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Why Don't I Fit Within My Zodiac Sign?

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2005 6:08 pm    Post subject: Why Don't I Fit Within My Zodiac Sign? Reply with quote

Why Don't I Fit Within My Zodiac Sign?

At a very young age, I was fascinated by astrology. My father, a complete skeptic, thought it was hogwash. He said that the daily forecasts are all written so vaguely that they could apply to anyone. He also claimed the descriptions of the various zodiac signs were so general that anyone in a blind study could pick up any of the descriptions and see themselves in it. I thought my dad was a brilliant man, so I tried out his theory and found him to be completely wrong. I would open the books that describe what various zodiac signs behave like and would randomly start reading to find some piece of myself in those descriptions… very few matched me at all. However, I did note that I did not perfectly match every single thing about my own sign. Why is that? Why is it that none of us perfectly match our birth sign?

The reason is that the basic sun sign only tells one piece of who we are. There is a moon sign, a Mars sign, a Venus sign, etc. They each have a different purpose and cover different pieces of our potential personality profile. To use an analogy, think of each planet as a different aspect of the human psyche. There are the emotions, the drives, the loves, the spirituality, the communications, the intellect, etc. Also, look at each zodiac sign as if it’s a different culture. If I tell you that I met a woman from Brazil today, you have an immediate idea of what kind of person she is. Is every single woman from Brazil exactly the same? Of course not, but we can create a general idea in our minds as to what she is probably like. Now if I told you that this woman was born and raised in Brazil, looked Scandinavian, had the temper of an Irish woman, the religious beliefs of a Jewish woman, falls in love like a French woman, and has the independent streak of an American, you would have an even better idea of what type of woman I had just met.

This is similar to what happens when an astrologer pulls your chart and tells you that you have your moon in Virgo and your Mars in Aquarius. If one astrologer is talking to another and says, “Yeah, I pulled a chart today on a guy who had his Moon in Aries, Mars in Leo, and his Sun in Scorpio opposing his Saturn in Taurus,” the other astrologer is going to immediately get a picture of the fellow just the same as you were able to picture the woman described using comparisons to various cultures.

In the same way that someone can be born in an area that geographically is on the border between two cultures, the same is true for astrology. Someone who was born and raised in America but always lived just near the Canadian border is likely to pick up on and feel at home with some of the Canadian philosophies and belief systems. Someone who grew up near the Mexican border will most likely have been influenced by their culture too. This happens when you have someone born on the cusp between two signs. They may technically be Leo, but show a lot of behaviors of a Virgo too.

When scientists try to prove or disprove astrology as an accurate way to determine a person’s psychological makeup, they are usually taking it from the approach that all Capricorn’s are workaholics and depressed, all Scorpio’s are revengeful and sex addicts, all Virgo’s are anal about organizing and health conscious, etc. That’s about as accurate as saying that all Irish are drunks, all German’s are Nazi’s, and all Japanese are suicidal over bad grades and failed businesses. The only way that science is going to be able to pull accurate statistics is if they start looking at the complexity of the pieces as a whole. Run studies to see if people who have a heavy Aries and/or Mars influence throughout their charts are more likely to be aggressive. But don’t assume that every single person born during the season of Aries is necessarily aggressive.

As an example of my findings within my own family, my father is a Leo, my stepmother was a Sagittarius. They had a very fiery volatile relationship. Their son is a Leo. He fit in well with the two of them. They are all three fire signs. My sister is a Pisces, a water sign and I am a Capricorn, an earth sign. We never did fit in with the three of them. When I read the profiles of our sun signs, I could see the basics of my family dynamics unfolding. It was only natural that when we were really young, my sister crumbled into a puddle of tears every time things got chaotic and ugly, and that I would protect her and shield her from their fire that so deeply hurt her.

While reading the descriptions of other zodiac signs, I found large pieces of myself in the descriptions of Aquarius and Libra. I wasn’t nearly conservative enough to be a full-blooded Capricorn. I like artistic, seductive, and colorful clothing, and everyone knows I’m way too eccentric to ever fit in with the status quo like a real Capricorn. It wasn’t until years later when I learned how to pull a chart and found out that I have a heavy influence of planets and aspects in Libra and Aquarius. The parts of me that didn’t fit the Capricorn description are found in those two signs. If scientists were looking for me to be completely Capricorn, then they would have to conclude that astrology does not work. However, if they look at me as a Capricorn who acts and feels like a Libra and who loves and fights like an Aquarius… ah then they would see that it works rather nicely after all.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 29, 2005 11:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh yes! Even when we do match our signs' profile fairly closely
getting an entire chart based on ones actual birthtime will usualy give you and much more fully realized picture of your astrological personality.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 11:50 pm    Post subject: Progressions Reply with quote

I am a Sag and my father is a Leo. However, there is SO much more to astrology than sun sign! Plus, many astrologers follow progressions. You are either a progressed Aquarius or Pisces, depending on the year you were born, as a Cap.

Finally, some say I AM MORE Capricorn than some Capricorns since my Saturn is in Capricorn, it's ruler. So yes, the 'newspaper' dimension of astrology is entirely limiting and likely considered at best entertainment.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 9:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

moonstone, you know of any good astrology books you would recommend?
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2006 1:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Perhaps you have a rising influence that applies to you so strongly it seems as though your sun sign shouldn't be yours. I seem to pick up on some of the traits my scorpio father has. Maybe it's one of these?
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 2:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote


there are many signs, and to get an accurate reading you would need your exact birth date, time, and location. For instance, it may be that your moon sign or ascendant sign is more powerful so it overrules your sun sign (which is very vague).

Also Vedic Astrology may help uncover events where as Western will explain the psychology of things.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 2:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay, this is something i actually know about. I am an Aquarius (very much so Wink ) but my moon is in leo (polar opposite) and my ascendant in Taurus. the taurus makes me a very cautious person, more so than an Aquarian usually is. i also heard that moon signs are what we act like as children. my sister has a moon in aquarius, and as she is still a kid, she's very rebellious and tries to avoid following the crowd. i was a leo moon, and as a child i was more aggressive than i am now. you could rent a book from the library (Only Astrology Book You'll Ever Need); it comes with a computer disk thing that you can install into your computer to calculate your birthday. then use the book to interpret it. very good astrology book, almost fully lives up to its name. (i also suggest Born on a Rotten Day for a humorous look at the worst of the signs)
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 5:16 am    Post subject: Astrology Book Suggestion Reply with quote

Several years ago I was in a department store and found this book in the sale bin for just 1.00, but it turned out to be one of the best astrology books I've ever read: Spiritual Astrology by Jan Spiller and Karen McCoy. It covers all the planets in all the signs, plus an amazing section on pre-natal eclipses that continues to amaze me with each chart I do. I'd really recommend it!

A funny thing about that book - the night I bought it, I found it so facinating that I decided to go back and get another as a gift for a friend, but the sale table was gone. When I asked the clerk about the book, she checked and said that they'd never carried it!

Whatever dimension my copy came from, I love this book. Smile
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