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dcbrownie7



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 5:08 am    Post subject: When I Astral Traveled Something evil was waiting for me Reply with quote

Hello, ASTRAL TRAVEL #2 RECENTLY

Can anyone tell me whats going on. It all started like this, I recently brought some Mugwort because I read that it can help you astral travel. I really do have the ability to AT every night it's just that I was scared to let go because of an incident that happened before. Well I put the Mugwort inside of my pillowcase and ten minutes later while I was falling asleep and boom here comes the vibrations. instead of holding back I let myself go. I came out of my body halfway and I was waiving my arms around to get the feeling before I pulled completely out. Before you know it, this voice just came from nowhere and said very deeply ARE YOU BROKE. I instantly responded with(NO I"M NOT BROKE) A demon like hand reached out and tried to grab my arms and I moved back into my body. What was strange is that I still felt it's presence for about thirty minutes after I was awake. As soon as I was out of my physical body I knew I felt something evil there because I got the feeling that something was not right.

ASTRAL TRAVEL #1

I left my body due to astral travel early in the morning. I actually was successful with this one until the end. I was awake and fully in astral mode. I decided to go to my boyfriends house so I did, I was there in like a split second. Everything was clear and I could see everything as it was. I saw my boyfriend sleeping on his side of the bed. I was floating in the top corner of the ceiling by the closet. I tried to talk to him in his thoughts but he said he don't remember. Anyway I suddenly return to my body for some reason no one was pulling I just went back and when I got back to my body I jump in and before you know it, it was a silver little ugly being holding me down sitting on top of me. Now I'm still fully astral but I am laying in my body so I am looking it right in the face terrified. I had to fight it off. I woke up crying like hell.

QUESTION: Can anybody tell me what's going on and why every time I astral travel something evil is waiting or trying to get me. I asked someone who knew alot about astral travel and they said it was because it don't want me to learn because I was good at it and I could find out alot of information.

I also can see when my eyes are closed. ex. when I'm sleep I can still see the room as if my eyes are open. I hear voices as if they were real loud in my ear. And I also have prophetic dreams that are right on the money. Due to this I guess that's a reason but do anybody have any advice for me because astral travel is something that happen to me almost every night and I don't want to be tired all the time because I'm scared to let myself go. I can't help it. and what does this mean for me. Am I supposed to learn something or what?
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Melchizedek



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 6:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't Astral travel anymore, it could also be a omen, about what may happen to you, when you actually leave the world for good. There might be something evil waiting to take you, for eternity.

You need to seperate yourself, from any and all buried resentments towards people in your past.
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dcbrownie7



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 6:47 am    Post subject: Question! Reply with quote

Why do it want me? I can't even stay mad at somebody long. I am a really loving person and I believe in the lord Jesus Christ. I'm never mean to people and I give. I also teach my children the word. And I never asked for this astral travel every other night. And why did it ask me if I was broke. What do it care if it's where money don't matter. Can something evil take a good person or is they trying to kill me?
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ColinGS



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 1:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

First off, there is just a small difference between astral projecting and being in a dreaming state. AP is where you consciously make your body fall asleep without letting your conscious mind fall asleep, too. I mention this because for now, you should try to keep yourself from APing, so, in case you weren't aware, knowing the natures of both can help in asserting control.

The one you talked to is right, there is a wealth of information you can get from astral projection. When it comes to entities on the astral plane, the larger, scarier ones are typically the weakest. It's those bloody tiny ones that look cute and furry and sweet that are more viscious, but there are always exceptions to every rule.

I would do as Melchizedek says. Stop trying to AP. You can't stop dreaming, so you'll still project, but it won't be conscious projecting. You need to focus on self-change for a while. You have a fear that this creature will do you harm. The more you retain this fear, the more you will attract it. You need to eliminate this thought from you as much as possible and replace it with thought of this creature staying away from you. The more you know and feel this way with both your conscious and subconscious minds, the better off you'll be.

