do this, we not only see one truth of the blade of grass- the appearance- the real illusion, we experience all of it's truths, we experience what some term 'the light' which is really- life-energy."
\/
Zygos;
"Hmmm. True. When we meld with the oneness we understand the bigger picture behind the blade of grass. Smile"
\/
excwan replies;
I just had to put this in again.

excwan;
"It's termed light because like the physical programme light helps our physical programme eyes see, it raises our awareness and we understand more, which we term as seeing, although it's more than that."
\/
Zygos;
"Far easier to see the reflection of things, than to merely sense where they are. Though it also causes a distraction. Next time if you get a moment, instead of looking at the grass close your eyes. Listen to the wind sweeping across the blades. Smell the pugnent grassy smell. Open all your senses to the world around you. And don't merely trust your eyes.
Teaching yourself to either walk backwards, or with your eyes closed can really improve your other senses. And strangely enough soon you will be able to determine where you are by the smell. LOL.
\/
excwan replies;
Yes. I can see where you are with this. I do it too.
I'm a 'General Assistant', in the fresh fruit and veg' department of my local store, and it seems here too, like you.
I just recently went back from a week off on hol's and when I walked into the department, the colours, smells, the taste of the air. It was as if I'd never sensed them before, it was soo goorgeous. I felt in sensory heaven. It does help working with fruit and veg' and I love it there. Sometimes I close my eyes and pin-point a particular fruit or veg' with just the smell or it's taste I can feel in the air on my tongue. Sometimes I do it with my eyes open.
Mmm, lush.


Hmmm...that must be quite nice. Its sometimes amazing how you can walk through a supermarket and work out where you are based on the smell, be it the freon of the freezers, the smell of fruit, or just the smell of meats/fish.

Interesting though how the shutting of one sense can improve others, yet inversely those who have no psionic sense, do they have heighted other senses compared to us psionics....or is it that you have to have a awakened sense, before you can gain the benifits of enhancement via closing it. ....interesting tagent there...

do the mundanes basic primary senses are they enhanced because they don't have any psychic ability. Or would those who bury their head after an awakenment have such ability. Sothing to think on methinks.
Quote:

~
Also, I can see your hint at this, about not merely trusting your eyes, you probably mean this too, I would say- 'aswell as' trusting your eyes.'
I used to visualise and stuff with them closed but now I can do it with them open coz I've learnt to distinguish between my senses, which I'm still doing since there is always new input/output.


Yeah....its like channeling, I used to do it only with my eyes closed; to cut all distractions. My mind/ego would get in the way. Now I do it whenever, its just second nature. But sometimes to enhance ourselves we need to focus, to look within, cut all distractions, meditate, and find what we really want.
Quote:

~
Here I go with a story...
There was a time about six months ago where I was saying to myself/god/ki- 'Thanks for this energy(food) being absorbed into my energy(body), Thanks for this energy, Thanks for the energy being my energy, Thanks for me and this energy being one, Thanks for this energy merging with my energy.'



Makes sense. Thanks for the energy this is me, for entering me.....kinda like that idea of if you go out far enough, go within far enough, you find the truth. No seperation
Quote:

This went on for about a week every time I ate, for a reason I can only describe as an instinct to say these things.


Yeah we all go through weird little processes like this. I think we all at one time or another once realizing all that we have to feel thankful for it. And doing a grace like service seems good. I know for me I often thank what is on my plate for dying so I could eat it.

Quote:

There was an answer I knew I would acheive through saying these things though I didn't know what it was and I knew I had no other reason to say these things other than knowing that I had to.
So, near the end of the week, I was sitting in the restaurant in work after being with lots of fresh fruit and veg' now eating fresh fruit and veg', absorbing energy, saying these things and I said something along the lines of- 'Thank you for energy.'
The next time I said it was in mind and I acheived an understanding of this melding of life that is the mergance of energy that permeates everything, that is everything. I understood it, realised it, knew it, through experience, because it wasn't just an understanding, it was an active understanding, an active realization, it was an experience that gave me insight.

Thats really cool.
Quote:

I was suddenly emerged in what I would term as the 'real-ization' of everything. I actually only just received that word while writing this.
In such a gradual alteration of my perception and sudden appearance of the truth, I became emersed in the most colourful plain white light energy I had ever experienced. I say light because that is as close as I can describe it without going into a plethora of words. Actually, I described this in my last post which I copied into this post- above. (Life-energy)
Every colour and more, beyond the spectrum, in the spectrum. But although I was experiencing this with my eyes open which meant I could see what was happening, my other senses were completely active and I had become totally aware of their input/output, of which there is no real difference. I don't just mean physical senses, these were active aswell, just imagine that you become aware of and begin experiencing the truth of everything being the same energy, that there is no difference between you and the two 'ladies' 'sitting' at the 'table'. Your senses are their senses. 'You' sense... there is no 'you' at this point. 'You' are all there is, litterally. Do you understand that contradiction?
Yes its like the feeling of feeling your body in a chair, and feeling your feet touch the ground, but at the same time feeling not only the earth below you as being one with you but every living and non living thing on it. To feel the energy of that that exists above and below, every single being within the sub, basic and super galaxy around us. To feel every breath, every shed tear, and ever microcosom of the universe. To not know where you begin, and where the astral takes over. To understand every fabric of time, space, reality.

