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Qigong is actually pre-historic culture

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 11:07 am    Post subject: Qigong is actually pre-historic culture Reply with quote

The Pyramids of Giza are built along a north/south alignment as well as according to Orion's belt in the sky. The shafts are directed towards certain constellations. Graham Hancock, Robert Buvaul, and others have shown this. That in itself is also similar to some Asian traiditions.

Chinese and Tibetan Pyramid. Kunlun mountains area, between China and Tibet

http://www.crystalinks.com/pyramidchina.html
http://www.earthquest.co.uk/china/china.html

http://www.cyberspaceorbit.com/text/dnew54x.htm

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"An American, James Gaussman, and a German, Hartwig Hausdorf, are responsible for this. While serving as a USAF pilot during WWII, flying supplies from India to Chungking, Gaussman photographed a huge pyramid in China. It was the only evidence available to the outside world until the publication of Hausdorf's recent books, "Satellites of the Gods" and "The White Pyramid" in German.

According to "Atlantis Rising," Hausdorf's work provides "many more photos, plus videotape and his eyewitness report of at least a hundred pyramids in China's Shensi Province."



quote-
"Gaussman was flying a routine mission between India and China when he suffered engine problems that forced him to descend to a lower altitude. In his report to an intelligence officer, he is quoted as saying:

"I banked to avoid a mountain and we came out over a level valley. Directly below was a gigantic white pyramid. It looked like something out of a fairy tale. It was encased in shimmering white. This could have been metal, or some sort of stone. It was pure white on all sides. The remarkable thing was the capstone, a huge piece of jewel-like material that could have been crystal. There was no way we could have landed, although we wanted to. We were struck by the immensity of the thing."



and-
"Sheahan's encounter was presented in 1947 in the March 28 edition of the New York Times, under the headline "U.S. Flier Reports Huge Chinese Pyramid In Isolated Mountains Southwest of Sian [Xi'an]." In the article, Sheehan is quoted as saying that the pyramid he saw seemed to "dwarf those of Egypt" and he estimates its height at 1000 feet and its width at 1500 feet. If these dimensions are accurate, this structure would indeed dwarf the pyramids of Egypt, the largest of which stands only 450 feet tall.

Sheahan places the location of the pyramid at the end of a long inaccessible valley at the foot of the Qin Ling Mountains about 40 miles southwest of Xi'an. Near the main structure he describes a smaller pyramid and at the near end of the valley are hundreds of small burial mounds visible from the Longhai railroad. In describing the structure he says, "I was impressed by its perfect pyramidal form and its great size. "



"No photos accompanied the original New York Times article and photos were similarly absent in articles based on the same United Press story printed in other newspapers around the globe. Chinese pyramid photoA photo of the reported pyramid does not appear until two days later in the New York Sunday News for March 30, 1947. This photo has since been the focus of endless scrutiny and speculation. However, its origin and indeed what it actually shows has never been satisfactorily resolved."




Some cool video clips here of 1700 year old qigong school from China and Tibet. It contains 72 sets in total.
http://www.threegeese.com/qipage3.html
http://www.possiblesociety.org/dayanqi.htm
http://www.qimagazine.com/qigong.htm



clips of the cultivation forms-
http://www.qiqigong.com/NewFiles/wildgoose1qigong.html#
http://www.qiqigong.com/NewFiles/wildgoose6qigong.html?rtnPt=0&id=206645&isPreview=true#
http://www.qiqigong.com/NewFiles/wildgoose3qigong.html?rtnPt=0&id=206466&isPreview=true#
http://www.qiqigong.com/NewFiles/wildgoose5qigong.html?rtnPt=0&id=206672&isPreview=true#
http://www.qiqigong.com/NewFiles/wildgoose7qigong.html?rtnPt=0&id=207132&isPreview=true#
http://www.qiqigong.com/NewFiles/wg9dvd1216websmaller2pass001.mov

Check out how similar the Dayan qigong posture at the very bottom of this page, is to Yoga
http://dayan.oompa.net/qigong-syllabus.html

http://dayan.oompa.net/qigong.html


Wu Ji, Tai Ji, Yin Yang, 8 trigrams, and Color
http://www.anton-heyboer.org/i_ching/trigrams/archetypes.htm
http://www.biosonic.org/ManualEng/COLORS.html
http://www.msnucleus.org/membership/html/k-6/as/physics/5/asp5_4a.html




http://www.world-mysteries.com/mpl_2.htm




Here's a good article that talks about prehistory, from the teachings of Falun Dafa-
http://falundafa.org/book/eng/mgjf.htm

