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haywire · Joined: 20 Nov 2005 Posts: 55

In my opinion a "demon" or demon can be like any other human consciousness, positive, negative or neutral and anywhere between, or something like that. Sorry for the bad English... not my native language.
I have very little knowledge of demons, but I believe I have a few demon friends, although hard to believe, they are blocked by leeches (or some sort of phantasms) that eat my mind and body. This is an interesting matter indeed. I'd also like to know more about ethereal entities etc, and other realms of existence.

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Maitreya · Joined: 03 Jun 2008 Posts: 29

haywire · Joined: 20 Nov 2005 Posts: 55

In a part you wrote: "I warn you from experience that a demon will consume your entire existence." (sorry I don't use quote). I have to disagree with that, it only happens if you let it happen. Like fear that shreds your aura from the inside, gives an opening. And I don't like the consept of calling any beings "demons" just like that, as usually people have very little knowledge of them, like me for instance, don't actually know much about spirits and ethereal entities (my word for that of a "demon"). And sorry for the bad english once more, not my native language.

Something you call a demon might even be a deceased human being in a confused state.

Sorry but I'm just like this, always have a scientific view of things. (or strive to have)...

All that sounds like teachings straight from a bible (of some religion). The wanted freedom, descended spirits (that were originally good) a.k.a angels, that were banished from heaven etc... (one of them even became "lucifer" and lured most angels to his side?). That is most likely what christians believe, but it is your own choice to believe what you want. [regarding the first post]

I bet summoning "demons" would practically be quite simple (or maybe not), but that's not my thing. I will not conjure. Smile

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dei · Joined: 01 Jul 2008 Posts: 141

Although I was raised Christian to the point of resenting anything Christian today, I always, in some part, knew the truth that demons were not all evil. Yes, there are evil demons, but mostly just ones who are, say, ones who have experienced much evil and enjoyed it. There are also good demons, ones who do good despite being stereotyped as an unholy being.

In my care there is actually a succubus who radiates an aura of good, who calls herself Lady Sira. She was the one who taught me the last lesson that regards not all demons being evil. Most are just neutral but with very human attributes, like being hedonistic, greedy, pesky, obsessive, and such, while others are good and possibly more pure than the most innocent being on their best days.

However, I said yesterday something regarding demonologists and defilers. Defilers only work with the more evil demons because they themselves are corrupt and evil. They do what they do because they don't know better. So, it is better to correct them over time than to destroy them. Then again, in my opinion, if someone threatens your life with magic and such, you have the right to kick their ass.

That is all.

EmeraldTerraWolf · Joined: 06 Aug 2008 Posts: 1 Location: new jersey

hello ^^; i was wondering if anyone here would be able to help me out. I am currently dealing with a very strong demon and i need as much help as i can get... it started out in my closet, giving me nightmares and whatnot (thats how it feeds apparently) i had my brother come over to exorcise it, and something went wrong (it was both our first times dealing with one this strong) and now im afraid its in him and im so lost right now. I have the demons name (dunno if i should post it) its been inside him since January (dunno if its feeding off him or not) i just want to get rid of it.

dei · Joined: 01 Jul 2008 Posts: 141

I'm not familiar with exorcisms, but I'd be willing to help. PM me with the demon's name and I'll see what I can do. Perhaps if I invoke the name of the Huntress Moon, Artemis, or possibly find the demon's "true name", I could get it out of your brother.

However, to my knowledge, all demons fear not just the invocation of higher powers, but holy symbols like pentagrams and hexagrams work wonders, and, on occasion, so does negotiation and/or trickery.

Luluwa · Joined: 03 Mar 2006 Posts: 86

"Demon" just means any spirit.

In the eyes of stricter religions, anything that wasn't expressly from "God" was seen as having to originated "from below" so they had to be "evil". Many of the ideas of what constitutes a "demon" or "angel" come from Medieval Catholicism. "Satan" went through many changes artistically - at one time it was even believed he was blue and where he was in hell was cold because he was "so far removed from God's love". Ha.

So basically, wipe the board clean of all your previous notions and ideas and just know that spirits exist of all kinds and have all kinds of functions. There may even be those who have negative functions but that doesn't make them "evil"; it's just their job to be negative.

Sadly enough, what people believe and give power to, they create, even if it is artificial, and many of the "demons" people believe in, or what they call them, are powerful mashed up creations of various superstitions, artificial beings brought forth of confused beliefs. This doesn't mean they can't be helpful somehow, or might or might not fit a stereotype, but they might not be everything you're hoping to find.

Most types of summoning are performed by people that it can be said, no offense, that their training isn't complete. They don't know what they're looking for. They're just out to have contact with *something* and they don't care what it is.

Often times people end up trying and trying and putting so much energy into summoning that they end up creating a thoughtform of exactly what it is they were trying to summon in the first place. This thoughtform may be powerful. It may even be helpful. Most of the time it'll tell you whatever you wanted to hear, because it'll be from you in the first place. It might lead you to believe you're the chosen one. It might lead you to believe that only you really know what you're doing and the rest of the world has it wrong. It happens. The more you believe in it, the stronger it gets, and the easier it becomes to "summon".

Do some homework on it. The Practice of Magical Evocation has some good pointers, especially about providing the right atmosphere for whatever it is you are summoning and taking neccessary precautions beforehand, even though it gets some of the names of spirits mixed up. There are other books that deal just in Summoning and generally they won't care whether you're dealing with "demons" or "angels".

Work on your own training of your astral senses and intuition and you'll be just fine.

Melchizedek · Joined: 03 Apr 2006 Posts: 112

I've been practicing Solomonic magik, for a year or two and I can tell you, that these demons are real. They are also evil, because the only thing that I see, is dark beings with massive claws and hideous faces.

I've learned that magik though, is all about the mind, that there really isn't any thing else. They do have secrets for obtaining powers, except they all want the same thing, from me. Control of my mind.

I would reccomend being careful, because once you start in with them, if your not strong enough mentally/spirtually, they will torment you and make you miserable. I know because it happened to me and still happens to me. If I just start thinking about any of them, they appear in my mind and start talking to me.

I was looking to gain power from them.

I read the grimore from solomon and in it, he bargains with them by agreeing to do certain things. They always ask for your soul at first, then you have to be careful, and say no and then come to an agreement.

I would say, that it's not a good path to take, because all they'll do, from the beginning is search inside you, looking for a weakness in you to exploit. That's all they ever did to me, when I contacted them, which I have to say, is much easier than you can imagine.

Just take a sigil for the demon you want to contact and call out it's name in your mind, it'll appear, but you really should do it, from inside a circle, like drawn in the solomon keys. You should also have at least 3 other people, on the same wave length as yourself.

You can take radionic software and put the sigil in the trend box, along with what you want from any particular demona dn you will feel it, in about 2 seconds, regardless of who you are.

You don't need to be an expert to contact them. You need to be an expert, in not getting fooled by them, whne they contnously intimdate you, by showing you the most hideous things, thoughts, you could ever imagine. Making you think that your getting attacked by monsters, spiders, whatever your afraid of, they can read your mind and will use , whatever fears you have against you, all the time.

You need to stay in your circle and focus all your mentalpower on making it resistant to them. It's very diffucult to do

AstralAspirant · Joined: 18 Jun 2006 Posts: 17

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