Its an over whelming experience, something a lot like nirvana, I think to have active enlightenment (versus just having point to point enligtenment) one needs to try, to be in this state at all points, and yet at the same time experience life to the fullest. However doing so seems to be a contradiction within itself.
Quote:

Imagine that you occupy the same space as a book accross the room, that you are the space and the book and the room, and everything else. Actually, in 'real-ization'. there is no space, book or room, just an active force, although this active force does include space, a book, a room, if you wish to use them.


You are the beginning and the end, and everything inbetween. You are the man reading the newspaper, the woman doing her lipstick, your the man walking the dog, the dog, and the trees around it. Your the very ground, the very earth. And what seperates you from the two woman across you, at the time you can't perceive except for the fact that perhaps they just don't percieve you as being the same. Perception is the only difference.
Quote:

Some experience, I just relaxed and enjoyed it.

Zygos;
"I had always considered that by absorbing it would be becoming one with it, and letting it purify everything, by turning ourselves into the light, and back into a whole body."
\/
excwan;
Yes. This is with the light-life-energy aswell as physical light. Physical light is a good way of visualising life-energy because it contains all the colours of the universe, all the wavelengths, and that is exactly what life-energy is- everything.
\/
Zygos;
"Perspective. But I do agree."
\/
excwan replies;
True.


Physical light is a good beginning. I prefer to think of that feeling we are describing above.

Zygos
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excwan



Joined: 18 Oct 2005
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 3:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for your reply.

It's good to hear from you.

I've been having a funny time too. Some good stuff happening.

Again, you've said some good things.
I feel we agree on most things now, or at least that we've found a way of communicating our views in forms that we both can understand, which I suppose inevitably leads to agreements of each other's perceptions.

In any case it's good to hear from you.

excwan said;
"It's good to meet someone who can accept not being sure over choosing to believe something without evidence."
\/
Zygos said;
"I guess some could call it having low confidence. I know in numerology that in almost every aspect that I am a 1 (Including my hidden number) , and 1's other than being individuals also suffer from some self confidence issues.
However the way I see it I have been wrong in the past, and I'm sure I will potentially be wrong in the present, and future. So thus without evidence I cannot assume that something is correct, but inversely without evidence I still know some things exist that I have not seen with my own eyes, till such a time I merely try to keep open-minded."
\/
excwan replies;
I'm not quite sure how what you described in your second paragraph can be described as low confidence although in your perception it may be termed as such since you may look upon being unsure about something/s as not having the confidence to form a solid opinion about it thus leading to the assumption or conclusion that it is low confidence. If that is the case then actually I can understand. I also know that this may not be the case, but if it is, and if it applied to me, which I suppose it does, I wouldn't term it as low confidence, if I had to name it, I would call it - sense.


exwan said;
"Some people use visualization for specific goals and it suits their purposes well. Others focus on being connected to the source, being the one, this also suits their purposes well."
\/
Zygos said;
"I guess thats true. For me I use shielding because I belive that without it I am no protected. That I need it, and because of my belief that I need it, well I do. On the other hand there are others out there who do not use shielding, never will, and mostly its becuase they have a belief that they don't need it. So thus either by chance or coinsidence they never do."
\/
excwan replies;
Yes, interesting.
For a while, since I realised I was being influenced by a hereof previously mentioned spirit, and having only just released programmes I had about love and light being something they weren't, I concentrated on sending the said spirit love and light to raise his awareness resulting in, after a struggle, him becoming aware of what he was up to and then becoming aware of his guide who then showed him his way and he left. During this I also concentrated, through visualisation, affirmations, prayers, spells, on shielding/protection, and also filling myself with love and light to raise my awareness and energy. Upon the spirit's departure I spent a while regularly visualising, praying, spelling, affirming protection and shielding against all types of influences- eg; 'Dear God/Universe, Thank you for protecting/shielding me, Amen/So be it.' & visualsing bubble shields.
After a while of doing this during the day and night, one night just before sleep, I said this but it was without words and I had from above my whole eye a tunnel of light (that's a very very basic description) come down fast yet gentle to surround me, a tunnel with and without depth, then a visit from a character in a form I recognised who introduced himself to me with his name followed by the words -Guardian Angel. I asked him to repeat his words which he did and then I asked who he was here for, he said he was here for me. It was one of the most clear experiences I've had and it was pretty cool to be honest. After a few more words between us he said 'That's enough for now.' and he went, and so did the tunnel, then I was aware of being back in my dark bedroom which had for a while seemed full of light.
I lay for a while then jotted the experience down on a page so that I didn't have to think about remembering it, though I haven't forgotten it.
I needed confirmation to ensure that it was true so I spent a week wandering here and there searching for it but then I thought of something we chatted about earlier in this discussion of ours- 'What if I don't have anything I need for a spell? Surely there's a way of doing it without them? There is.' 'What if there is no-one else in the world for me to get confirmation from? Surely there is a way acheiving confirmation without them? There is.' From myself. So I just chilled out and let it be.
After sleeping from a Monday night to a Wednesday early morning- 3am-ish, I got up and wandered the thick fog taking pictures, when done I returned home and started playing with my cd's. I put one in and pressed play, it was a unicorn meditation cd I had given to me over a year ago which I always thought was silly and had never gone past track one, this time on impulse I flicked to track two. The lady's voice immediately mentioned 'The Seven Heavens.' I had a dream two weeks previously about seven rainbows called The Seven Heavens which I hadn't been able to find out anything about. I took this as a hint to listen to and partake in the meditation being played for me. It turned out that the meditations couldn't be done without being aware of my Gaurdian Angel which was one form of confirmation. The meditation was brilliant, did loads of stuff, went places, learnt things, enjoyed it. When it was ended I lay for a while again in contemplation before jotting down the basics of it, which I felt I need to do, while doing so I wrote- '...and it was confirmed to me that "+*!^" is my Guardian Angel..." -then I was going to write- '...because...' and a longish explanation but the pen stopped working, even though it still had ink in it, and hasn't worked since.
I took this as the final confirmation that "+*!^" is who he introduced himself to be.
Since meeting him I haven't felt so protected before in my whole life.
And the cool thing is, now that I have been allocated a Guardian/Protector, I don't have to concern myself with shielding anymore since that is up to my Guardian. Which means I can concentrate on other aspects of my life that need my attention.
Though if I do want to open up I need to tell him, the same for closing down afterwards.
I feel really safe now and just really protected and it's always there now without my effort, which is good for me, and for others with whom I make contact.
That's my story of protection.