Quote:

" We don’t think that the theory of evolution I mentioned earlier ever happened. Through the ages, humankind has gone through civilizations of different periods many times. Each time human morality became degenerate, its civilization would be destroyed. Very few people would survive in the end. They would inherit a little of the culture from the previous civilization and develop after going through another stone age. The stone age isn’t limited to one period only—there have been a lot of stone ages. Today’s scientists have found some problems: Many archaeological findings aren’t from just one period. But when they try to fit them into the theory of evolution, they can’t explain it in the face of the facts. We’ve found that the humans on this Earth, that is, the people from different historical periods, have left behind cultural relics of different periods. Modern people all say that the pyramids in ancient Egypt were built by Egyptians. But they have nothing to do with the present-day Egyptians whatsoever. That is, humans and nations have a wrong understanding of their own history. The pyramids and the Egyptians have nothing to do with each other at all. Those pyramids were built during a prehistoric civilization, and sank under water during a continental shift. When the civilization that followed was about to emerge and new continents were being created, they rose up from the depths of the water. That group of people was long gone, and then the present-day Egyptians came later. After discovering the functions of these pyramids, the Egyptians built some smaller pyramids like these. They discovered that the pyramids were pretty good for storing coffins inside, so they put coffins in them. Some were newly built, some came from the distant past. This has made today’s people unable to figure out which period they really came from. History has been messed up.

Many people say that the Mayan culture was related to today’s Mexicans. Actually, it had nothing at all to do with the Mexicans, who are only a mixed race of the Spaniards and the indigenous people. The Mayan culture, on the other hand, belonged to the previous civilization’s period in history. That human race was destroyed in Mexico, and only a small number of people survived. But the Mayan culture was directly related to Mongolians. I won’t get into the details here. Humankind doesn’t know its own historical origins. The same is true for the Caucasians. During the last great flood—the last human civilization was destroyed by a great flood—all the big mountains on the earth that had elevations of less than two thousand meters were submerged, and only the people who lived above two thousand meters survived. The story of Noah’s Ark is true. During that great flood the Western culture was completely destroyed, and the Eastern culture was also in ruins. But the mountain people who lived in the areas of the Himalayan and Kunlun Mountains and who were like rural people were fortunate enough to escape—the Chinese people who lived in the Kunlun Mountains survived. At that time the Eastern culture was well-developed; Yellow River Diagram (Hetu), Luo River Writings (Luoshu), Book of Changes (I Ching), Tai Chi, Eight Trigrams (Bagua), and so on were inherited from the past. People say that they were created by this person or that person of a later generation. Those people only modified them and made them public again. They weren’t created by those people at all, and were all from prehistoric cultures. Although these things were passed down in China, there were even more of them during China’s development in history. More were preserved in ancient times, but they became fewer and fewer as they were passed down. So it’s a nation with a rich cultural background and deep historical origins—that’s China. The Caucasian culture, on the other hand, was wiped out after it was completely submerged by that great flood. At that time, alongside the continent of Europe there was another continent that also sank. That was their most developed area, and it sank, too. So the Caucasians have redeveloped from nothing—no civilization at all—to the science they have today.

The science of ancient China is different from this empirical science of the West. Many archeologists have discussed these issues with me, and I explained everything to them. They also felt that this is the case, because they had many puzzling questions that couldn’t be explained. As I just said, humankind’s understanding of the universe can’t possibly go much further. Nowadays, the starting point of many scientists’ research is wrong. Those who’ve made some achievements in their fields, in particular, are unable to let go of them. They’ve defined what they have understood and set limits. Many of you in the audience are students studying outside China, Ph.D.’s., and Master’s degree holders with open minds. You’ll find that their definitions are correct within the scope of their realms, but that once you go beyond their understanding and their realm the definitions are wrong and restrictive. A truly accomplished scientist is one who dares to break through these limits. For Einstein, too, what he said was only correct within the realm of his understanding; but beyond that realm, what he said is found to be wrong. Do you see the principle? This is because when humans have ascended, when the state of your thinking approaches the high-level truth, and when you approach high levels, you’ll find that the understandings at low levels are wrong. This is how it is."






