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giraffemichele



Joined: 21 Aug 2006
Posts: 16

PostPosted: Fri Aug 25, 2006 7:19 pm    Post subject: Acne Reply with quote

Hello, I am the one billionth person to ask about acne! It's funny that in modern times such a simple ailment still troubles us.

I have tried Gorse flower essence (to instill hope when there is no hope left), Dong Quai (to balance hormones), exercising regularly and eating a healthy diet, full of root vegetables, other veggies and fruits, plus no meat, olive oil, etc. . . I take all-natural vitamin supplements . . . I wash my pillow cases!

And for the energy healing side, I do energy healing on myself every day for a variety of things . . .physical, spiritual, mental, emotional . . .

The point is out of all the things I've tried nothing has helped remotely. I recently had an Akashic Records reading in which it was recommended I drink more water and eat more root veggies. If I added more of either I'd float away and grow some roots myself!!!

Do any of you have suggestions?

Thank you so very much! Smile
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tigergrl529



Joined: 20 Sep 2006
Posts: 6
Location: Lafayette, Louisiana

PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 3:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am sending this reply to you first and then I am going to repost this as a new thread.

I am 23 yrs old. I've unfortunately never had perfect skin. But in June of 2004 it got really bad. It continued to get worse. Now I didn't have the horrible horrible acne that you see in pics at some dermatologists office but mine was getting to the point where there was no way I could hide. I have tried pretty much everything besides accutane. That was going to be my next step, but I've been trying to be a lot more health conscious lately and I knew in my heart that there had to be some way to take care of this naturally. Well after spending a while on the internet, I found it. It's called Pantothenic Acid (B-5). I swear to you once i started taking it, within 4-5 days my skin was 90% clear. I can't even believe it now. This is the deal. You have to take a lot. Go to GNC or a health store and pick up as big a bottle as you can find. try to get them in at least 500mg pills. Basically you have to take 10 grams a day (maybe a little less depending on how your skin reacts). Start the first few days gradually. I did 4 g's the 1st day, 6 grams the second, 8 the 3rd , etc...until i got to 10 grams. Two 500mg pills= 1 gram. So yeah 10 g's is 20 pills a day. But i promise if you see results it's worth it. If it doesn't work right away keep with it for at least a month. I'm sure everyone's body is different so maybe it will take you a while. My skin is still not 100% perfect. But 2 or 3 bumbs is way better than 15-20 little mountains! I read to keep the treatment going for at least 3 months then see what happens when u get off of it. Take a maintenance dose later if needed. Make sure that you take a B-Complex supplement as well. Taking a lot of b5 can rob u of your other b's that u need. SO i take that, a multi vitamin, omega 3 complex, and Zinc. Anyway, I hope this helps you b/c I know i wish i had known this 2 yrs ago!
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Derikku



Joined: 20 Sep 2006
Posts: 10

PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 4:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi there,

Despite what they may tell you, overdosing on B5 has its side effects even though it is water soluble. However they do work for some people.

Instead of supressing the symptom, how about trying to find out the root cause of your acne? Have you looked into allergies (wheat especially)? How many bowel movements do you have per day? How has your diet been, not only now, but since the day you were born?

Metaphysically speaking, acne's underlying cause is said to be not accepting or disliking of self. Since we're on a metaphysical related forum I might as well throw that in.

Acne, as with all other dis-ease, comes down to 2 main problems: toxic blood and obstructed flow. The toxins in your body is unable to exit through the bowels, therefore the body in its wisdom dispels them through the skin, the largest organ in the body. Obstructed flow comes in the form of constipation, stagnant lymph flow, chakra/energy blockages etc. The most common would be constipation (which is currently affecting 80% of the American population). Even if you have 1-3 bowel movements per day as a normal unconstipated person does, does not neccessarily mean that you are unconstipated. Dr John Christopher, one of the most famous herbalists in the world, even went as far as to say that acne is impossible in an unconstipated body.

Other common cause of acne would be candida overgrowth, and gallstones in the liver (which causes bad toxic blood). Have you heard of liver flushing? Liver flushing can be said to be equivalent to invoking the 72 demons of Goetia simultaneously; it is THE MOST powerful cleanse you can do for your body.

