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Opinions on the legend of Count Saint Germain



 
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007



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 14, 2007 9:35 pm    Post subject: Opinions on the legend of Count Saint Germain Reply with quote

I've been fascinated by the legend of Count Saint Germain since I first read of him I'd like to begin a discussion of what is the opinion of the truth about this figure among the members of this forum. There are a number of different accounts of what the truth could be about this legend.
Here are some links in case you've never heard the legend.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Count_Saint_Germain
http://www.forteantimes.com/articles/146_stgermain.shtml
http://paranormal.about.com/library/weekly/aa010603a.htm

I look forward to hearing your theories and opinions

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Fen Zero



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 7:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OMG Count Saint Germain. My Grandma has tons of books written by him and articles about him . I have read some of them. Count Saint Germain seems to be a great person, with a white, illuminated aura, who trascended through time in his spiritual form. He has also developed many ways for spiritual enlightment.
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007



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 8:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

that's interesting i didn't know he had written books what are the best ones to read? do any tell how he attained immortality? i think i did see a book with him as author but i assumed someone else has taken his name. when you say he is in his spiritual form do you mean you think he has died and can return to his physical body like some kind of ascension? a book called 'psychic battlefield' (v interesting book) that i read stated that saint germain was the founder of the illuminati.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 11:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

fen zero, i would appreciate if you could name some of his books, as i have not found any, but havnt heavely searched yet.
attaining immortailty,he can probly turn himself into energy, physical body into energy, energy to physical body. either way probly does not matter. for to be immortal, youd need energy, least i would assume, but who knows. i could be wrong, but i believe alchemy has tendrails that reach into every teaching of society, and i believe many other teachings reach into alchemy, mabey mavey
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 11:22 pm    Post subject: 'saint' germaine Reply with quote

he hasnt ascended anywhere nor mastered anything.. he is a reptilion upon another plane of reality.

He calls himself 'saint'.. and leader of this and that, generally some high faluting title (as they all do)

He is a 'false god', one of many so-called 'ascended masters' .. that many have tuned into, this life and pastlives, purporting to lead the initiate to spiritual mastery .. which they cannot do, as they hold no higher/spiritual/ascension information (that is why they are on a lessor plane my dears) .. an astral being, with no information on ascension, piggy backing upon those who do.

And if you use a pendulum, which everyone should now be doing, to authenticate/discern the works and words of others that are saying they are something they are not.

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Pat
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007



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

that's interesting actually because on several occasions I have dowsed to find the truth about Count Saint Germain and have determined that most of the popular legend about him is close to the truth. I wonder why the information we gain from pendulum dowsing differs so greatly?
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kolo



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PostPosted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 8:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay 007 now ask your pendulum these questions pertaining to germaine.

* Does he hold any ascension truth? (as that is what the spiritual journey is now about)
* Can germain lead you, or anyone, to ascension?

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Pat
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 6:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

all beings are part of conciousness, and if you come into contact with you, mabey they are part of your conciousness? so in this, if you are true of spirit, if your strive truly, you will find, and things and stuff will come your way on your jouney. dont believe everyone, yet let everyone have their say. never be swayd by anything, for to stand personally unbiased is best, to see what is , is better. yet, ah i dunno

once heard, contemplating the thoughts is not true contemplating, for its the ego thinking of the ego. once a thought starts, find were that thought arose and search no more. do that 1. then contemplate emptyness, and how everything is empty. then contemplate how emptyness is a dilusion, the contemplate the dilusion of the dilusion, mmm somtihng like that, hahahahaha.
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007



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 3:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pat that is a 'yes' to both those questions and a 'no' to the question 'is Saint Germain a reptilian'. Strange that we get such different impressions from our dowsing perhaps pendulum divination only reveals our subconcious and not answers from a higher power.
Although it may seem funny it does not seem too far fetched to me that someone could attain immortality by esoteric means. Some people also believe that immortality through scientific means may be possible in the not too distant future. It may be possible Saint Germain is/was some kind of time traveller with access to advanced technologies? just a thought
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 12:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

haha, mabey the way in which he gained immortality, is a science in itself.
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shadowofthexend



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PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2011 5:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In one of my past lives, i met germain on two occasions. the first he and i just met and chatted. on the second, which happened years later, he informed he acheived immortality, but refuse to tell how due to an oath
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 6:15 pm    Post subject: Re: Opinions on the legend of Count Saint Germain Reply with quote

007 wrote:
I've been fascinated by the legend of Count Saint Germain since I first read of him I'd like to begin a discussion of what is the opinion of the truth about this figure among the members of this forum. There are a number of different accounts of what the truth could be about this legend.
Here are some links in case you've never heard the legend.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Count_Saint_Germain
http://www.forteantimes.com/articles/146_stgermain.shtml
http://paranormal.about.com/library/weekly/aa010603a.htm

I look forward to hearing your theories and opinions

From
007


In the 1930's, there was a couple named Guy and Edna Ballard who allegedly "met" the Ascended Master Saint Germain, and published dozens of books that were "dictated" to them by him, and created an entire religious movement devoted to the Ascended Masters and the achievement of the Ascension. 20 years ago, I found those books and became a student of the teachings and even went on to work at the Saint Germain Press in Schaumburg IL, which is the publishing house that publishes and prints the books. The best book in the series is the I AM Discourses, which is actually Volume III, but it is best to start with Volumes I and II first.

They normally hire Students to work at the Press, and while there, one was expected to fully commit to the teachings and apply the teachings to one's daily life (which led to an almost priest-like existence...no sex, no alcohol, for example). If you were chosen to work at the Press, you were told, after being hired, that Saint Germain had personally chosen you, and that your Ascension is guaranteed.

While working at the Press, I had several very strange metaphysical experiences, including seeing a picture of Saint Germain smile at me, among other things. I also had a strange experience while giving decrees (something like prayers to the I AM Presence - which is something like their explanation of what God is) where I saw a flash in my mind of what I would describe as a "lizard woman" who was sticking her tongue out at me. I dont know if this was an indication of who Saint Germain really is, or if I was just being taunted by an astral entity, or what. But I also saw flashes of beings who looked like angels, etc.

I only worked there for 3 months, however, and resigned, as the energy level there was VERY high, and VERY uncomfortable, and actually very creepy. I was 25 years old at the time and really felt out of place, as everyone else there was 60+ years old (most of the I AM Students found the activity 50 or 60 years ago, during its heyday). Not that that is an issue itself, but most of these people were constantly trying to manifest youthfulness and or finances, and none of them had ever seemed to manifest that. Maybe they were not applying the techniques correctly; I dont know.

I later found information on the internet, that pretty much proved that the Ballards had made up (and also plagiarized) most of the information in the books, and so even if they were channelling some ethereal being, it probably wasnt the kindly Saint Germain that we read about.

The I AM Activity, as it turns out, is actually a strange little cult, that almost no one knows about, whose leaders passed away decades ago.

Then you have the Church Universal and Trriumphant, which was started by Elizabeth Claire Prophet's husband back in the 50's. He was a former I AM Student who saw how much money was being made, and broke away to form his own group.

So is Saint Germain real? I dont know. If anything, he does exist now...because so many people have given thought and energy to the concept itself, that he has been given life and possibly exists as an entity in the astral realms somewhere.
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