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crowborne
Joined: 23 Mar 2009 Posts: 7
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Posted: Tue Mar 24, 2009 9:56 pm Post subject: Morals. Why do so many people here lack them? |
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| I have noticed something rather alarming here. It seems that most of the users know nothing about magical law and are just using spells or summoning things with no thought to the consequences. Why is that? Do most of the users not know that they will get a huge karmic kick in the ass one day or do they just think that karma and the rule of three and things like that aren't real and you shouldn't listen to them? |
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mihael_11
Joined: 02 Feb 2009 Posts: 122
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Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 7:11 am Post subject: |
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What is rule of three?
Yes that is true. I always think why would something be good for and what is wrong with that. Almost always i realize, that whatever i want to do makes no sense.
You cant just use everything in your own good. |
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crowborne
Joined: 23 Mar 2009 Posts: 7
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Posted: Wed Mar 25, 2009 8:49 pm Post subject: |
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| The rule of three is one of the most basic principles of magic use. It states that whatever you do will come back to you times three. Do something bad, something three times worse will happen to you. Do something good, something three times better will happen. |
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haywire
Joined: 20 Nov 2005 Posts: 183
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Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 4:26 pm Post subject: ... |
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So the law of three is a basic principle? I don't think that such a thing even exists, or the teaching of a law is greatly distorted and the original teaching was lost, because there is so much more out there than f******* limiting psionic rules and laws (laws of nature are those which prevail in my opinion). Yep, people have many opinions, but my opinion is that law of three is a fairytale, if you believe in it, you might just create it to be real for yourself. And Karma must be a lot more complex of a thing than just reaction -> counterback, or such. Seriously, people should just use their common sense in this and not to submit to rules that do not even really exist, you decide what is right.
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Ratmaster
Joined: 14 Feb 2008 Posts: 82
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Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 12:44 am Post subject: |
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How is this a moral issue, if I may ask?
It's certainly a question of discipline, however. But all in all, isn't Karma supposed to be about learning lessons from one life to the next? How can one gain discipline without a little pain here and there?
I, for one, don't believe in reincarnation or Karma, so I don't worry about effects beyond my own lifetime. However, there is nothing that I find immoral about techniques that only affect the user. My moral code is that anything goes so long as nobody (else) gets hurt. |
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crowborne
Joined: 23 Mar 2009 Posts: 7
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Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 2:10 am Post subject: |
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And that is a very good way to be. I am more concerned about the people who go looking for love spells, or want to force people to dream of them, and something creepy sounding called "psychic seduction". I have no problem with people doing what they want, as long as it only affects them. It just seems like too many people here are using magic and other forces on other people just for their own personal gain. That just seems like it is almost a crime.
I really don't care if one believes in the rule of three or karma or anything like that. It is still wrong to use powers on others to try to force them to do what you want or to just hurt them. I don't know, call me old fashioned, call me brainwashed, call me whatever you like. This is just how I feel. |
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haywire
Joined: 20 Nov 2005 Posts: 183
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Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 7:33 pm Post subject: topic |
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All that love spell stuff and "psychic seduction" is valid and indeed does work, it is irrelevant what one thinks of it. There are so many people that only live for the "sake" or "fun" of imposing one's belief or thought on another. This happens of course all the time, I'm guilty in this field too to some extent. Maybe it's somehow like if the person being subject to someone else using magic of any type on them (positive or negative), might maybe mean that they have somehow accepted (on a somewhat spiritual level) for this to happen. So no mistakes can be done in the long run. (this would be something like the common belief of Karma etc...)...
Personally I don't judge anyone for what they do. It's up to them. Sorry for my possible rudeness but I'm just like this, I couldn't care less about fame or s*it like that because to me that is a value which does not even exist and is just a mental dilusion. It's more important to beat(defeat) yourself. lol....
Anyway a positive view of life and self sounds like a winner here in about all cases.