In any case, if you may allow us to pinpoint the exact causal factor of your problem, do answer all the questions above which I have presented to you.

Warmly,
Derikku
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giraffemichele



Joined: 21 Aug 2006
Posts: 16

PostPosted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 2:02 pm    Post subject: thank you Reply with quote

Thank you so much to both of you for your responses. I agree that I would feel funny about taking so much vitamin b; I would be worried that it would be too much for my system. I greatly appreciate your ideas though and am glad to hear that it has worked for you. Below I will respond to Derikku's questions . .. and thank you for offering to help. Look for the sentences that begin with these: ~~~

Derikku wrote:
Hi there,

Despite what they may tell you, overdosing on B5 has its side effects even though it is water soluble. However they do work for some people.

Instead of supressing the symptom, how about trying to find out the root cause of your acne? Have you looked into allergies (wheat especially)?

~~~ Yes, this has been my objective, to determine the root cause. I am not interested in a band-aid solution, I want to right whatever is imbalanced in my body as the cure.

~~~ To the best of my knowledge, I am only allergic to dogs, no foods. I have had several suggestions about wheat allergies, but I only eat whole grain rye, no direct wheat products. So I don't know if it could be that.

How many bowel movements do you have per day? How has your diet been, not only now, but since the day you were born?

~~~ Between two and three a day, and they are loose (as is recommended) instead of hard. I have never suffered with troubles around constipation and I eat a lot of fiber -- vegetarian diet, lots of vegetables, lots of water, green tea. As a child I did eat meat, but always had a lot of vegetables. However I was raised on white bread instead of whole grain. In the last 11+ years I have eaten only whole grains and vegetables, protein coming from tempeh, soy, etc., and I do not drink alcohol. The acne is recent (4 months now) and severe. I always suspected it was related to hormone problems, i.e. the acne flares up before my menstrual cycle begins each month. It is only in the past 4 months that the acne has been bad during all points within my cycle, or in other words, constantly.

Metaphysically speaking, acne's underlying cause is said to be not accepting or disliking of self. Since we're on a metaphysical related forum I might as well throw that in.

~~~ On this note I did have an idea . . . I had been going through a series of attempts at dating, and there was no heartache with any of the men I was dating; I just wasn't into it. I decided to lay off on trying for a while and spend time enjoying solitude instead of looking for a lover, for a while. It was around that time that the acne started . .. in considering homeopathic ideas behind symptoms, sometimes, they would say, emotional blocks cause symptoms, and I had an idea that "blocking out men" (even though it was never a severe idea on my part), might have resulted in "Keep them at bay by being unattractive to them" -- do you see my idea? What do you think of that? Because otherwise, your other ideas, of not being accepting of myself, or not liking myself -- I am a happy and fulfilled person; I practice meditation and feel at peace, am neither depressed nor anxious. I underwent psychotherapy years ago to tackle such issues and had felt freed from them ever since. So my general countenance is peaceful. that's what's so curious.

Acne, as with all other dis-ease, comes down to 2 main problems: toxic blood and obstructed flow. The toxins in your body is unable to exit through the bowels, therefore the body in its wisdom dispels them through the skin, the largest organ in the body. Obstructed flow comes in the form of constipation, stagnant lymph flow, chakra/energy blockages etc. The most common would be constipation (which is currently affecting 80% of the American population). Even if you have 1-3 bowel movements per day as a normal unconstipated person does, does not neccessarily mean that you are unconstipated. Dr John Christopher, one of the most famous herbalists in the world, even went as far as to say that acne is impossible in an unconstipated body.

~~~This is curious. How could one be constipated with an adequate number of bowel movements?

Other common cause of acne would be candida overgrowth, and gallstones in the liver (which causes bad toxic blood). Have you heard of liver flushing? Liver flushing can be said to be equivalent to invoking the 72 demons of Goetia simultaneously; it is THE MOST powerful cleanse you can do for your body.

~~~should I purchase a liver cleanse, do you think? This lends credibility to my hormonal suspicion; I had read that the liver processes hormones, or metabolizes hormones, and large or cystic acne could indicate that the liver is 'improperly' processing testosterone; that there is an imbalance of hormones in the body and too much testosterone.