Zygos said;
"Interesting though how the shutting of one sense can improve others, yet inversely those who have no psionic sense, do they have heightened other senses compared to us psionics....or is it that you have to have a awakened sense, before you can gain the benifits of enhancement via closing it. ....interesting tagent there...
do the mundanes basic primary senses are they enhanced because they don't have any psychic ability. Or would those who bury their head after an awakenment have such ability. Something to think on methinks."
\/
excwan replies;
The search for one's truth is one's drive for understanding.

excwan said;
"There was a time about six months ago where I was saying to myself/god/ki- 'Thanks for this energy(food) being absorbed into my energy(body), Thanks for this energy, Thanks for the energy being my energy, Thanks for me and this energy being one, Thanks for this energy merging with my energy."
\/
Zygos said;
"Makes sense. Thanks for the energy this is me, for entering me.....kinda like that idea of if you go out far enough, go within far enough, you find the truth. No seperation."
\/
excwan replies;
Yes. No seperation.

excwan said;
"But although I was experiencing this with my eyes open which meant I could see what was happening, my other senses were completely active and I had become totally aware of their input/output, of which there is no real difference. I don't just mean physical senses, these were active aswell, just imagine that you become aware of and begin experiencing the truth of everything being the same energy, that there is no difference between you and the two 'ladies' 'sitting' at the 'table'. Your senses are their senses. 'You' sense... there is no 'you' at this point. 'You' are all there is, litterally. Do you understand that contradiction?"
\/
Zygos said;
"To not know where you begin, and where the astral takes over. To understand every fabric of time, space, reality.
Its an over whelming experience, something a lot like nirvana, I think to have active enlightenment (versus just having point to point enligtenment) one needs to try, to be in this state at all points, and yet at the same time experience life to the fullest. However doing so seems to be a contradiction within itself."
\/
excwan replies;
Nirvana!
The thing with being in this state is that I could've easily drawn myself closer and freaked out the people sitting at the table.
By this I mean that I could've easily 'pulled' the 'table' from 'accross' the 'room' towards 'me' and freaked out the 'ladies' 'sitting' at the 'other' 'table'.
I could've done anything but I just let myself be, which I think was a sensible choice.
If it wasn't for my awareness that it was my perception shifting and not theirs I might've drawn myself closer for a laugh, which lead me to realise that although I was and am All, it may take a bit of practise to be able to live in that state all the time.
I think it's a bit like being protected. Being open is useful, at certain times, but some have gone mad being open all the time, like Mel Gibson in the film, is it; 'What Women Want'? He almost went nuts coz he was hearing everyone's voice and couldn't distinguish between them and his own.
So maybe being in that state is good at particular times and better not at others.
To be honest, it's a lot easier to function in this realm in the state I'm in at the moment, and at other times it would be really useful to be able to enter into any of the mentioned alter-states when required at will, but probably or maybe not all the time.

Zygos said;
"You are the beginning and the end, and everything inbetween. You are the man reading the newspaper, the woman doing her lipstick, your the man walking the dog, the dog, and the trees around it. Your the very ground, the very earth. And what seperates you from the two woman across you, at the time you can't perceive except for the fact that perhaps they just don't percieve you as being the same. Perception is the only difference."
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excwan replies;
You too.
Yes.

Zygos said;
"Physical light is a good beginning. I prefer to think of that feeling we are describing above."
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excwan replies;
What feeling exactly?

Take care.

