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Awakening Kundalini with music

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zetrone



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 28, 2011 10:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Today I am drawn to present www.icr canada.org/images/Brahms.pdf

I hope that brings it up for you. If not just google for Brahms and Kundalini.

This article touches on how Brahms composed and how he used a type of meditation to produce his music.

I have to admit, that Brahms has a STYLE that is different than others. It sort of DRAWS me IN. He was suppose to be a student of Beethoven and continued that masters musical ideas.

LISTEN....................sometime to Brahms . I know nothing about music, that way I can absorb all types of music. SOMETHING draws me to specific pieces by Brahms.

MUSIC IS SO POWERFUL....I wonder how conductors and musicans can FINISH certain pieces. I would be completely OVERWHELMED by Beethoven's Egmont. I would not be able to finish the final part .

The musican BECOMES THE MUSIC and DISAPPEARS in some sort of NEXUS with the DIVINE. THat is the FEELING I have with certain pieces of music.

I BECOME the MUSIC and "after" the song is done I am GONE.

David
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 3:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was using a YouTube presentation of Egmont to induce Kundalini. This is one conducted by Herbert von Karajan and is well cinamagraped. You have shots of the musicians from the side so you see everyone of them perferming with a particular instrument in a row.
This is something I have not done in the past very often since it was not AVAILABLE. I could use CDs but the actual visual portions of a performance were more or less superflious to me. I always kept my eyes shut.

I NOTICED SOMETHING NEW. I feel now, being able to SEE the musicans that a new ELEMENT of RICHNESS can be added to Kundalini for me. I SAW that each one of these individual entity musicians was a CREATOR of the piece as surely as Beethoven himself. And they EACH "put forth" their own individual Spiritual ELEMENTS INTO THE MUSICAL PIECE. I PICK these up and it adds ENORMOUSLY to the "K" EFFECT.

It is sort of like THE PLANIUM itself. Or if you will the Zero Point Energy Conciousness Field. The musicians are all there RESIDENT in the PLANIUM and they are RELATE to each other in a SUPER PEACE that is a side benefit of their mutual creation of Egmont with the conductor and composer

Because of our technology this SINGULAR event can be Exprienced again and again by replaying it.

This was not the case years ago.

David
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 11:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Genuine PLEASURE. As David R Hawkins said eventually you take the PLEASURE with you when you leave the bedroom, open your eyes and walk outside; Kundalini PLEASURE. It is "IN" EVERYTHING you look at...everything you experience

And so it was with ROBIN HOOD on Blu ray. Gosh , I had forgot how vibrantly beautiful and saturated the colors are in a TECHNICOLOR processed film. Of course the Blu ray removes any HINT that you are watching a DIGITAL rendered move (no lines, no artifacts, and pin point focus like FILM at the THEATOR).

The story and acting are first rate. I BONDED with parts of the action.

As I said before, to be fULLy Kundalini awakened means YOU EXPERIENCE THE PLEASURE at the HIGHEST LEVELS. Kundalini is for YOU and your Deity, NO ONE ELSE.

Remember WHAT THE BLEEP DO WE KNOW. The essential idea that comes to us from Quantum theory is that we EACH "choose" our own REALITY.....from an infinite number of alternative choices.

When you DO Kundalini YOU ARE IN YOUR CHOICE!! That is YOUR REALITY.....and the LOVE of GOD supports "whatever" Reality you select.

As far as I know ......you and GOD are the only ones there when one is in Kundalini. For me it is like a DANCE with the DEITY.

And, since 1979 in that DANCE with GOD no one has ever tried to "CUT IN".

David
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zetrone



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 05, 2011 12:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RAMBLING THROUGH DRAWER "X": I ran into YouTube presentations by William Cooper in which he talks about Mystery Relgions and maligned the Kundalini Experience. He obviously knew NOTHING about what he was talking.

He said that K was seen as a nexus between a Human being and the Devine.....which it is. His take was that there is no scintific basis and that the person engaging in K puts themselve at risk of being CONTROLLED by others.

Kundalini IS A UNION WITH GOD. There is no risk of being CONTROLED when YOU have a so called SPONTANEOUS Kundalini Awakening. Mr. Cooper was totally lacking in his knowledge about K.

OF COURSE Kundalini can be initiated and awakened by OTHERS in cults and secret societies. But that CERTAINLY was not what happened in my case......and many others.

Another individual on You Tube said that AWARENESS, ALCHEMY and ALTRUISIM were the three attributes that have to be there for Kundalini. I would agree with him.

One of the ways to CREATE a all encomposing AWARENESS in a human is to TORTORE him "to death" or at least let the person THINK that is what is happening. I CERTAINLY do not suggest this but the mind of a man being tortured SEEKS A WAY OUT and in DESPERATION. THis heightens a person's AWARENESS of EVERYTHING after the torture is over......one CANNOT TURN "Hypervigalance" OFF.