This critter is probably hanging around you and has been for some time. What you need to also do is banish the blighter. You need to use the lesser banishing ritual of the pentagram, the lesser ritual of the hexagram and the middle pillar. I've found these to be a good triplet for advancing yourself, while keeping less beneficial things from you.

You can read up on them here:

http://realmagick.tripod.com/basicrituals.html

Also, read this page, so you can get a better idea of just what is going on, so you can focus your efforts more:

http://realmagick.tripod.com/disturbances.html

You shouldn't try to consciously AP while you are figuring this stuff out. If this git that's attacking you is really an omen, this is something you need to find out, but not with astral projection for the time being. I'd go with divination. You could send a PM to d_redant to find out if there is anyone that he knows of that would be willing to do a reading. Do things, like the I Ching, tarot cards, numerology, astrology. There's a website that I've used before called tarot.com. In my situation, I've have gone through many many divination and div-related processes, which people say is supposed to be pretty much 100% accurate after you get a large variety of readings, but I keep breaking the standard and it never gets above 70-75% accurate, but that is just my situation. Your's will most likely be different. Much of what they offer is software based, but there are only certain ones that cost any money. The free tests are good, too.

Whatever this critter is, whatever bad thing it might represent..you just have to keep faith that it can be overcome and that it will be overcome. If you believe in Jesus and Christianity, in that belief system is also the idea that there is nothing that you will be presented with in life that can't be overcome, that is too much for you to handle.

Slow and deliberate concentration and effort will win out. Also, if you're working with herbs, try myrrh resin. It's associated with consecration, exorcism, protection, healing, spirituality, transformation. You can read more about it here to start your research:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myrrh

Another thing, you should keep open to the possibility that this thing isn't an external entity, but is something that is a subconscious projection of your own mind, which is using the material of the astral plane to make it attack. You aren't sure what it is at the moment, so it isn't good to discount any possibility, which is why I posted the link to that disturbances page. Sometimes, what's thought to be an external thing is an internal thing that's disguising itself as an external entity.

If it were to be an internal thing, the 'broken' part could be from something you think is wrong. The more blatantly obvious one would be for starting with why you astral project almost every night, why you can't keep yourself from doing it and why you have a problem with letting go. If you think you're scared of letting go, you'll self-sabotage yourself with that fear because you're making sure that it would happen. You need to feel certain and know for certain that you won't astral project when you go to bed. That you will just dream and that everything will be fine and you'll be 100% okay.

If it's interal, could it have something to do with your religion? Exploration of that and not fearing whatever may come up from that exploration could also be another key for you to figuring this out. Any and all information that you learn during this exploration will benefit you in this investigation and in pretty much any other situation you'll come across.
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dcbrownie7



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 6:32 pm    Post subject: Thanks so much! Reply with quote

Thank you for the links I will read up on it. But just to talk about my situation a little bit. This astral projection have been going on since age 5. And when I am having a dream it's always the future. I recently lost my crimping irons, two days ago I dreamt they were at my moms house in the bathroom. And they are. I can't help this stuff, that's what I'm saying, even if I try not to AP it still happen. The vibrations are too strong to fight and when I do fight it I wind up being paralyzed until I wiggle my toes which I found a way to get out of it when I was a child. I have seen Jesus in my dreams and I had dreams of being caught up in the rapture. But more like lucid dreaming doing those times. But whenever I let myself go with the flow of normal sleep the AP vibrations come on so strong that it can get overwhelming! I read that people are trying and trying hard to AP. No need for me to try at all this just happens naturally ever since childhood.


It's just that something is trying to get me out there. The first time I AP there was no fear at all whatsoever when that little ugly silver thing was sitting on top of me. This time I was scared because of what happened before so maybe that created that one. But where is my spirit guide ever at. I never see him or her when I do AP.

I won't AP anymore and maybe there is a reason I fought this all my life. The only two times I did do it, it was not a pleasant experience.

I have also been hearing alot of noises around me lately. Something keep tapping on my desk lamp and my tv stand. It want my attention and I don't know why. My boyfriend says he don't hear anything and I am not crazy. My father is a pastor and my brothers and sisters on my father side says they have Prophetic dreams and AP all the time also.