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 31, 2005 1:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 3:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey mate, been a bit I know. Been only a few week vacation, and for the most part even though I've had access to the ole glorious 56k modem; I've decided to unplug for the most part instead of missing that all so great family time.

Hope ya had a happy holidays (Merry Xmas, Happy Quanza/Cuanza /sp?, Happy Hannukah, May the four elements and directions bless your home on the coldest winter night, don't know what else...didn't realize I was at war with Xmas...nor anti american....hmmm is being anti-american like being the anti-christ...been accused of that as well before. Food for thought.)

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Again, you've said some good things.

Hmmm, as have you. How strange. Smile
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I feel we agree on most things now, or at least that we've found a way of communicating our views in forms that we both can understand, which I suppose inevitably leads to agreements of each other's perceptions.

Yep pretty much. Nice on one hand, probably kinda boring to those that are reading this convo.
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In any case it's good to hear from you.

excwan said;
"It's good to meet someone who can accept not being sure over choosing to believe something without evidence."
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Zygos said;
"I guess some could call it having low confidence. I know in numerology that in almost every aspect that I am a 1 (Including my hidden number) , and 1's other than being individuals also suffer from some self confidence issues.
However the way I see it I have been wrong in the past, and I'm sure I will potentially be wrong in the present, and future. So thus without evidence I cannot assume that something is correct, but inversely without evidence I still know some things exist that I have not seen with my own eyes, till such a time I merely try to keep open-minded."
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excwan replies;
I'm not quite sure how what you described in your second paragraph can be described as low confidence although in your perception it may be termed as such since you may look upon being unsure about something/s as not having the confidence to form a solid opinion about it thus leading to the assumption or conclusion that it is low confidence. If that is the case then actually I can understand. I also know that this may not be the case, but if it is, and if it applied to me, which I suppose it does, I wouldn't term it as low confidence, if I had to name it, I would call it - sense.


Yeah. Perspective mate. I call it low confidence. To not have the personal confidence to stand by your perspective.

I know often even if I should know that I am right, I generally falter, thinking that though very low the other parties opinion may be true. And thus by standing by my most likely correct perspective, that if I give the absolute yes, that its a lie.

Yet I know for the general population if you say "I'm pretty sure, or I'm almost positive thats true" versus "I am right, or You are wrong, I am right" most people consider that you are only guessing, or are not on sure footing.

Though conversely by stating in such a way one could be considered arrogent. And I have a feeling that as a child I may have been outwardly, and called arrogent about direct answers, or worse I do have memories of stating something as absolute, only to realize I was wrong.

exwan said;
"Some people use visualization for specific goals and it suits their purposes well. Others focus on being connected to the source, being the one, this also suits their purposes well."
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Zygos said;
"I guess thats true. For me I use shielding because I belive that without it I am no protected. That I need it, and because of my belief that I need it, well I do. On the other hand there are others out there who do not use shielding, never will, and mostly its becuase they have a belief that they don't need it. So thus either by chance or coinsidence they never do."
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excwan replies;
Yes, interesting.
For a while, since I realised I was being influenced by a hereof previously mentioned spirit, and having only just released programmes I had about love and light being something they weren't, I concentrated on sending the said spirit love and light to raise his awareness resulting in, after a struggle, him becoming aware of what he was up to and then becoming aware of his guide who then showed him his way and he left.

During this I also concentrated, through visualisation, affirmations, prayers, spells, on shielding/protection, and also filling myself with love and light to raise my awareness and energy. Upon the spirit's departure I spent a while regularly visualising, praying, spelling, affirming protection and shielding against all types of influences- eg; 'Dear God/Universe, Thank you for protecting/shielding me, Amen/So be it.' & visualsing bubble shields.

After a while of doing this during the day and night, one night just before sleep, I said this but it was without words and I had from above my whole eye a tunnel of light (that's a very very basic description) come down fast yet gentle to surround me, a tunnel with and without depth, then a visit from a character in a form I recognised who introduced himself to me with his name followed by the words -Guardian Angel.
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Very cool Smile

I asked him to repeat his words which he did and then I asked who he was here for, he said he was here for me. It was one of the most clear experiences I've had and it was pretty cool to be honest. After a few more words between us he said 'That's enough for now.' and he went, and so did the tunnel, then I was aware of being back in my dark bedroom which had for a while seemed full of light.
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Its interesting. Though I haven't experienced that exactly. I have had profound experiences like that. Its interesting because from time to time, people will ask me why, or what do I base by beliefs on. As most of them base it on a "holy book" or a very ancient tradition. And I say pgenerally "Well my beliefs are based on my experiences." Generally can't recall thus experiences or give an example, because often they are so prefound that if spoken to another they either sound like a fish tale, or something very basic, or cryptic.

I lay for a while then jotted the experience down on a page so that I didn't have to think about remembering it, though I haven't forgotten it.
I needed confirmation to ensure that it was true so I spent a week wandering here and there searching for it but then I thought of something we chatted about earlier in this discussion of ours- 'What if I don't have anything I need for a spell? Surely there's a way of doing it without them? There is.' 'What if there is no-one else in the world for me to get confirmation from? Surely there is a way acheiving confirmation without them? There is.' From myself.
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Well in theory you could have asked one of the psionics. Most of us can channel....