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Lanie
Joined: 01 Apr 2009 Posts: 13
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Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 5:38 pm Post subject: |
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I subscribe to the live-and-let-live attitude. What other people are doing is none of my business. If they ask for my opinion that is when I tell them what I think. But I would only say what's on my mind, and won't judge them or measure them according to my viewpoint. Then again I'm still a newbie and don't know much about mystical stuff. LOL |
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cobra3
Joined: 20 Apr 2009 Posts: 20 Location: Ozark Mountains
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Posted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 3:49 pm Post subject: Re: Morals. Why do so many people here lack them? |
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| crowborne wrote: |
| I have noticed something rather alarming here. It seems that most of the users know nothing about magical law and are just using spells or summoning things with no thought to the consequences. Why is that? Do most of the users not know that they will get a huge karmic kick in the ass one day or do they just think that karma and the rule of three and things like that aren't real and you shouldn't listen to them? |
Utter nonsense. We are about defying karma. On the other hand, I would expect I am far more ethical than you are. It is not enough not to harm. All who do less than change history, create jobs, mentor the young, and adopt the severely disabled know no powers at all. So, I take it you are a community leader, a business owner, a teacher at university, an inventor, a parent, etcetera. If not, by my standards, you are immoral…or just too powerless to exercise moral imperative. To others, it is merely fanciful to think that there is some principle of karmic balance. Purer superstition. When I adopt a child given no chance to live, I defy all that karma can muster. Such is being mankind. If there is ravine karma puts before us, we build a bridge. |
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VirtualLight
Joined: 29 Jan 2009 Posts: 62 Location: Queensland, Australia
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Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 5:48 am Post subject: |
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| I consider myself to be very moral. I would never harm spirits, or read someones mind without permission. You need to have respect for positive as well as negative forces and be grounded and level headed. This is easier said then done, but with practice it can be achieved... |
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haywire
Joined: 20 Nov 2005 Posts: 183
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Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 9:27 pm Post subject: nicely put. |
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VirtualLight you said that you would never harm spirits. Well I am not knowledgable about these things at all but I find that I am constantly attacked by some (maybe bugs or phantasms or phantoms), but I'd like to hear your opinion about it, if spirits really are attacking me or not. Thanks in advance, I'm not too social at the moment, but I will try my best to be friendly and polite and helpful if just if you decide to contact me. (it is well possible).
And I really do not think that anyone should ever feel guilty about posting an opinion, those are always welcome of course. I'm personally always annoyed and pissed because I'm pretty much always under attack, so I'm used to it. It feels like bugs on a windshield to me. And even some spirits, damned if I may say...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDeYrMhYn4s&feature=PlayList&p=FD41BADC02AD7E0A&index=14
So, how is it possible to harm spirits? I've never done that being aware of what I've done. And I find it pretty annoying not to know. Because I somehow feel I am able to fully do that kind of thing. |
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csiguy14
Joined: 23 Jun 2008 Posts: 20
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Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2009 8:15 pm Post subject: |
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| No i really do not beleive that most people know magical laws. It has also been my experience on this website that a large majority of individuals on this site do not beleive in the law of three, and therefore they do not fear the repracussions. |
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d_redant Site Admin
Joined: 03 Jan 2005 Posts: 1820 Location: London, UK.
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Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 2:24 am Post subject: |
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I would not assume anything about the members of this site.
You should not as well.
For me..I believe what goes around comes around and I believe the majority of members feel the same way although many do not.
That's okay.. Everyone has their own level of development, understanding and growth.
Nobody is wrong actually.
At the stage i've reached I've realized by EXPERIENCE..That What Goes Around...Comes Around.
Not just mere assumptions. Experience
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| No i really do not beleive that most people know magical laws. It has also been my experience on this website that a large majority of individuals on this site do not beleive in the law of three, and therefore they do not fear the repracussions. |
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d_redant Site Admin
Joined: 03 Jan 2005 Posts: 1820 Location: London, UK.
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Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 5:57 am Post subject: |
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I should also add that at first for many many years I never bought into Karma and its current Actions - Reactions principles in the NOW.
However as I said..Experience has shown me that it does matter.
It aiint a fairytale and anybody who sends out negative will get back negative sooner or later in some form or the other.
Keep piling up your negatives and you end up with a really Nasty result in the Physical Realm.
So I'd recommend stick to the positive in all things.
Keep piling up your positives and you'll be amazed at how the Universe can open up for you in so many Positive ways for your highest good. |
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csiguy14
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Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2009 7:33 pm Post subject: |
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| I did not intend offense by my last comment. i was merly reflecting upon a previous topic about the law of three i read. it seemed like most of the posts did not beleive in the law of three. i was simply stateing my observation but do appologize for my assumptions since i do not know the exact number of members and is then unfair for me to make that statement for the whole. |
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