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pleiadianstar · Joined: 22 Oct 2007 Posts: 7

Hi guys, I have tried this psychic seduction on one guy for a long period, but it seem is not working at all and even giving the opposite effect:-(is it working only on women?? any suggestion??

merlinswingman · Joined: 12 Nov 2007 Posts: 26

pleiadianstar · Joined: 22 Oct 2007 Posts: 7

Fragment · Joined: 22 Nov 2007 Posts: 4

Hello pleiadianstar, I have personally read the book by Amargi Hillier and have to say the techniques work on women. I have personally tried it and it works wonders. However, it does require some basic skill and effort on your part. Meaning, your visualization skills must be good and the "magic touch" he talks about must be very good. I think many more females in this topic have said it doesn't work on male targets so I suppose it is different for males. I do not know this for sure but Amargi says it works for both sexes if I remember. Maybe you should try getting into a more relaxed state of mind (alpha).

From my personal experience I have to say that the technique works. I am not sure about other techniques because I haven't tried any other.

You should also read a book called Psychic Seduction 4 by Joseph R. Plazo. I personally never used the techniques but it is worth looking at.

I think this website gives you the whole book. Read it online.

http://www.geocities.com/mecmirror1/s1.htm

Best of luck of you

- Fragment

Fragment · Joined: 22 Nov 2007 Posts: 4

Hello pleiadianstar, I have personally read the book by Amargi Hillier and have to say the techniques work on women. I have personally tried it and it works wonders. However, it does require some basic skill and effort on your part. Meaning, your visualization skills must be good and the "magic touch" he talks about must be very good. I think many more females in this topic have said it doesn't work on male targets so I suppose it is different for males. I do not know this for sure but Amargi says it works for both sexes if I remember. Maybe you should try getting into a more relaxed state of mind (alpha).

From my personal experience I have to say that the technique works. I am not sure about other techniques because I haven't tried any other.

You should also read a book called Psychic Seduction 4 by Joseph R. Plazo. I personally never used the techniques but it is worth looking at.

I think this website gives you the whole book. Read it online.

http://www.geocities.com/mecmirror1/s1.htm

Best of luck of you

- Fragment

pleiadianstar · Joined: 22 Oct 2007 Posts: 7

AngelVamp · Joined: 09 Jul 2007 Posts: 8

Hello Pleiadianstar,

In my experience, too much intensity is sometimes counterproductive for psychic seduction. The person you are trying to seduce may then unconsciously feel tension and stress emanating from you. Although it may not be easy to achieve, I found that a combination of burning desire and detachment produces the best results. Of course, I don’t know if an excess of intensity was responsible for the opposite effects you experienced, but I can insure you that a detached mindset combined with a burning desire will improve your results. One way to achieve a detached mindset is to cultivate burning desire for one or two other persons at the same time. I wish you the best of success with psychic seduction.

AngelVamp
http://www.vampiretemple.com

Brickmaster · Joined: 11 Nov 2006 Posts: 51 Location: Greece

Dear pleiadianstar,

and all you interested in seduction,

It's been a long time since I last wrote. It's been 13 months from the time I discovered mind power seduction by Amargi Hillier's book.

When I read the book, I used my newly found knowledge on a girl I used to like. I had been working my magic on her for 8 months(!). That's quite a long period of time. Every day for 8 months. The thing that annoys me most is that this thing really worked every time and see was attracted to me, BUT I acted like a jerk!!! Anyway, that's another story.

However, I have gained some really valuable experience through this.
I would like to share with you a part of this experience which cannot be found in any of the books on the subject.

When I begun, I had that strange moral crap torturing my brain. I thought of my powers as mind control. Yet, mind power seduction is not at all mind control, it is COMMUNICATION.

Remember what Amargi says in his book? When you mentally touch the person, you create a very powerful link. Well after 8 months, it becomes a VERY POWERFUL link.

I had reached a point when I could feel her emotions with every passing moment. I would wake up in the morning and I could feel how she felt and if I woke up first, I could feel it when she woke up, a wave of energy striking suddenly through me. I could feel her in the night when she thought about me and I could feel when she finally slept. I could feel her when she was angry and frustrated. In this last case, I had trouble visualizing her. I could she red blasts coming out of her body in my imagination and there was nothing I could do about it. This sometimes could last about a week.

Ok, so what about mind control?