The math of the Egyptian God/Atlantean Thoth. Appears very similar in structure to chinese philosophy


Yoga
http://www.yoga-videos.net/
http://www.atlantis.to/Products/about-tibetan-yoga.htm
http://www.yoga-tibet.com/index.html



Yod He Vau He
http://www.atlantis.to/LTA/chapter-nineteen-pg16.htm
http://www.atlantis.to/LTA/chapter-nineteen-pg17.htm
metaphysics!
http://www.atlantis.to/LTA/19.htm



Now, from the Tablets of Thoth, describing meditation and Chakra cultivation. On a North/South alignment like Qigong is practiced
http://www.crystalinks.com/emerald13bw.html

From "The Keys to Life and Death"-
Quote:
When thou hast learned to hold thine own balance,
then shalt thou draw on the balance of Earth.
Exist then shalt thou while Earth is existing,
changing in form, only when Earth, too, shalt change:
Tasting not of death, but one with this planet,
holding thy form till all pass away.

List ye, O man, whilst I give the secret so that
ye, too, shalt taste not of change.
One hour each day shalt thou lie
with thine head pointed to the
place of the positive pole (north).
One hour each day shalt thy head be
pointed to the place of the negative pole (south).
Whilst thy head is placed to the northward,
hold thou thy consciousness from the chest to the head.

And when thy head is placed southward,
hold thou thy thought from chest to the feet.
Hold thou in balance once in each seven,
and thy balance will retain the whole of its strength.
Aye, if thou be old, thy body will freshen
and thy strength will become as a youth's.
This is the secret known to the Masters
by which they hold off the fingers of Death.
Neglect not to follow the path I have shown,
for when thou hast passed beyond years
to a hundred to neglect
it will mean the coming of Death.



This chapter from "The Lost Teachings of Atlantis" talks about ancient technology that was used in pyramids-
http://www.atlantis.to/LTA/19.htm

Pyramids had two purposes. One was for a final spiritual initiation. The long hallway up the pyramid, at one time had magnificent images along it of the stages of spiritual development and the Tarot images. The initiate would be placed in total darkness in the pyramid with a certain ointment on them, and a final enlightenment or near( or complete) death experience would be brought on.

They were also power plants. At the very top of the pyramids was placed a capstone of gold with a crystal(maybe quartz?) in it, which I think absorbed and focused rays from the sun. In the center of the pyramid would be placed a large electric capacitor. With the power of the capacitor, and the crystal at the top. Anyways, I'm not too great at explaining or understanding all the exact details. But the Pyramids allowed wireless tranmission to power lights and vehicles, or ships even at one time, without wires or fuel.

They were actually built 10,500 BC as opposed to the conventional dating of 2,500 BC. Underneath the Sphinx is Grandmaster Thoth's terrestial airship. In recent times Dr. Robert Schoch and John Anthony West discovered the rain weathering patterns on the Sphinx provides hard evidence that that type of weathering could only happen from 10,000 BC to 5000 BC. Author Graham Hancock has demonstrated that the shafts of the Great Pyramid point directly to certain stars and contellations. But it doesn't match the stars in 2,500 BC, it matches the sky in 10,500 BC.



Here's a page with quite a bit of info in pre history, and various prehistoric civilizations
http://www.nii.net/~obie/historygold.htm


http://www.world-mysteries.com/mpl_2.htm

http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/Great-Pyramid-of-Giza
http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/Moscow-and-Rhind-Mathematical-Papyri



Originally the Pyramids had a nice shiny outer coating, and capstones at the top.


Even today, possibly 10s of thousands of years later, they dwarf modern Cairo buildings. The bottom layout area is larger than many many football fields. Each layer is perfectly level.

Article on it
http://www.cdnn.info/industry/i021017/i021017.html

more recent update
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1374107/posts
http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=1&click_id=31&art_id=qw1097554324900B252

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/992589/posts
http://www.cuba.cu/ciencia/citma/ama/museo/exmar5i.htm
http://www.cuba.cu/ciencia/citma/ama/museo/exmar6i.htm
http://www.morien-institute.org/adclarge6.html#15

http://www.s8int.com/water1.html
http://www.ambergriscaye.com/pages/town/greatbluehole.html
http://www.pureinsight.org/pi/articles/2003/4/28/1582.html
http://www.s8int.com/atomic1.html
http://www.s8int.com/atomic2.html
http://www.atlantisrising.com/issue18/18bermuda.html

Even National Geographic admits that there are prehistoric civilization submerged under the sea that could shed some light on possibly many flood legends, one of which could be atlantis
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2002/05/0528_020528_sunkencities.html

Article about Plato's description
http://www.cycleoftime.com/articles_view.php?codArtigo=68

http://www.timstouse.com/EarthHistory/Atlantis/bimini.htm

Now, notice how the modern research also points to a sinking land mass, that sunk 2200 feet.
Quote:
Paulina Zelitsky, Ocean Engineer, Advanced Digital Communications, Havana, Cuba: "Samples that we recovered from the ocean bottom have justified our structures that we call megalithic structures. The samples are granite stone, completely polished, with some incrustations of fossils. Fossils of organic creatures that normally live on the surface, not on the ocean bottom. This is very interesting because this is evidence that the whole surface sank to the depth of 700 meters (2,297 feet, or about a half mile down).

