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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And another thing: A demon once did help me. He filled me with the intoxicating energy it possesed and I loved it, it made me feel invincible almost as it raised not only my gifts but my natural abilities. But he didn't do it for me but because he wanted my trust and to think a little about his side. This was right before the light started to come to me in the visions I already explained, and the demon did help me find it in a way but not by making me stronger but because that night I wa meditating and I wanted to feed the darkness using my anger and the sorrow and guilt I felt for when I hurt someone very close to me. The more I concentrated on the feelings the more the energy grew. I knew this would help because I recalled one time when my friend was being targeted. He had begun devolping his gifts the same time the signs at his house started popping up. He'd see a dark figure lurking around, his dog at times would be too scaredto even enter the room and would cower when he tried to take her in there, things would be moved from time to time,among other signs, and in times when he was depressed the signs were signigicanly stronger. I thought he was full of it because it was the same time when I too was developing my gifts and I didn't believe such things were even real. But he didn't tell me until I was at his house and I thought I was seein things because I also obsurved a dark figure in the corner of my eye at times, along with black streaks and red orbs, and when he told me I knew he wasn't lieing and I tild him about the dreams I kept having that seemed to keep comming true and from there is how I began this life. My friend could will his dice to what he wished it to be and he also had dreams but the most important one to come into this was his mediumship. He told me what I had already had sensed, that the thing in his house was evil. The first time he had encounterd it was one night while me and him were talking over the internet, and he stopped talking for a bit which was usual but i had a bad feeling so I asked him if anything was wrong and he said that he was very scared(which is very new for him, if you knew him) and that he was closing his eyes relaxing and conentrating and then out of nowhere he saw these black eyes in his minds eye open and he was suddenly filled with a sudden sense of shock and also began crying for no reason. And when the dark figure was around he felt a very bad feeling and anger and hatred. And a very important detail that I found out later was before his girlfriend and her friends were holding a seionce(I know my spelling sucks) and that suddenly they stopped and everything in the room went out, which was later jsut passed off as just a coinisidence but she also began to see the same figure my friend had seen along with many similar signs but the thing was he never told my friend because she thought she was just losing it. And when it was around she felt herself become more depressed and began to convince herself she was worthless and what not even though everything was going great, but when the signs disappeared it stopped, but according to when she said it stopped was very close to the night when it all started. I know it would seem like they were pulling a fast one on me for poops and giggles but I was going through a part of my life I couldn't explain at the same time so I wasnt too closed minded and also I saw everything first hand before knowing about the other signs execpt for that he saw the eyes and you know.
Thats all a really long story which is why I never told it but we knew from then that it was trying to make them depressed to feed off of it and that it was evil.
But recaling this (this is back to the demon helping me before my first expierence with the "light") I knew anger and depression would feed it, as it was the same demon I delt with before. But the first rule to playing their game is your greatest strength is yor greatest weekness, and the second most important rule is rule one works both ways. As I let it dig deeper into my sorrow and guilt I hurt more and more and it grew stronger and as did the gifts those(which is wat i wanted at the time(thats another lng story for another time)) but then I remembered how I felt about the girl I felt so guitly fo hurting and how much I hated myself for doing so and I concenctrated on the feeling and then I saw the light..and the demon did not leave because I knew what it felt like cause I had once don it before, and I did not sense its presence there or anywhere..it was gone..for good..I was indiferent about what I did tho..because even tho it was evil i had made something conscious exist no more and I didnt kno wat to feel..But it was evil so I believe i was in the right becuase i didnt even know that would do that. But all the other demons were the exact same but thise are other stories a=for another time
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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 9:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Samba what's with the language?

Do you have any sense of respect for yourself? or others on the forum?

We are all one...so why did you choose to react with such swearing at other members?

Also Logarith although you wanted to add comic relief to the situation..this is really a serious forum..nothing comical going on here..

His mentor said to attack evil with pure unconditional love... and you replied 'Is your mentor Dumbledore?'

Really it was not a sensible response from you. I do hope you understand me fully now. This is a serious place.
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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 11:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I am sorry but Im going through a lot right now and seeing how Im a grown adult I am fully aloud to swear. I get he was just trying to be humerous so for that I will aplogize just not in the kidding mood latly.
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CJ



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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 11:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

samba640 wrote:
Ok both of you are idiots, I have delt with them PERSONALY and it isnt bad to do something for yourself but living only for yourself is evil and it is what they do. And I never said I was fully enlightened just gong through the expierence and I can talk however I want to because I have too much shit going on to care what the fuck you think. I don't seek to destroy all of them, like I said I only attack upon being attacked which I have been many times. Demons lie and they would love for you to believe they want to help you but they'd only really help you if there was something in it for them. They brought me into the fight and I have no intention on leaving because you two jack asses think that maybe demons aren't so bad and you'd only believe that if you havn't been through what I have so I have earned the right to insult you because I KNOW WHAT THEY ARE. Not a notion but I KNOW. Sure maybe some have the capacity to be good seeing how if angels can fall demons can rise but the majority are evil and I have every right to kill every last one that tries to harm me.
And I only got really rude and told him to shut the fuck up because I thought he was being a smart ass mocking my mentor.