The ALCHEMY aspect mentioned relates to Transmutation of one's HUMAN nature .

The ALTRUISM comes "naturally" Once the EGO is eliminated their are no boundaries between yourself and others. Your JOY can be your Neighbor's joy. Your KNOWLEDGE can be your Neighbor's knowledge. And the PRESSURE is on "YOU" to give AS FREELY as YOU RECEIVED.

These are THINGS about K.


David
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 12:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the very informative article you have written out.

In your last post,you mentioned that altruism is a requirement trait for full kundalini activation. 'Your KNOWLEDGE can be your Neighbor's knowledge.'

If that is the case, then anyone who has fully activated their kundalini will want to share the knowledge with others .If that is so,then why has it been kept secret from the public for so long.


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zetrone



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 12:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorcerer wrote:
Thanks for the very informative article you have written out.

In your last post,you mentioned that altruism is a requirement trait for full kundalini activation. 'Your KNOWLEDGE can be your Neighbor's knowledge.' (I guess I should have qualified what I said My KNOWLEDGE can be "obtained" by my neighbor when they do K, not directly from me but from their Kundalini UNION with God)

If that is the case, then anyone who has fully activated their kundalini will want to share the knowledge with others .If that is so,then why has it been kept secret from the public for so long. YOU ASK A VERY GOOD QUESTION. AT THE HIGHER LEVELS OF KUNDALINI AWAKENING I CANNOT SEE HOW A HUMAN WOULD BE WILLING TO "HIDE" IT FROM OTHERS. HOWEVER THE SECRET SOCIETIES THAT HAVE TAUGHT K REQUIRE OATHS "ALONG THE WAY" TO FULL AWAKENING FROM THE PARTICIPANTS.

WHEN THE INDIVIDUAL REACHES THE FULL AWAKENING I WOULD THINK THEY ARE constrained BY THEIR EARLIER OATHS. POSSIBLY SOME MAY SEE THEIR WAY OUT OF THE OATHS....because they were intended to keep the truth from other men......A SENSITIVE MAN/WOMAN MIGHT DISCARD THE OATHS but under pain of death from the society.

ANOTHER THING TO CONSIDER IS THAT KUNDALINI AND "ALL" IT IMPARTS TO A PERSON IS A "TOTALLY FREE GIFT". THERE ARE ABSOLUTELY "NO" REQUIREMENTS AS TO what you do with it.

IT IS "EXTREMELY" IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT GOD (WHATEVER HIGHER POWER) MAKES NO JUDGEMENTS "AT ALL" ON WHAT A PERSON DOES WITH 'whatever" THEY RECEIVE FROM KUNDALINI. IT IS ALMOST AS IF GOD IS BLIND AND DEAF. GOD WILL NOT "SEE" THE "things" THAT TAKE PLACE HERE IN sPACE-tIME AS WE DO.

IT IS "very difficult" TO INVISION SOMEONE WHO "FULLY KUNDALINI AWAKENED" USES WHAT HE/SHE HAS LEARNED AND BEEN GIVEN FOR WHAT humankind would term as EVIL BUT THIS "PATH" IS ALLAWYS OPEN TO THE IN DIVIDUAL. ONE MAY ALSO FIND IT DIFFICULT TO INVISION SOMEONE CHOOSING something "OTHER" THAN GOD IN THEIR LIFE CHOICE, BUT THEY DO. POPULAR BELIEF BEING THAT PERSON GOES TO HELL.

THE SECRET SOCIETIES AND CULTS KNEW WHAT could happen IF THE "wrong"?? PERSON WAS FULLY KUNDALINI AWAKENED.....THAT PERSON MIGHT DISRUPT THE WHOLE WORLD.......THIS IS WHY THERE IS SO MUCH SECRACY AROUND KUNDALINI. AND ACTUALLY THERE IS NO WAY TO PIN POINT THE "wrong" PERSON BEFOREHAND!

tHUS IT IS VERY POSSIBLE AND LIKELY THAT THE MAN FROM AUSTRIA WHO CAUSED WWII WAS ONE OF THESE "wrong" PERSONS.


David

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 1:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Makes a lot of sense of what you are saying.

Well we can't possibly say that all of the people with fully activated kundalini have been restrained with oaths.Maybe they could see the future of what their teachings to specific persons will cause.

These are some of the reasons why many people on the spiritual path are scared of losing their ego mind.The developed non-judgmental attitude can lead to bigger problems in disguise.

[/quote]tHUS IT IS VERY POSSIBLE AND LIKELY THAT THE MAN FROM AUSTRIA WHO CAUSED WWII WAS ONE OF THESE "wrong" PERSONS.
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zetrone



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 2:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can understand your statement about fear of letting go of the EGO. In my case it was simply DESTROYED, there was no letting go. Essentially theer was no choice.