Thank you guys for your help. I will look into myself more for answers. But I do know that I have fear when AP happens because me and evil don't get along and a person or a entity can't persuade me to do anything unless I want to. I am very strong minded and can read between the lines. Something dosen't like me on the AP as well as the physical plane.

Did you ever hear the closer to The Mighty One you get the more of the you know who's mess with you alot. Well that's been pretty it for my life. The lord has sent many blessing my way only for the you know who's to work through other people to get to me. Because they can't get in my mind. I'm not easily tempted to do things. maybe they can't get me physically so they will get me spiritually on the AP.

What is an omen? And can I stop it?
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ColinGS



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 7:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe when you resist, you're trying too hard.

With the sounds, if he isn't hearing it, it may be sounds on a higher plane. Given that you've got some degree of clairvoyance, it could be connected to an increased sensitivity of astral plane level material.

Question though. How is your memory when you project? Is it like when you're awake or is it kinda hazy?
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dcbrownie7



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 8:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ColinGS wrote:
Maybe when you resist, you're trying too hard.

With the sounds, if he isn't hearing it, it may be sounds on a higher plane. Given that you've got some degree of clairvoyance, it could be connected to an increased sensitivity of astral plane level material.

Question though. How is your memory when you project? Is it like when you're awake or is it kinda hazy?



Like I'm wake! Real life no dream. My vision is clear everything is in the same place. ex. Like when I lifted out of body I was watching TV and the same show was on before I laid down. my closet was there and everything. Even my hands when I was waiving them around. Then I seen a gray hand with black long finger nails swoop over and try to grab my hand . At first I heard his voice say ARE YOU BROKE. I took it as BROKE as in no money. Shocked I responded without hesitation because I didn't get scared until I seen the hand and I knew it was not my hand! mY MEMORY IS SHARP WHEN THIS HAPPENS. even in dreams.

what is a Omen?
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ColinGS



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PostPosted: Thu Apr 05, 2007 9:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

An omen is something that fortells something. A material version would be where one smells that the air is different, like it's gonna rain. It could be some other event that you witness or a psychic flash also.

The reason for why people have a hard time remembering dreams or when they consciously project is because they have a low amount of energy when it happens. Increase the level of energy and the clarity increases. Given the ease and clarity you have at remembering it, it makes me think that you might have too much energy. That energy has got to go somewhere and it could be focused into projecting.

Is there any chance you're hyperactive when you're awake, either naturally or through stimulants?

I ask because a well developed ability from a past life wouldn't necessarily cause a hyperactive ability.
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dcbrownie7



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 9:56 pm    Post subject: YES! Reply with quote

I have been drinking energy drinks for the past two years for my work outs and I have been running marathons with my daughter and so on. I'm not really hyperactive but I have high stamina. I can do a 4 hour workout or run 5 miles non stop, not saying that I don't get tired because I do but I can stand it. I'm 25 years old now and this AP is getting stronger by the years.

Another thing Shocked I was about to project again this morning but not on purpose, so I stopped it and controlled it once again but this time instead of waking up I stayed in like what you call the meditation state of mind so I was like in between. I asked my spirit guide to talk to me and she did Smile it was like whispers in my ear I could hear it clearly and she was talking fast. BUT I heard other noises over her trying to block out what she was telling me. I could only hold that state of mind for about 15 minutes and the whole 15 minutes these voices was just making some stupid weird noises that didn't mean anything but to just block her out. She went away and stop talking after a while I guess they was getting on her nerves to.

This all so weird for me because it's not fair that others can talk to their spirit guides and everything else but something or someone is raining on my parade. I mean is it that serious? what is in my future that is so important.

When I get tarot reading a lot of the time they say we can't even see into your future or it haven't been decided yet Shocked I tried to do one myself with the computerized version and two cards would tell me something but the last card would be blank undecided. I think to myself who am I and why.