The area has been seismically active for thousands of years. And what we find on the ocean bottom are fractures from which the magma and volcanic ash came out. From these structures we were able to delineate a configuration of the land that sank because you can see them clearly. The land that sank is very obvious from our image of the ocean bottom. And you can see bays, like harbors, and it's all at the depths of 900 and 700 meters.

Geologically, does Dr. Iturralde-Vinent and others have any idea what happened volcanically? Was it one large eruption or series of eruptions?

Series of eruptions and as he is saying, it is still active. A series of eruptions that created major tectonic movement to such a degree that land is sinking. For example, Cuba has sank and re-emerged a couple of times! But that was long ago, geologically. Now, what happened more recently geologically is that land sank that joined to Yucatan ­ islands between Yucatan and Cuba, they sank.

Also, geologically and botanically in terms of organic life, Yucatan and Cuba ­ the extreme northwestern part of Cuba which is Peninsula Guanahacabibes (Gwan-uh-cah-BEE-buh) are completely identical. Completely identical. It's the same limestone and the same organic life and the same botanic and animal represented. It's very obvious that land that was joining that is now on ocean bottom is land that was joining Yucatan and Cuba. But this land was sinking because of tectonic movement which were occurring. Of course, earthquakes and volcanoes were accompanying the tectonic movements. Tectonic movement is not something that moves softly. It is always accompanied by dramatic volcano and earthquake activity.

But we saw on ocean bottom where the bays and coastal lines of the island that sank. We think there was a series of islands between Cuba and the Yucatan. There could have been sinking 15,000 years ago.

One area between the fractures. Not on the fractures. It is between the fractures that was left undisturbed and just sank flat without fractures. On this area, we can observe those megalithic structures, or constructions. And they have completely different and independent delineation from geological faults, from our geology of the sunken land, or the geology of island Cuba. Completely independent delineation of their own.





Here is an article which gives some perspective on the events of certain times without mentioning specific names at first, actually there were principles of "buddha" and "Tao" before Lao Tzu or Buddha, but they were key figures for a specific time and cycle. The time periods are not a coincidence though any history is of course hard to exactly pin point-

http://twm.co.nz/energ.html

Quote:


The science and art of medicine that was initially one, and then split into two, are now approaching reunion. The healing science that became traditional medicine and alternate medicine is slowly becoming the healing sciences. The history of this topic is extensive -- extending back thousands of years.

5000 years ago, ancient spiritual tradition of India spoke of a universal source of all life. The energy called prana. This universal energy is the breath of life moves through all forms to give them life. Yogis work with this energy with breathing techniques, meditation, and physical exercise to produce altered states of consciousness and longevity
3,000 years ago, the ancient Qigong masters in China were practicing their meditative discipline to balance and invigorate the human energy field. They called this vital energy that pervades all forms, both animate and inanimate, Qi. The Qi is the vital energy of the body; while gong means the skill of moving this Qi and working with it. Practitioners use mind control to move and control the Qi to not only improve health and longevity, but also to enhance awareness, psychic powers, and spiritual development. The ancient Qigong masters also developed Tai Chi, Kung Fu, and the martial arts. In addition, they made the first model for acupuncture. Acupuncturists insert needles, or use moxa, or put magnets at specific acupuncture points to balance the yin and yang of the human energy field. When the Qi is balanced, the entity has good health. When the Qi is unbalanced, the entity has poor or impaired health.
The Kabbalah, the Jewish mystical teachings written about 538 B.C., calls these energies the astral light. Later on, Christian paintings and sculptures show a halo around the head of Christ and other spiritual leaders. Similarly, we see this halo on statues and paintings of Buddha, and also see energy or light coming from the fingers of many of the gods of India.








