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threewolves · Joined: 30 Jan 2005 Posts: 5

I have been working on being able to pull a pennie our of a candle flame. I have herd of people doing it but I have never seen it done. The process in the way I think it works is yer take a pennie from 5 demension, the dream, by visualizing it in the flame. I herd that when this is done if there is a group of people the whole group can see the pennie in the flame. Once I can see it I should be able to pull it into the third dimension by grabbing the image out of the fire. I know it is possible, now I just have to do it. I am still working on intensifying the image I see in the flame.

TreeTalker · Joined: 30 Jan 2005 Posts: 30 Location: Carmel NY

I never heard of that one. Let us know how it goes. Very interesting.

Rob

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sweetpea · Joined: 06 Feb 2005 Posts: 8

We compare higher dimensions by analogy, i.e. 1D is a shadow of 2D is a shadow of 3D and so on... so, if a point has no parts, a line has no breadth or height, and a plane has no height, then by analogy a cube would have no... what? Time? This would be impossible. If it had no time or duration then we could not observe it; we are constantly moving through time and would have "passed" it before it even existed. So what is the fourth dimension? It's another dimension of space just as is the fifth, sixth, etc. (but I don't say ad infinitum because I think that time may be the "infinite" dimension). The fourth dimension is actually well defined by topology (as are about 20 or so other higher dimensions, although the mathematics become pretty much unreadable after four). Eric is absolutely right about the Klein Bottle, it has no self intersections or singularities in 4D (it is thus said to be "embedded" in 4D). It would have the "non-intersecting" characteristics that a torus has in 3D (the torus is said to be embedded in 3D). Following that analogy we would postulate that the torus would then be self intersecting in 2D, and indeed it is. A knotted sphere is another example of a manifold which is self intersecting in 3D but embedded in 4D (imagine a deflated basketball, it looks like a bowl, if you could somehow pull the "outer skin" of the bottom of the bowl through the inner while keeping the inner bowl intact you'd have a knotted sphere, the surface contour of which would look similar to that of a slightly smaller basketball with a rope, equal in length to the ball's circumference, wrapped around the ball).

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Guest · Posted: Sun Feb 06, 2005 9:53 pm Post subject:

every dimension is for itself 3D! Cool

Draconis · Joined: 16 Mar 2005 Posts: 3 Location: San Jose, Ca.

One theory I keep seeing pop up over and over again is that the way manifestation works is that you are pulling an 'alternate timeline' out of the billions of trillions of timelines that exist in our quantum universe into the one you currently exist in. (The butterfly effect is a perfect example and there was even mention of this in a series of fantasy novels called the Deathgate Cycle where it talked of how Wizards manifested their will through the blending of realities or dimensions)

How you are doing it may be on relationship that the universe/God works with your mind giving the term 'what you focus on, expands' a whole new level of meaning...

I've only been able to manifest a few things through the years but it's been on/off and never an instantanious sort of thing like pulling a penny through a flame though I think it would be an exciting and desireable ability to manifest so quickly, but it's been my observation and learning that manifestations take a little of time because you have to allow reality to 'shift' to your focus.

fighting_shadow · Joined: 16 Mar 2005 Posts: 52

DO THIS IN A CLOSED ROOM!
no doors open, no windows (blinds shut)

This is just a request. If one door is open your beliefs will mix with the beliefs of the world... it doesn't work that way. It'd be easier in a local area (closed). Basic quantam mechanics... I think.

creativejani · Joined: 17 Mar 2005 Posts: 34 Location: London, U.K

I believe one dimension is the dimension of meaning - I find when things work for me, as in manifesting outcomes and even objects, it seems to work because there is a real meaning in that thing for me. As far as my energy is concerned, anyway, meaning is crucial for getting the focus and intensity necessary for manifesting.

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