If demons are almost all evil, as you seem to be claiming, then how is it that I am alive right now? About three years ago, I did a lot of work involving summoning demons. At the time, I was only 12, so it would have been simple for those I summoned to harm me, but I almost never received more than a scratch. In many of these cases, I offered them control of my body as thanks for help or to prove my trust in them. In those times, they never harmed anyone were very gracious. Of course, just like humans, they are not universally kind. About two years ago, I decided to show my best friend (who in a sense was introduced to me by demons) that magick was more than fiction. Several months later, he attempted a summoning on his own. The demon he summoned ended up driving him into a severe depression, and for a short time made him suicidal. After a while, we did manage to get rid of it, but my friend is still in a lot of emotional pain. I HAVE had horrible experiences with these beings, but that doesn't mean I will have a right to hate them all. There have also been many times that they have helped me, asking for nothing in return, unless you consider a friendly conversation to be beneficial enough for them to be acting solely out of self interest. I'm not asking you to "leave the light", I'm asking you to not be blinded by it. Also, to my knowledge a sense of superiority does NOT, in fact, give you the right to insult us. It is not my intent to insult you or question your intelligence, but I consider all members of this community to be friends and family. For that reason, I want to help you avoid making a mistake that you will most likely regret. The beings you are at battle with will not sit back and watch you kill their brethren. They have emotions the same as ours, and will harm you if you continue to be violent. At the very least, the next time one seeks to attack you, apologize and try to make peace. I really don't enjoy fighting with you, so can we please make this a more relaxed and civil argument. If you wish to continue, that is.


PS: From now on, could you please make your sentences a little shorter? It's getting a little confusing.
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PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2008 1:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok kid for the last time, I will repeat for the fifth time, and I'll use small words as to not confuse you: Demon attack me. The light flows through me. Demon gone. I don't go trying to exterminate them. And it is by all means completly idiotic to say killing something trying to kill you is wrong because they do not stop. There is a..species, if you will, of demon that are mostly nice to humans, probably the kind you are familar with. I dont have a problem with them because they havnt tried to kill me. But as long as they attack me, because as I tried to make clear but you must have misunderstood: they attacked me first and the first one I killed was an accident because it was not my will to kill it but the light; The good and the love that flowed through me. It was because it was evil and made of darkness that the light would cancel it out. I understand its not a simple concept so I'm not calling you idiotic for that, that is understandable. But don't say that I don't know what the demons I faced were. You are not me and you havn't been what I have been through, not saying you havn't had expiernce. I don't like fighting either but Im trying to get a poin across and you keep just saying I don't know what Im talking about but I've been doing this for a very long time, and so has my family, and I wouldn't just thoughtlessly kill something I didn't know for sure was evil.
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PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2008 2:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's not the words that confused me. It was the fact that you were using up four or five lines with a single sentence, like "The first time he had encounterd it was one night while me and him were talking over the internet, and he stopped talking for a bit which was usual but i had a bad feeling so I asked him if anything was wrong and he said that he was very scared(which is very new for him, if you knew him) and that he was closing his eyes relaxing and conentrating and then out of nowhere he saw these black eyes in his minds eye open and he was suddenly filled with a sudden sense of shock and also began crying for no reason." When you don't stop and use periods it makes the pacing erratic, which makes it difficult to understand what is being said. Now, you claim that killing the first demon was an accident. Do you expect the demons to instantly know that? If you apologize for it, and explain the situation, then they will most likely stop. Demons don't just kill for the hell of it. The same as most humans, they are driven by a reason. Demons are virtually the same as humans. There is no small "species" of good ones in a massive army of evil ones. You are the one failing to understand that good and evil are merely perceptions. For this, among countless other reasons, you cannot kill a demon by "canceling out its darkness with light". In order for this to be possible, it would have to be darkness. Now, you have made it quite clear to us that you believe that the majority of demons are evil, but personal experiences make that rather unlikely. I, along with roughly a dozen of my friends, have all done summoning. Each of us have summoned somewhere around 50 demons a piece. In total, we have had 4 encounters in which the demon wished us harm. If you are correct and the majority of demons are evil, then we are extraordinarily lucky. Then, there are thousands of other accounts you can find online of people having civil conversations with demons. And I'm not just saying all these things with nothing to back them up. When I first summoned a demon, it was kind of in impulse thing that I didn't intend to do. At the time, I was a Christian raised in a rural town, so the idea of a kind demon was completely foreign. One of the first questions I asked was "aren't you supposed to be evil?" Rather than answering the demon asked permission to enter my body, and I gave it. In a situation like that, there is no way to hide or lie. I saw the truth about demons, and they are very proud. An incredibly small amount of them would actually try to kill a person. Many times, they themselves kill the demons responsible for harming humans. If possible, could you please give me some information regarding the attacks? In what way did they attack you? Did they just outright attack, or did they speak to you or sit around for a while? And roughly how many have attacked you? And is there a specific thing you have done to attract them other than killing? And your family as a whole has been fighting demons? If so, why didn't you go to them for help when dealing with that first demon?
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PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2008 3:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I TOLD U THEY ATTACKED ME. How many times do I have to say it? I didn't do anything to them, not even the first one. Every demon I have delt with was evil and 50 is a relativly small number of demons, even between four people. And it's not my family as a whole who fight demons, lets just say it runs in the family and the last member of my family besides myself who had gifts and handled this kind of work died years before I even discovered my abilities. And you can also look up a lot of cases of demons attacking people. and every culture in the world mostly depicts them as evil spirits who were responisble for horrible things, although they don't all call them "demons". And I know many demonoligist and other people who deal with demons who know that most are evil. You got tied into the group of the demons that respect humans who respect them becauseyou performed summonings. I got tied into the majority because a demon attacked me, I killed it. I have nothing to apologize for because it attacked me and I was protected by the divinity I summoned that destroyed it. I used the metaphor of canceling out its energy because its a simple way of putting it . Its also a theory of how it is destroyed used by many psychics. I know you want to think they can be nice, which they can. But I don't even know how many of them are evil because its not exactly something you can just count and keep track of. I dont assume each one I encounter is evil, it just turned out though. So you can stop questioning the ethics of killing them because for the millionth time they attacked me first, I dont care if you think they would or not but they did.
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PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2008 3:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The number of people was 10-12, not 4. So that's 500-600 demons total, which is a lot. Considering only 4 out of 600 were hostile, I'd say it's rather unlikely that it was coincidence. What those cultures saw could be any spiritual being that was hostile towards humans, not necessarily what would be referred to today as demons. Those cultures also blamed everything negative on evil spirits, so they aren't the best evidence of demons being evil. I accept that you were attacked, and that what you did was self defense. I have no problem with it, and it was your right to act as you did. However, it may still possible to solve the problem in a nonviolent manner, and I was merely suggesting a method of avoiding conflict. And I'm sorry about the apologizing comment. To be honest, I skimmed most of that big paragraph you wrote, and missed most of it. The reason demonologists would say that demons are almost all evil is because those are the cases people here about. When someone gets possessed, they get people sent in and an hour on The Haunting. No one is really interested in the story of a guy summoning a demon, then having a nice conversation. Again, could you please tell me roughly how many demons have attacked you? Like a dozen, fifty, or too many to count?
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PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2008 7:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have banned him CJ.