If you had left a question in the forum; though I would have recommended nothing based on the experience just a something like "I had this experience and I need it verified". Could have asked me, would have given you the same answer as below. Glad you found it through yourself though, finding it yourself generally is the way to "belive" in the answer generally, and continue your own inner enfoldment.

So I just chilled out and let it be.
After sleeping from a Monday night to a Wednesday early morning- 3am-ish, I got up and wandered the thick fog taking pictures, when done I returned home and started playing with my cd's. I put one in and pressed play, it was a unicorn meditation cd I had given to me over a year ago which I always thought was silly and had never gone past track one, this time on impulse I flicked to track two. The lady's voice immediately mentioned 'The Seven Heavens.' I had a dream two weeks previously about seven rainbows called The Seven Heavens which I hadn't been able to find out anything about. I took this as a hint to listen to and partake in the meditation being played for me. It turned out that the meditations couldn't be done without being aware of my Gaurdian Angel which was one form of confirmation. The meditation was brilliant, did loads of stuff, went places, learnt things, enjoyed it. When it was ended I lay for a while again in contemplation before jotting down the basics of it, which I felt I need to do, while doing so I wrote- '...and it was confirmed to me that "+*!^" is my Guardian Angel..." -then I was going to write- '...because...' and a longish explanation but the pen stopped working, even though it still had ink in it, and hasn't worked since.
I took this as the final confirmation that "+*!^" is who he introduced himself to be.
Since meeting him I haven't felt so protected before in my whole life.
And the cool thing is, now that I have been allocated a Guardian/Protector, I don't have to concern myself with shielding anymore since that is up to my Guardian. Which means I can concentrate on other aspects of my life that need my attention.
Though if I do want to open up I need to tell him, the same for closing down afterwards.
I feel really safe now and just really protected and it's always there now without my effort, which is good for me, and for others with whom I make contact.
That's my story of protection.
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"And thats how I spent my summer vacation"....

Yeah most likely the guardian has always been there you just weren't in need of it yet. Guardians are good, except generally if you expand your offensive and defensive capabilities like I did, the guardian can only cover your arse if the attack is beyond your own abilities to protect yourself. That and they can be beaten, eluded, and tricked. So you will probably want to make a deal with it, that if anyone is doing something for your "highest good" that it let you know and check it with you first. Smile

Zygos said;
"Interesting though how the shutting of one sense can improve others, yet inversely those who have no psionic sense, do they have heightened other senses compared to us psionics....or is it that you have to have a awakened sense, before you can gain the benifits of enhancement via closing it. ....interesting tagent there...
do the mundanes basic primary senses are they enhanced because they don't have any psychic ability. Or would those who bury their head after an awakenment have such ability. Something to think on methinks."
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excwan replies;
The search for one's truth is one's drive for understanding.
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Perhaps. However I don't see the relevence between that and the idea that I was speaking of. Would you mind expanding oh-wise-one?
excwan said;
"There was a time about six months ago where I was saying to myself/god/ki- 'Thanks for this energy(food) being absorbed into my energy(body), Thanks for this energy, Thanks for the energy being my energy, Thanks for me and this energy being one, Thanks for this energy merging with my energy."
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Zygos said;
"Makes sense. Thanks for the energy this is me, for entering me.....kinda like that idea of if you go out far enough, go within far enough, you find the truth. No seperation."
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excwan replies;
Yes. No seperation.

excwan said;
"But although I was experiencing this with my eyes open which meant I could see what was happening, my other senses were completely active and I had become totally aware of their input/output, of which there is no real difference. I don't just mean physical senses, these were active aswell, just imagine that you become aware of and begin experiencing the truth of everything being the same energy, that there is no difference between you and the two 'ladies' 'sitting' at the 'table'. Your senses are their senses. 'You' sense... there is no 'you' at this point. 'You' are all there is, litterally. Do you understand that contradiction?"
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Zygos said;
"To not know where you begin, and where the astral takes over. To understand every fabric of time, space, reality.
Its an over whelming experience, something a lot like nirvana, I think to have active enlightenment (versus just having point to point enligtenment) one needs to try, to be in this state at all points, and yet at the same time experience life to the fullest. However doing so seems to be a contradiction within itself."
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excwan replies;
Nirvana!
The thing with being in this state is that I could've easily drawn myself closer and freaked out the people sitting at the table.
By this I mean that I could've easily 'pulled' the 'table' from 'accross' the 'room' towards 'me' and freaked out the 'ladies' 'sitting' at the 'other' 'table'.
I could've done anything but I just let myself be, which I think was a sensible choice.
If it wasn't for my awareness that it was my perception shifting and not theirs I might've drawn myself closer for a laugh, which lead me to realise that although I was and am All, it may take a bit of practise to be able to live in that state all the time.
I think it's a bit like being protected. Being open is useful, at certain times, but some have gone mad being open all the time, like Mel Gibson in the film, is it; 'What Women Want'? He almost went nuts coz he was hearing everyone's voice and couldn't distinguish between them and his own.
So maybe being in that state is good at particular times and better not at others.
To be honest, it's a lot easier to function in this realm in the state I'm in at the moment, and at other times it would be really useful to be able to enter into any of the mentioned alter-states when required at will, but probably or maybe not all the time.