In any case, if you may allow us to pinpoint the exact causal factor of your problem, do answer all the questions above which I have presented to you.

~~~ Thank you for your help. It is worth noting that I just underwent my second acupuncture session yesterday and, in addition to weekly acupuncture treatments, I am also taking Chinese herbs for this condition . . .they seem to be helping so far. The acupuncturist saw a difference too and commented that my skin was looking less red. But i'm still curious about your take on all of this; you seem quite knowledgeable about these things.

Thanks!

Warmly,
Derikku
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Derikku



Joined: 20 Sep 2006
Posts: 10

PostPosted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 7:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi giraffemichele,

Your situation does seem to be a case of unbalanced hormones. It is great that you are a vegetarian, so am I. Cool In any case, I think we both can agree that acne is a symptom and there surely is something wrong that you're doing which is making your body cry out for help. I feel that you might be taking too much soy and other estrogen containing foods. Also I don't know whether you consume dairy but if you do you should stop.

Your digestive system sounds great. I wrote that several bowel movements a day does not neccessarily mean being unconstipated, because I have seen cases of people eating food that only exits the body a few days later, or the common cases of fecal matter lodged in the walls of the intestines. And these can be confirmed by the hard and stinky stools that they have, so I am very sure that you aren't constipated because your stools are soft which is excellent.

You talked about blocking out men. You know today I just read an article that a person can't fall in love unless they fall in love with themselves first. I think that is something to think about because it could mean that you might unconsciously not be loving yourself, even though my intuition tells me otherwise. Wink You give me an impression of a very wholesome person.

Buying a liver cleansing kit may help improve the function of the liver. However what I was talking about is flushing out whatever gallstones you may have lodged in the bile ducts of your liver. This is a very powerful cleanse, and I strongly believe that it will clear up your acne. Do a search on liver flushing for more information, or go to www.ener-chi.com for an expert on liver flushing.

Along with blood/liver cleansing herbs like dandelion, milk thistle, burdock root, sarsapilla, pine needle etc will help a lot. That acupuncture helps with your condition indicates blocked chi flow. Look into buying a rebounder to get your lymph fluids moving. They become stagnant without exercise.

Oh and I forgot to ask do you eat your food raw or cooked? Please do not cook with polyunsaturated oils, not even olive oil. Stick with virgin coconut oil, organic butter or ghee. There are many reasons for this and if you're not sure why then do your research on the net, there are a lot of information lying around.

I hope that you be well. Very Happy

Peace to you.
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giraffemichele



Joined: 21 Aug 2006
Posts: 16

PostPosted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 12:48 pm    Post subject: Derikku Reply with quote

Derikku,

thank you again, so much, for your time and effort with my problem. See the ~~ below.

Derikku wrote:
Hi giraffemichele,

Your situation does seem to be a case of unbalanced hormones. It is great that you are a vegetarian, so am I. Cool In any case, I think we both can agree that acne is a symptom and there surely is something wrong that you're doing which is making your body cry out for help. I feel that you might be taking too much soy and other estrogen containing foods. Also I don't know whether you consume dairy but if you do you should stop.

~~ I barely eat dairy, a little cheese here and there . .. I'm sad to have to reduce soy! I use soy in my coffee and it is also in the tempeh I eat. I have heard this about soy . . . I have not wanted to believe it! But I'm curious too, because if I have too much testosterone, isn't it good to take in estrogenic foods? Hmm . .. Maybe when you have too much of one thing it's not good to balance it with too much of the other . .. maybe instead you find a way to reduce the first one (the testosterone), huh.

Your digestive system sounds great. I wrote that several bowel movements a day does not neccessarily mean being unconstipated, because I have seen cases of people eating food that only exits the body a few days later, or the common cases of fecal matter lodged in the walls of the intestines. And these can be confirmed by the hard and stinky stools that they have, so I am very sure that you aren't constipated because your stools are soft which is excellent.

~~ Yes, I never or rarely have digestive troubles.

You talked about blocking out men. You know today I just read an article that a person can't fall in love unless they fall in love with themselves first. I think that is something to think about because it could mean that you might unconsciously not be loving yourself, even though my intuition tells me otherwise. Wink You give me an impression of a very wholesome person.

~~ Thank you, and your impression is correct. Yes, unfortunately there is no 'unhealthy' component to my attitude towards men; I have entered into a wilfull period of solitude for the joy . . . I say 'unfortunately' because if there was something wrong there I could do work around it! In other words I would have landed upon a solution! : )

Buying a liver cleansing kit may help improve the function of the liver. However what I was talking about is flushing out whatever gallstones you may have lodged in the bile ducts of your liver. This is a very powerful cleanse, and I strongly believe that it will clear up your acne. Do a search on liver flushing for more information, or go to www.ener-chi.com for an expert on liver flushing.