Today I think people come to Kundalini awakening more and more without having to submit to some sort of cult or secret society.

What William Cooper said about the UNIVERSIALITY of certain intiation ACTIONS on humans seems to ring true, as I had NO ONE to explain what was happening to me. I did not need to visuilize the Chakras or the serpent.....none of this was necessary. KUNDALINI AWAKENING just "happened" to me.

Years later I was able to find the NAME for this thing and I began to see how it was intiated in humans by other human actions.

As to the EGO, it is very difficult for most people to even UNDERSTAND what EGO is. Then , because they have a PONDEROUS active EGO they vigorously argue that I MUST HAVE ONE. It is an affront to them that someone may not have the EGO so their EGO tries in every way possible to show that I have one.

Without the EGO I am VERY vunrable.....appear innocent and someone who believes everything said to him. Without the EGO I do not respond with a fight or flight reaction. Someone pulls a gun on me and I simply do not respond UNLESS the DANGER IS REALLY GRAVE. Usually, I have to "take consul with myself" and try an MENTALLY construct what should be there EMOTIONALLY but no longer is. Then when my mind SEES the DANGER I will react .

David
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 9:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess, as a TEACHER I should give some of the body SIGNS that tell you are on the right track to Kundalini awakening:

One thing that people try and obtain is the raising of the Kundalini up the spine and the icy cold tingling effects that go along with this. Most people starting out are said not to be able to get the Kundalini to rise all the way to the crown chakra.

The "tingling" and ALL OVER "goose bumps" tell you are beginning. I never knew about these things in 1979 but the basic tingling and bumps still occured, but in my case they were not associated with the spine alone. I have FULL BODY "tingling"

Another thing that happens to me is TEARS OF JOY AND SADNESS. sometimes this is overwhelming.

Also there are muscular contractions that I would liken to shivering when very cold and to a seisure. Sometimes the person will notice a TINGLING effect in the feet that keeps her awake at night.

As far as the mental and emotional it is like being FLOODED with more ideas and feelings than you can take in. God is a MIGHTY LOVER .

I have a feeling of complete PEACE and complete PLEASURE from K

One MUST NOT BE AFRAID or they will not reach the Kundalini. I have had K experiences using Ormus where I felt I was going to be pulled out of Space-Time (death).

I guess, before a person can awaken the Kundalini they must have acquired PERSONAL COURAGE and are able to deal with their fears.

David
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 1:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the sharing the signs of kundalini uprising.

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As far as the mental and emotional it is like being FLOODED with more ideas and feelings than you can take in.


I experience this a lot during my kundalini practices.Its like different parts of yourself voicing out their opinions to you. Creative energies surround your energy field.

Tai chi is definitely linked to kundalini flow somehow.I watched several TAI CHI movies;all of them seem to move into this 'FLOW ZONE' where kundalini is most active at.


I also experience childhood memories,strong emotions at times making me want to cry which only happens during my kundalini sessions.

[/quote]Another thing that happens to me is TEARS OF JOY AND SADNESS. sometimes this is overwhelming.
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I activated my own kundalini awakening with consistent visualizations and mantra chanting which puzzles me how people get spontaneous kundalini outbursts?
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 2:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your experiences with Kundalini sound very similiar to mine.

I find the childhood memories come back best if I use a piece of music I first heard way back when I WAS A CHILD. VICTORY AT SEA works well for this.

I tend to PUT TOGETHER ideas , art, science TODAY with the BITS and PIECES I obtain from the "WAY BACK" phenomenom of K.

At certain times the INFLUX of THOUGHTS< FEELINGS and "other" becomes overpowering........it is at these times I feel as if I might leave Space-Time.

The Martial Arts and the oriental exercises I think when truely mastered involve a type of right /left brain sync that leads to a Scalar Wave field .

Tom Bearden has stated that certain Martial Artists move FASTER THAN IS HUMANLY POSSIBLE. He cites video of these artists which proves this. Apparently when one syncs the right and left brain then the electromagnetic brainwaves can COMBINE in a DESTRUCTIVE INTERFERANCE pattern (like the slit experiment) where "TRANSLATION" occurs into Scalar Waves from the orginal EM brainwaves.

The resultant Scalar Waves are PRESENT "everywhere at once" in the Planium (ZPECF).

An INTONED prayer automatically is TRANSLATED into Scalar Waves because of the physical nature of the human vocal cords. The cords SLAP against each other and produce PULSES similiar to a rectifing diode with AC current. Scalar Waves and Sound are very similiar. Maybe that is why Mantras are SO POWERFUL????

David
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 3:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Immortal Beloved..........Today I had the Distinct pleasure of engaging Kundalini with this movie about Beethoven.

As I have said before the more fully you are Kundalini Awakened the MORE PLEASURE can be DERIVED from works in Space-Time that have come form the ZPECF.