When I was 4 years old I had this dream every night, 4 little monsters would push me in this cart down a long vacant hallway. I had this dream until I was about 7 years old. Come to find out those 4 little monsters are my children. I have 4 children that resemble the 4 little monsters exactly. This happen at age 4! Please note my children are some little monsters they drive me bonkers Smile

At age 9 I was getting ready for bed and school was in the morning. I'm laying in bed fully awake I just got in. I will never forget this and I still talk about it to this day. Something scratched my back so hard it left scratch marks. No one was there and I know my mom or dad wouldn't do something like that and nobody in the house had those nails to scratch me so sharp. I asked everyone in the house and they thought I was crazy. I thought I was crazy Shocked

Still at age 25 I sleep with a pillow behind my back every night. that really did something to me. remind you this astral projection was still going on since I started to notice it at age 9, I just never let go.

when I go to Church or watch the word channel my AP vibrations really come on strong. Just the other day I was watch ( The path of Jesus Christ) it was around 9:30 am, I watched until it went off and then I laid back down and within 5 minutes the vibrations was so strong it seem like it took me 10 minutes to get out of it. It's like a powerful force that is hard to fight and I struggle with it almost every night if I want to or not.

Just one more thing CollinGS, Something unplugged my computer and the plug is behind my bed but like on the floor. There is no way that can get unplugged unless you bend down and strain your neck to reach under there and unplug it. I have the feeling that "it" don't want me to ask questions about whats going on. It's been hanging around in my room moving cups and tapping on stuff. last night I had a Mcdonalds cup on my computer desk and the cup started shaking itself as if you was shaking it to make the rest of your drink cold. When this stuff happen I'm not even scared because I am gaining knowledge and I know whats up. i know where it is I just can't see it only with AP in the spirit realm. Sometimes I do catch it in the corner of my eyes, it is too quick, you gotta catch him and act like your not looking. I asked it to stop but will not do Evil or Very Mad

Give me more info please! I agree with everything you are telling me and I am totally clueless as if it want me to be. If it could read it's probably trying to read our conversation. I am not thinking out loud while I right this stuff. I'm not that clueless Cool
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 10:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've always heard that these things feed on fear. KNOW that it cannot hurt you and KNOW that you are protected. Also do a search on psychic protection, and burn frankincense and/or white sage. You could also do a banishment but I don't have any knowledge on that...

Just some ideas.
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dcbrownie7



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 06, 2007 11:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Black Cat wrote:
I've always heard that these things feed on fear. KNOW that it cannot hurt you and KNOW that you are protected. Also do a search on psychic protection, and burn frankincense and/or white sage. You could also do a banishment but I don't have any knowledge on that...

Just some ideas.


What happen when your not scared and they come to get you anyway. In my first two post I stated that I Astral traveled with success and even went to a couple of places. Everything was clear as day and I was fully conscious. When I wanted to return to my body I did but to only find a little ugly silver monster sitting on top of me holding my hands down for no reason. Then I got scared. Was not scared at first until then. It attacked me without fear. It installed it. And I felt the pain of it gripping my arms and I felt it sitting on me because I was back in my body but still astral I just didn't wake up yet physically.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 12:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, you've got stamina, so that can be an additional factor, but since you say that you felt strong vibrations after watching a religious show, particularly one called 'the path to jesus christ', that could be a clue. I don't know if it's specifically about him or if it's a show about general christian stuff, but since you felt strong vibes after it, it might stem from a desire for a greater communion with God/Jesus that you're desiring.

Assuming that this blighter is external to you, Black Cat is right. All things need energy. Some will generate it themselves, but many will feed off of the energy of others. Humans do it with plants, ambient electromagnetic energy absorbed to heal the body, etc. so why not them? What type of energy that's consumed will depend on the entity. Some are omni-energetic, others are energy specific. Some are fear, some are lust, some are greed, etc.

If this is an external entity, he wouldn't even need to read. The energy your body's emitting in all the planes is charged with your thoughts. There's a chance that he's just sitting there, taking in the energy you're giving off and is 'reading your mind' that way.