He still intends to be disrespectful and is totally avoiding your queries which are aimed to help him..

I just had to delete his last reply which was also disrespectful.

He is evidently out to only cause trouble here...

I am sure you will psychically feel this as well..
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PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2008 9:05 pm    Post subject: Demonic Possesion Reply with quote

Alright, I'm 14, have known that I am sensitive for about 4 years now and have had several demonic possessions. From my personal experience I have to say that the demons are not hostile to their host, a majority of them caused me no harm at all, and the only one I can remember that caused me harm cause to small marks to appear on my arm, like fangs that healed extremely fast. If I was going to say anything to warn people that are susceptible to possession then it would be to be careful. I've called on a demon before to help me in a fight, and it helped but when i came to i had my hands around someones throat and was slamming them into the ground. They can give an amazing amount of resilience and strength but you have to be careful that they don't control you. Another time I was sitting at home alone and i suddenly had a vision of a mirror, in a room of complete darkness, in which my reflection spoke to me. It told me some things which I later found to be true, and the visions happened several times. As far as I can see, Demons in themselves are not harmful, instead it is the people who direct them who are.

As a point to order I have a sort of residual possession that can take hold at any time, that acts like an extra sense and helps me continue in physical tasks. So anyone who thinks long term possession is really bad can speak to me.
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PostPosted: Tue May 27, 2008 6:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi, everyone. I've become very interested in your conversation. I'm working with an award winning producer and director on a television series about demon hunters, and we are looking for people to feature. Please send us an email at demonhunter@olivefilms.tv if you'd be interested in chatting about this some more.
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PostPosted: Wed May 28, 2008 11:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you do get members to feature in it..dont forget to mention this site!
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 6:54 pm    Post subject: how Reply with quote

How do you track demons?
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Technacally is you killed a demon it would have no effect due to the yin yang effect when one died another would be created.

Also the fact could be that the demons are actually helping people some how and maybe people are suffering due to this killing.

Sometimes i can feel the pain of those around me which is classed as empathy I hate it. when people tell me painful storys as i can feel the pain of the person in that story E.G. my friend once told me that his cousin got her ear peirced and one day will she was on a swing her earring got caught on the chains and ripped her ear open even as i write this i can feel the throbbing in my left ear
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