~~ I may do this. It sounds good. Do you think it would interfere with the acupuncture? I am receiving the treatment once per week, and as well, taking Chinese herbs (a hideous tasting tea boiled down from a dense mixture of things pertinent to my symptoms, which also include arthritis and allergies to dogs).

Along with blood/liver cleansing herbs like dandelion, milk thistle, burdock root, sarsapilla, pine needle etc will help a lot. That acupuncture helps with your condition indicates blocked chi flow. Look into buying a rebounder to get your lymph fluids moving. They become stagnant without exercise.

~~ Interesting. Incidentally, the acupuncture (after the 2nd week) has helped my skin so much I can't believe it! So it must be the Qi, huh?

Oh and I forgot to ask do you eat your food raw or cooked? Please do not cook with polyunsaturated oils, not even olive oil. Stick with virgin coconut oil, organic butter or ghee. There are many reasons for this and if you're not sure why then do your research on the net, there are a lot of information lying around.

~~ I cook my foods, and I didn't know you couldn't use olive oil. I love the stuff and always thought it was so healthy . .. guess I better try one of the things you suggested.

~~ Thank you for all your help, Derikku! Very Happy

I hope that you be well. Very Happy

Peace to you.
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Derikku



Joined: 20 Sep 2006
Posts: 10

PostPosted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi giraffemichele,

No problem. Cool

I have some information about soy from a book and I'm going to copy it here:

Quote:
In soy products, because of the necessity of achieving a balance between the amount of heat necessary to destroy the enzyme inhibitors and that which may result in damage to the nutritional properties of soy, most commercially available edible-grade soybean products retain 5% to 20% of the enzyme inhibitor activity (for trypsin) originally present in the raw soybeans from which they were prepared (we're talking about 1% already being quite harmful here). This means that soy products have a toxic effect on the body, and should not be consumed on a regular basis, if at all.

Given the fact that soybeans are grown on farms that use toxic pesticides and herbicides, and many are from genetically engineered plants, it doesn't surprise me to find more and more evidence suggesting soy to be a major health hazard. With a few exceptions, such as miso and other carefully fermented soy products, soy is not suitable for regular consumption because of increased risks of cancer, indigestion, thyroid problems, and other disorders, in addition to being a common food allergen. Numerous studies have found that soy products may:

+ Increase the risk of breast cancer in women, brain damage in both men and women, and abnormalities in infants
+ Contribute to thyroid disorders, especially in women
+ Promote kidney stones
+ Weaken the immune system
+ Cause severe, potentially fatal food allergies
+ Soy products also contain:
+ Phytoestrogens (isoflavones) genistein and daidzein, which mimic and sometimes block the hormone estrogen
+ Phytates, which block the body's uptake of minerals
+ Enzyme Inhibitors, which hinder protein digestion
+ Haemaggluttin, which causes red blood cells to clump together and inhibits oxygen take-up and growth
+ Trypsin inhibitors that cause pancreatic enlargement and eventually cancer;
+ Hemagglutinin, which is a clot-promoting substance that causes red blood cells to clump together;
+ Phytic acids, which reduce absorption of many vitamins and minerals.


You do not have to believe in everything that you read, including my views. Do your own research! I have found that the most genuine information are almost always found in forums like this one than in articles. A great alternative health community is www.curezone.com.

I am positive that liver flushing will not interfere with accupuncture. Go to the website above. A lot of people there are experienced with liver flushing.

I was deciding on my first post in this thread if I should write about this, but now that you have mentioned about being afflicted with arthritis I feel now that it is important to ask you if, by any chance, do you think that your body may have been exposed to any heavy metals? Eg mercury in dental fillings / vaccinations, aluminium in commercial deodorants, lead in environment / chemicals / soaps (what soaps do you use?).

The universe has presented a great opportunity for you to take charge of your health. Many people are not lucky enough have symptoms, or simply fail to take note of them, then one day they get diagnosed with cancer out of the blue and by then it may be too late because they get scared and jump right into chemotherapy without second thoughts on the doctor's orders. So it is important that you equip yourself with knowledge on health early, so that you may make informed decisions when the need arises. These days most patients simply follow everything that the medical industry says and it's really crazy seeing as how the goal of the medical industry isn't really to look out for your health!

I wish you well on your journey to good health. Cool

Derikku
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giraffemichele



Joined: 21 Aug 2006
Posts: 16

PostPosted: Fri Sep 22, 2006 4:59 pm    Post subject: Hello again, and thank you! Reply with quote

Hello again, and thank you for your continued efforts with this,

Thank you for the ideas about soy, and I will do some research. Also, I will look into a good liver cleanse. That had always seemed to be a part of the trouble based on my reading of its activity in metabolizing hormones; I will certainly benefit and it's good that it won't interfere with the acupuncture.

you asked:
do you think that your body may have been exposed to any heavy metals? Eg mercury in dental fillings / vaccinations, aluminium in commercial deodorants, lead in environment / chemicals / soaps (what soaps do you use?).