There might be other entities hanging around your place. Do the LBRP, BRH and the middle pillar to help keep them away. The frankincense and sage suggestions by BC are good ones.

For the others trying to screw your communications over, there's something that's taught to military people in case they get captured that's been used in mysticism for a long time. You should create a sacred space. Inside it, nothing can enter unless you want it to. In the military, they teach you to convince yourself that you aren't being held captive, but are really in some other place. This is also something that they teach to people with high stress. Anyway, only what you want will enter the sacred space. Define the shape of the sacred space imagine that there's an energy barrier around the edge of the sacred space that replls thatm. In this case, only you and your spirit guide can be in it. All others will not be allowed in. It's impossible for any others to get in.

The scratch remind me of the nightmare on elm street movies. In this case, it could be something that happened to you on the astral plane and it was so strong that it manifested as an actual scratch in you material body. That's one possibility. Another is something materialized in your room, scratched you and unmaterialized and there might be others I'm not thinking of.

Some things are gonna try to provoke you into feeling an emotion to feed off it. They'll be all grrr and big teeth and slobber and crap, but you just need to not fear them. Another simple thing you could do is imagine that when they try to feed off your energy, they get zapped like flies in a bug zapper or you stuck a really powerful stun gun into them and you see enormous arcs of electricity going around their body, killing them and they turn into dust and dirt, falling away and forever gone.
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Oh yes, Nightmare on Elm Street is such a good analogy... I don't mind telling you I once experienced an attack from a large black spirit while I was asleep (could've been a dream, but in all honesty I believe it was real and that it attacked me b/c of fear that I created myself)... from then onwards I was extremely fearful of going to sleep and I felt like I was actually in a Nightmare on Elm Street-type scenario... frankincense really helped me a lot because it gets rid of fear and also keeps away evil spirits. What I also do these days if I'm meditating or doing a manifestation or anything like that is I create a circle of golden light all around me that protects me. I visualise that I'm emitting it from my right palm as I move around in a circle and it is an impenetrable wall of God's golden light that only certain deities are allowed in. I call upon Jesus Christ, the Virgin Mary, my guardian angel, the power of God and whatever saint I am compelled to call upon (it used to be Padre Pio but now I am inclined to St Jude the worker of miracles)... I know that these deities will absolutely protect me 100%. I do it so that I feel like they are actually there standing around my circle and keeping away all things that are negative.

I would recommend finding something permanent that will get rid of these things that are harrassing you. You have a lot of energy in you so why not use that energy to banish them... you could say something like "in the name of Jesus Christ I banish you, be gone in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit" and imagine yourself emitting powerful golden light that blasts these things completely out of your space... maybe look up some info on this type of thing, because I'm only stating what it is that sounds right to me. I tend to go with my instincts on stuff like this. Is there an angel that you can call upon to get rid of them?

Amethyst crystals are supposed to help with spiritual protection, and dark stones like black tourmaline are used for repelling negative energy. You could also look into that.

Salt mixed into water is supposed to clear spaces, so you could do that and sprinkle it around your room while praying, banishing, etc. Or get hold of some blessed Holy Water and use that.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 2:35 am    Post subject: I prayed when my fear was great Reply with quote

The night after the hand thing I kept hearing the noises that it was making. I prayed to Jesus Christ and asked him and the father to protect me. I asked Jesus to tell almighty to do this for me. It worked, no noise until the next day. At least I got some sleep for that night. it came back though, I guess I have to ask for protection every night. This time I will ask Jesus to banish him with the help of the father. That should do it for good. Prayer work! I really didn't hear any noise and he took my fear away just like that after I was finished praying. I put my energies into it like really concentrate and look through my third eye.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 07, 2007 3:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That sounds great! Ask for the Lord Jesus Christ to banish these things for good so they may never return, connecting with the Divine Holy Light through your third eye, and you could also visualise it happening through your third eye the way I described with the powerful golden light (in Jesus' name) blasting these things into oblivion so they will never come back. Know that it will work, and IT WILL.

Let us know how it turns out.
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