Quote:
"This rare cut shows the name of God in seventy-two languages inscribed upon the petals of a symbolic sunflower. Above the circle are the seventy-two powers of God according to the Hebrew Kabbalah. Below are two trees, that on the left bearing the symbols of the planets and that on the right the signs of the zodiac and the names of the tribes of Israel. The esoteric doctrines of the Kabbalah are in alignment with the secret teachings of all the schools of philosophy, but the method by which its secrets are revealed to the wise and concealed from the ignorant is most unusual."



http://www.valdostamuseum.org/hamsmith/LoPan.html


interestinglty enough, the pre-heaven diagram construct in practical use, would be referred to as , possibly, the pre-natal qi diagram, and would have 64 practices based on the prenatal qi diagram. And in modern times, it corresponds to and can be matched to the DNA

http://www.kheper.net/topics/I_Ching/IChing_and_dna.htm
http://www.valdostamuseum.org/hamsmith/ichgene6.html



Info on the I Ching, it's construct, and predictions
http://www.69yinyang.com/index2.html
http://www.69yinyang.com/ICscience/digital11.html
http://www.69yinyang.com/ICscience/ic-frc5.html

Computers are based in I ching principle and so is calculus
http://www.69yinyang.com/ICscience/scientists.html
http://www.gwizdala.art.pl/a3/rgb/hexagramms.php

"In his article Explication de l'Arithmétique Binaire (1703) Gottfried Leibniz writes that he has found in the hexagrams a base for claiming the universality of the binary numeral system. He takes the layout of the combinatorial excercise found in the hexagrams to represent binary sequences, so that |||||| would correspond to the binary sequence 000000 and |||||: would be 000001, and so forth."


Here's another I Ching-


But it isn't limited to the east, that ancient cultures knew advanced things. In the west there was Pythagorean traditions, and monastic orders in some lands, like the Essenes. Really, the universal and spiritual principles handed down to mankind from these tradtions is the base of much of western culture, though much of western culture now is different and impure

The Essenes were the writers of the Dead Sea Scrolls which are the oldest copy known to man of remains of the Old Testament. They weren't found until the 1950s.

They were known to dress in white robes. Bodhisattva's are known to wear white robes.

Some sites with info about the Essenes
http://essenes.net/lifein.html
http://www.crystalinks.com/dss.html
http://www.edgarcayce.org/ancient_mysteries/ancient_index.html

Actual historical acount by a scholar from the time of the Essenes. Doesn't mean everything is exactly accurate, but these historians lived in the same time period

http://members.aol.com/Wisdomway/deadseascrolls.htm
http://www.religiousstudies.uncc.edu/JDTABOR/DSSEssay.htm

Some historical quotes--

Quote:


"They possess nothing of their own, not house, field, slave nor flocks, nor anything which feeds and procures wealth. They live together in brotherhoods, and eat in common together. Everything they do is for the common good of the group. They work at many different jobs and attack their work with amazing zeal and dedication, working from before sunrise to almost sunset without complaint, but in obvious exhilaration. Their exercise is their work. Indeed, they believe their own training to be more agreeable to body and soul, and more lasting, than athletic games, since their exercises remain fitted to their age, even when the body no longer possesses its full strength"

"They neither buy nor sell anything among themselves. They give to each other freely and feel no need to repay anything in exchange. Before sunrise they recite certain ancestral prayers to the sun as though entreating it to rise. They work until about 11 A.M. when they put on ritual loincloths and bathe for purification. Then they enter a communal hall,where no one else is allowed,and eat only one bowlful of food for each man, ! together with their loaves of bread. They eat in silence. Afterwards they lay aside their sacred garment and go back to work until the evening. At evening they partake dinner in the same manner. During meals they are sober and quiet and their silence seems a great mystery to people outside. Their food and drink are so measured out that they are satisfied but no more. They see bodily pleasure as sinful. On the whole they do nothing unless ordered by their superiors, but two things they are allowed to do on their own discretion: to help those 'worthy of help', and to offer food to the needy. They are not allowed, however, to help members of their own families without permission from superiors. They are very careful not to exhibit their anger, carefully controlling such outbursts. They are very loyal and are peacemakers. They refuse to swear oaths, believing every word they speak to be stronger than an oath. They are scrupulous students of the ancient literature. They are ardent students in the healing of diseases, of the roots offering protection, and of the properties of stones. Those desiring to enter the sect are not allowed immediate entrance. They are made to wait outside for a period of one year."

"They believe that their souls are immortal, but that their bodies are corruptible. They believe the soul is trapped in the body and is freed with death. "

"Some of the Essenes became expert in forecasting the future."

"When they enter the sect, they must surrender all of their money and possessions into the common fund, to be put at the disposal of everyone; one single property for the whole group. Therefore neither the humiliation of poverty nor the pride of possession is to be seen anywhere among them."
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