~~~ It's certainly possible. The women on my mom's side of the family all have arthritis quite severely, and mine is very minimal in comparison -- my grandma's fingers were severely disfigured by hers. But mine is just an ache and I've been using glucasamine chondroitin to great relief. In terms of heavy metals, I live in a major city and could be exposed to things every day; who knows? I have no fillings but all my vaccinations (Hep B, measles-mumps-ruboella, tetanus, etc.). I use only natural/plant-based soaps, and only Tom's of Maine deoderant -- though I used to use anti-perspirant before I found out about how toxic aluminum can be.

The universe has presented a great opportunity for you to take charge of your health. Many people are not lucky enough have symptoms, or simply fail to take note of them, then one day they get diagnosed with cancer out of the blue and by then it may be too late because they get scared and jump right into chemotherapy without second thoughts on the doctor's orders. So it is important that you equip yourself with knowledge on health early, so that you may make informed decisions when the need arises. These days most patients simply follow everything that the medical industry says and it's really crazy seeing as how the goal of the medical industry isn't really to look out for your health!

~~~ Thank you and I agree. Best to you too! : )

I wish you well on your journey to good health. Cool

Derikku[/quote]
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Drusilla



Joined: 12 Feb 2005
Posts: 16

PostPosted: Sun Oct 08, 2006 8:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you tried yoga? I never had really terrible skin but the few breakouts I used to get pretty much disappeared when I started doing yoga. Increases blood flow, relaxes you, stuff like that. Oooh and acupressure. *runs down to bedroom to get book* Ok I'll just transcribe the acne entry in my Natural Healing book.


Acupressure can improve the appearance of your skin, says Michael Reed Gach, Ph.D., director of the Acupressure Institute in Berkeley, California, and author of Acupressure's Potent Points. According to Chinese medicine, the stomach meridian is one of several energy pathways that govern skin function. Press both St 2 points, which are situated one finger-width below the lower ridge of each eye socket, in line with the center of the iris and in an indentation of the cheek, says Dr. Gach. Hold the points for one minute. Dr. Gach says to do this three times a day for clearer, more radiant skin.


So yeah I do that too (mostly when I'm like doing an inverted yoga pose and have nothing better to do with my hands hee!) and it seems to be helping a bit too. How much water do you drink a day? I know you hear it all the time everywhere but it really DOES help a lot of stuff. I drink between 10 and...oh like 14 glasses a day. More if like I'm having a really bad dry eye day, or I'm working out really hard. Helps my skin, my eyes, and my allergies are better too.
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