Zygos said;
"You are the beginning and the end, and everything inbetween. You are the man reading the newspaper, the woman doing her lipstick, you 're the man walking the dog, the dog, and the trees around it. You 're the very ground, the very earth. And what seperates you from the two woman across you, at the time you can't perceive except for the fact that perhaps they just don't percieve you as being the same. Perception is the only difference."
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excwan replies;
You too.
Yes.

Zygos said;
"Physical light is a good beginning. I prefer to think of that feeling we are describing above."
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excwan replies;
What feeling exactly?
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The feeling of no seperation. The feeling that despite the fact that we are at seperate keyboards, or in the case of the readers in front of seperate monitors, in seperate amounts of time, space, and in some cases reality. That there is no seperation in this moment.

A moment can exist forever, or just a nano-second. And not only that but though I'm here, you're there, that we are one. In the same way that you were one with those two ladies.


Take care.

Of course. You as well. And as always may you find what you seek.

Zygos
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2006 12:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Insightful respsonse.

Happy Gregorian New Year to you!

I saw my family this year, it was nice. I had the best Xmas I've had for a long while.
I don't celebrate Xmas any more or less than I do any other time of the day but it was really nice to be with those whom I love and whom I re-found out his year love me too.

Sounds lyk you had a good tym too, I'm glad.

Zygos;
"Yet I know for the general population if you say "I'm pretty sure, or I'm almost positive thats true" versus "I am right, or You are wrong, I am right" most people consider that you are only guessing, or are not on sure footing."
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excwan-
Understandable.
I've found that some people simply can't see how one can be so sure of something or one's-self sometimes coz they are so unsure of themselves.
I've been in the same boat, and I've learnt how to know and be myself for who I am at any given moment instead of trying to figure out mentally
my place and how I'm s'post to behave in given circumstances now or in the future, this I find is why I am so sure of myself, not in a 'I'm right' kind of sense but rather an 'I know who I am now' kind of sense.
So I suppose the only thing I am sure of is my self-confidence and self-knowledge of who I am now and that I know I will always find out new things about myself coz I search for it.
I do pry into what I may be doing in the future but that's not really the truth, the truth is who you are and since I'm not aware of experiencing the 'future' yet I don't really 'know' the future, I don't know myself in that time since I'm not aware of experiencing myself there yet.
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Zygos;
"I have had profound experiences like that. Its interesting because from time to time, people will ask me why, or what do I base by beliefs on. As most of them base it on a "holy book" or a very ancient tradition. And I say pgenerally "Well my beliefs are based on my experiences." Generally can't recall thus experiences or give an example, because often they are so prefound that if spoken to another they either sound like a fish tale, or something very basic, or cryptic."
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excwam-
Like you say and I agree with; My beliefs are based on my experiences.
That's profound, sensible, obvious, true, and just the best statement I've heard for a while.
I'm trying to link that with what I've said in the paragraph above.
I'm not sure if you can see the connection between having the confidence to be yourself and having the conviction to believe your own experiences and the reason for why and how the two link, but maybe it's one of those things which are best described in a profound statement such as;
"My beliefs are based on my experiences."

Zygos;
"Though conversely by stating in such a way one could be considered arrogent. And I have a feeling that as a child I may have been outwardly, and called arrogent about direct answers, or worse I do have memories of stating something as absolute, only to realize I was wrong."
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excwan-
Been there.
Now I try not to state anything as a general truth unless I know it is, and I find this through my experiences, usually I state things as my truth, and sometinmes these change, so sometimes where neccessary I update my statements.
So...
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excwan said;
""But although I was experiencing this with my eyes open which meant I could see what was happening, my other senses were completely active and I had become totally aware of their input/output, of which there is no real difference. I don't just mean physical senses, these were active aswell, just imagine that you become aware of and begin experiencing the truth of everything being the same energy, that there is no difference between you and the two 'ladies' 'sitting' at the 'table'. Your senses are their senses. 'You' sense... there is no 'you' at this point. 'You' are all there is, litterally. Do you understand that contradiction?"
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excwan-
I update the last word to 'complimentary contradiction'.
And...
When I described being connectd to the whole etc, which I was and is true, I have realized something since...
...that even though I was at one with the one energy, there were still definite boundaries, like the room.
Although I was at one, no seperation, there were still seperate entities- the ladies, the tables, the chairs, the walls, the ceiling, the floor.
Although I was feeling their current sensations and feelings, I was still blocked from their private thoughts by some natural protective barrier, which could be broken down with force as it can in this 'normal' sensory place, but what's the point to that? Where's the respect?
When I say respect, which isn't an accurate word for what I mean, I mean, and this is as close as I can get it with words, an understanding of three things; self-expression, freedom and privacy, and an understanding of how they're all the same thing.
I may have said this before but I've achieved a deeper understanding of it so this is why I've been writing this.
Although there is 'the one', there is still 'the many'.