Apropos of Pleasure is the book AGAINST OURESELVES from the Philosophical press. I highly recommend it.

The SALIENT from this book is that like many factors in the human organism there is a STASIS between PLEASURE and PAIN. It is like you have a PAN SCALES inside you on which the two MUST BE BALANCED. If you add to ONE the scales TIPS OUT OF BALANCE. Your organic nature will BALANCE the TIPED SCALES.

If you LOAD the scales with PLEASURE then your organic nature will FLOOD you with SOME SORT of PAIN to balance out this situation. Example would be a CRASH after a party with drinking and or drugs.

However if YOU DELIBERATELY LOAD WITH PAIN then your organic nature will FLOOD YOU WITH SOME SORT OF PLEASURE. I guess if you sleep on a bed of nails this sort of thing could happen. lol.

KUNDALINI is ultimately the HIGHEST form of PLEASURE. I have yet to figure out if there is any relation between it and Garand's book????

I know that in order to awaken Kundalini one needs to PASS THROUGH some sort of potentially VERY PAINFUL EXPERIENCE.

Come to think of it KUNDALINI is very much like Tom Bearden's "energy from the vacuum" DIPOLE. When and if you establish a DIPOLARITY here in Space-Time and DO NOT DESTROY IT .........free energy from the vacuum will continue to flow into Space-time INDEFINTELY. THE MAIN THING is to produce that DIPOLE to keep the energy streaming in from the ZPECF from seeking out its OPPOSITE particle and annialating itself BACK TO THE ZPECF.

In the human organism the HIGHEST FORM of DIPOLARITY would be between the two identical BRAINS we have , right and left hemispheres. When one can synchronize these PERFECTLY then a CONNECTION to the ZPECF is established.

I would think this sort of PERFECT synchronization can take 40 years in Tibet to get right. lol.

David
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 17, 2011 2:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is not necessary, but I pour my soul out here and hope that some one benifits , or at least reads it????


Well I met with a friend Patrica T. who is a Quantum Energy Healer. Difficult to DEFINE. We discussed Kundalini. She agreed with me completely that the SECRET was the SILENCE BETWEEN THE MUSICAL NOTES. She said that is why so many people never reach awakening because they complicate it unnecessarily.

It is simple, Let the music flow over you. LET EACH NOTE LEAVE as it's TIME ends. PUT YOUR ENERGY INTO "EMPTINESS" the silent PULSE between the notes. The MUSIC will carry you into the ZPECF where we are all ONE. You will be in HEAVEN.

We each have a brain (a meat computer) We also each have a MIND. The MIND is resident in the ZPECF and allows us to think at QUANTUM levels and speeds. This is why a pianist will play notes FASTER THAN THE NERVE IMPULSES CAN REACH HER BRAIN. THERE IS NO Speed Limit when it comes to Scalar Waves and that is what we use to access our MIND in the ZPECF.

WE ARE ALL ONE in the Planium of the ZPECF. I watched and listened to Herbert von Karajan Egmont again. I realized the SINGULAR PLEASURE of TAKING the "EXTACY" of every musician I saw playing and the conductor plus Beethoven ALL IN ONE KUNDALINI . It was v ery much akin to the CROWDEDNESS (lol) that must exist in the ZPECF where ALL OF US ARE ONE and the HIGHEST GOOD is ALL.

David
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 5:27 pm    Post subject: The Beatles Reply with quote

I wanted to touch on this rock group and the Ed Sullivan show. When the Beatles played Ed Sullivan there were numerous CUT IN CLIPS of the young women in the audience that were broadcast.

At that time many Ministers of the Religions WERE VERY CONCERNED with the the reaction of these young women to the Beatle's music. I would think at that time these Church leaders had NO CLUE as to what was happening with the MUSIC.

The young women were experiencing KUNDALINI and it was definitely not from the Devil or a form of Sexual deviation.

WATCH THESE OLD CLIPS .......and see for yourself FIRSTHAND "K" induced by MUSIC.

David
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 8:31 pm    Post subject: The broader your education the richer the Kundalini Reply with quote

Many Artforms, especially those done in the last century contain subject matter designed to Attract as many CUSTOMERS as possible.

I would say that in movies today that is most evident. The majority of the population is not at a postgraduate level. Most of the MEAT of the production is therefore diluted down to their level .

For those who are SENSITIVE and WELL EDUCATED there is a whole gamat of MATERIAL in a movie to be ENJOYED. The lower MEAT is also seen and enjoyed by these people.

The broader your educational background the more OVERWHELMINGLY PLEASURABLE these Artforms will be to you IF YOU MAKE THE EFFORT to see EVERYTHING you can in the movie.

One does not just sit back like a couchpotatoe and watch the movie through chomping on popcorn and talking to your wife.

David
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