Faith- believing in something or someone.
Belief- thinking something to be true without proof or knowledge.
Knowledge- knowing something to be true, usually through experience or having proof.

Through experience one can gain knowledge.
From gaining knowledge through experience one has personal proof.
From knowing this proof to be true one can believe in it.
From believing in this knowledge one has faith in it.

What if this knowledge is knowledge of one's self, or one's many selves?
Higher self, Middle self, Lower self.

Zygos:
"Well in theory you could have asked one of the psionics. Most of us can channel....
If you had left a question in the forum; though I would have recommended nothing based on the experience just a something like "I had this experience and I need it verified". Could have asked me, would have given you the same answer as below. Glad you found it through yourself though, finding it yourself generally is the way to "belive" in the answer generally, and continue your own inner enfoldment."
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excwan-
In theory and practise I could have.
But I see my life like I see my dreams and I interperate it similarly.
People can and should interperate thier dreams using their own experiences as guidance.
I've always known this and have honestly said so to those who've asked for my opinion on the subject.
One person's experience of a horse can and probally will be different to that of another's, so, who can best understand what a horse means to that person in their dream? That person having the dream obviously.
However, there are some constants which people can share and if someone is drawn to a book written by someone else and they get their answer from there so be it, this is good too.
As long as they feel that's right for them.
You see, it all goes down to one.
With the help of others, to understand the one.

Am I right? I am for me.
Though it may change.
But I know it's right for me now, this millimillimillimillimillimillimillimillimillimillimillimillimillimillimillimillimillimillimillimillimillimillimillimillimillimillimillimillimillimillimillimillimillimillimillimillimillimillimillimillimillimillimillimillimillimillimillimillimillimillimillimillimillimillimillimillimillimillimillimillimillimillimillimillimillimillimillimillimillimillimillimillisecond and that's what matters.

Zygos;
"Yeah most likely the guardian has always been there you just weren't in need of it yet."
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excwan-
I dunno'. I think it's a bit of everything.
I think some have them, some don't, but everyone can gain them upon request where applicable, and some need only become aware of them.
This is probally coming from the realization I'm getting that some people don't have choice, even though it can seem lyk they do and in other cases not so, whereas other's have full choice over what happens to them and who they are.

Zygos;
"Interesting though how the shutting of one sense can improve others, yet inversely those who have no psionic sense, do they have heightened other senses compared to us psionics....or is it that you have to have a awakened sense, before you can gain the benifits of enhancement via closing it. ....interesting tagent there...
do the mundanes basic primary senses are they enhanced because they don't have any psychic ability. Or would those who bury their head after an awakenment have such ability. Something to think on methinks."
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excwan;
The search for one's truth is one's drive for understanding.
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Zygos;
"Perhaps. However I don't see the relevence between that and the idea that I was speaking of. Would you mind expanding oh-wise-one?"
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excwan-
Uummm. I'll hafta get back to you on that one.
I was bit too wise then even for me. Very Happy

Take care.

Of course. You as well. And as always may you find what you seek.

Whatever it is, consider it found. <---(Positive affirmation)

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 12:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Zygos.

You seem to be taking forever to reply these days.

Wossup?

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2006 6:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

excwan, zygos,

this has been a FASCINATING read and my head and soul are still reeling from absorbing all that. The amazing thing is, you have pretty much confirmed (through your experiences and beliefs) just about everything that I have always believed about life/reality and our part in it. I have not been able to prove any of it to myself through experience or otherwise, but I have always KNOWN, if you know what I mean. It's been a pleasure to read this thread.

I wonderf if I could ask you something. When I was growing up (had a very hard childhood and some negative spirit experiences) I acquired a Guardian Angel whom I named Eddie. I was not aware of the fact that he was a Guardian Angel at the time even though I was VERY aware of him in a physical sense. I knew where he was at a given time, I knew what he was doing, I could pinpoint the exact spot he was in the room with me though I never saw him with my own eyes. I believed he was just an "imaginary friend" and took comfort in his presence and love that emanated from him when I wasn't receiving any from my family.

Fastforward about 25-10 years. I was watching "City of Angels" with Nicholas Cage and Meg Ryan. There is a scene where Nic, while invisible, comforts Meg after a traumatic day at the hospital. She lies down on the bed crying and he cradles her giving her comfort. Out of the blue I burst out in tears because I suddenly rembered Eddie doing the exact same thing many, many times in the past. It was then I realized my "imaginary friend" Eddie was really a Guardian Angel.

The sad thing is, when I entered teenage years, I "sent" Eddie away (without going into details let's just say I felt uncomfortable with his constant presence and not realizing what he was) and have not been able to feel him since. I still feel guilty about sending him away. And I still miss him.

I have been told that I do have Guardian Angel/s with me, but I almost never feel them and the rare times when I do think I feel something, they never feel the way Eddie did. My question is, is likely that Eddie is still with me and just doesn't make himself "felt" or did I really send him away and he is on another assignment?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 3:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Selena.

Thank you for your presence.

I'm glad you are finding use from this thread.

Let me begin by saying that from my experiences I now believe that almost everyone has access to a Guardian whether they know so or not.

Some are aware of them from early on in this place, others become aware of them from a later date, others have to request-(politely demand) that they have a Guardian, others may simply not be allowed one as part of their experience in this place.

All the possibilities must be considered, then you must feel your truth and know it, and if you're looking for proof, your experiences are your proof.

I empathise with your past and mine was similar.

I also had someone who I'd talk to and who would teach me unteachables in my dreams which have always been very vivid.

This person however turned out to be an attachment- a negative personality trapped between this plane and that plane by his own doing due to his refusal to believe that he had left his earth vehicle.

As a result he needed an energy source to stay near here and he chose me in my weakened state as a child as I was an easy target.

He didn't really mean to do any harm and he didn't really, it's as simple as, negative people do negative things. It's the same for people in this place.

Thankfully I realized what was happening, only relatively recently compared with when he entered my life, also, it was time to sort it out coz with the help of a few friends who each gave me a piece of my jigsaw at just the right time like with what is happening with you now, I was able to become enlightened about my situation and to deal with it accordingly.

Gratefully, I am now protected properly with the grace and love of Mother God and Father God - God, as I affirmed 'Thank you for protecting me' for a few months after sending the negative personailty lots of love and light which resulted in him becoming enlightened about his current situation, raising his vibrational frequency or level of self-awareness so that he became aware of his guide(s) who showed him his next move. He moved on and this allowed me to focus on my affirmations of protection.

This was when I was, in my experience- allocated, a Guardian Angel.
I was shown an image/symbol which involved an animal, a colour, also a name.
Then further experiences allowed confirmation of my experience. So, I had proof, and instead of believing, I knew- I had a Guardian.

It's always good to request-(politely demand) confirmation.

"Dear God/Universal Energy, thank you for..., Amen/So be it."
This is a request, a polite demand. No pleases or if it's ok with you can I..., just- Dear..., thank you for.., So be it.

I'd like to say that sending him away is nothing to feel guilty about, not at all. Because if any of your spirit family refuse to leave you alone when you need it or request it then they are probally not yours.

Leaving you upon request is a natural form of repect which comes from an understanding of self-expression, freedom and privacy- three things which all guides, guardians, etc should and probally do have.

If sending him away was a struggle and it took a few attempts before he got the message then he may not be yours. If he went straight away then he could be. If however, as teenagers can be, you were hormonal and had loads of bundled up energy then regardless or not of whether he was yours or an imposer then you could have sent him away simple.

The fact remains that you now are curious about who he is and with the right guidance you can find out for yourself who he is in relation to you, this is whether or not he is your Guardian.

After being closed for what seems like a long time it can be easy to forget how to open up again, even to friends and family.

People can try to make themselves heard but you may not be listening.

What would be helpful to remember is that contacting your Guardian is just like talking to any other person, it's all about finding the correct form of communication to be able to communicate with each other.

Communication- the reason for this thread.

What do you know so far?

Write down your experiences from as far back as you can remember as regards Eddie, draw pictures if you wish, anything, this is to formalise it in your mind's eye. All you can remember up to this moment.
All the most vivid bits at least.

Then just look at it and contemplate it.

This means looking at it and not trying to logically figure it out, just sit there, stand or lie, whatever, and just let it be absorbed into your consciousness, your mind will do the rest by itself. All you have to do is meet it have way and your mind/body/soul will finish the job.

Be aware of your inner-signs and outer-signs and how they relate to your question. You will find the answer. The answer will find you.

But don't try so hard, just relax about it.
You don't have to be tense, just aware, just notice things.

Make notes of your experiences if it helps.

By drawing or writing your memories you will be making a telephone call to Eddie. Focusing on those thoughts/feelings/vibrations will attract back to you, if they ever left, those vibrations/feelings you felt with Eddie.
You've already made the first few calls.

Do you see? Communication.
Energy flows where attention goes.

I feel like I've said enough for now.

I hope you find this useful and I wish you all the best.

Feel free to contact me again.

excwan Wink
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Selena



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

excwan,

thank you for your message. Yes, Eddie left immediately upon my request in the past. However, after reading your post and some energy work, I believe I've made contact again last night, just before falling asleep.

I'm still not sure this communication thing works right. All i do is "talk" to him in my mind and the answers often spill out before I even finish a sentence or a question. But of course, the good old ego steps in and starts questioning whether the answers really come from Eddie or are they just things I want to hear. How can you tell?
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excwan



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 10:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Selena;
"I'm still not sure this communication thing works right. All i do is "talk" to him in my mind and the answers often spill out before I even finish a sentence or a question."
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excwan replies;
Is that communication? It seems so to me.
There are more ways to communicate than the ways we know of in this world, and there are lots of more ways of communicating in this world and to others that we are finding out all the time.

Selena;
"But of course, the good old ego steps in and starts questioning whether the answers really come from Eddie or are they just things I want to hear. How can you tell?"
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excwan replies;
How can I tell?
I've learnt to trust my instinct.
Also, I was told by a lady before giving a few readings on a rostrum;
'First is truth, second is doubt.'
She was talking about the information I was recieving.
The question is-
how can you tell?

Answer please; _______________.




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