When I started my seduction, I liked her. And even if you don't like someone, when you practice seduction, you come to like him/her. The more mps I practiced on her, the more she liked me AND the more I fell in love with her. I felt helpless at some point (considering that I was a jerk and didn't really know how to approach her). I was just so in love with her.

Mind control is about controlling other peoples minds. Mind power seduction is communication. You project positive emotions. You project love. And you get it all back.

At some point I though that maybe it was that specific girl that I felt so attached to and that it was not really mps that created the emotions within ME.

This was not the case. I had practiced mps on many many other girls and I always got the same communication style emotions. Only recently, when I do mps on a random passerby, do I tell my self to break the connection when I am done. This is very important if you don't want to spend the next one hour thinking about the totally random girl you practiced your skills on.

Now, I have taught some friends mps. I have also passed the knowledge to a female friend of mine, but unfortunately, she was about to start practicing it when she found the whole concept socking Embarassed

and gave it up. So I have never had feedback from women.

However, I have reason to believe that there isn't much difference as to how it works on men.

I believe that if it doesn't work for you, maybe it is because you think of it as mind control. It only worked for me when I just thought of it as communication.

I hope I have helped after all this time.

pleiadianstar · Joined: 22 Oct 2007 Posts: 7

Thank you guys for giving me your precious advices. I quit for a while to practice this mind seduction as I was getting to much obsessed with it, I anyway had the opportunity to make things clear with this person, he showed me his attachment towards me (even if after a little bit of resistence), he acted exactely as I wanted him to. When I practice mind seduction I do not practice it much on a sexual level, but I try to see me and him in a touching and deep soul to soul connection and this is what I've just received in reality. Don't know if it is the mind control or the power of my love for him, but I must admit that something worked here:-)

Brickmaster · Joined: 11 Nov 2006 Posts: 51 Location: Greece

Fragment · Joined: 22 Nov 2007 Posts: 4

Congratulations Brickmaster for having had patience and persistence to go on with MPS for 8 months!!!! Man, the maximum amount I have used it on a specific girl to have her is 3 weeks.

I agree with you about emotions. It is called empathy that's what you gain when you use it on that person and cas you state correctly MPS is about communication as it gives the person freedom of choice contrarily to Mind Control which doesn't.

I am very proud and happy that you managed to keep it for 8 months...Damn that's a long time.

Regarding if it works on men however, I do believe women are much more receptive to these energy stimuli then men because men have sexual thoughts much more often than women and it is boht in our conscious and unsconscious mind however, for most women it is in the major part unconscious. That's why it makes a huge difference when you use MPS on her. It awakens that sexual nature. However, if a girl uses it on a man as men are already aware about their sexual nature it doesn't affect them as much I believe. I know because pleiadianstar is not the first female who says MPS is not working on a certain guy I have also seen other people in different forums (females) posting the same thing.

To me personally, advice I can give for women is actually to go for it speech) without much need for MPS because to tell you the truth I have to say if the guy you want is not a jerk and is easy-going and you know it, you really shouldn't be afraid to approach them. For men to get laid is a chore for women it is a choice. So, it always make a man happy to have women approach him. Men are not receptive to energy as much as women are. If you deliberately try to make them like you it is highly unlikely it will work, to me personally if I liked a girl it always happened unconsciously first. Then it slowly built up.

Regarding you Brickmaster, why acting like a jerk on the girl you love and desire? I used to be a "nice guy" in the past but now I believe to have found a perfect balance in character. You need inner work on yourself to build up confidence and playfulness and to be outgoing as well I think (as I did to myself). I used affirmations and visualization. It works wonders after a while.

Affirmations are great try them. Coupled with visualization it is a winwin combination.

Goodluck! Wink

- Fragment

Brickmaster · Joined: 11 Nov 2006 Posts: 51 Location: Greece

vvek · Joined: 15 Dec 2007 Posts: 4

Dear All,

I am new to the whole concept of MPS. I am glad that I am here in the midst of ppl who have mastered "MPS" with plenty of experience to guide me on my way to learning this art.

I am crazy about this girl for the last 8 months. When I 1st met her I couldn't stop myself starring at her(so very desperate), thats when I started to feel so very different with this one particular girl. I definitely felt some weird force of attraction towards her each time we crossed each other. It even distracted me totally from what I would doing at that time(say when I was with my frnds discussing - I use to start blabbering). I ve never ever in my life felt such a thing with anyone(it was usually high degree of lust, n nvr fails do dissappear as time passes by/ until I speak to that girl). I expected that this will dissappear on its own as time passed by and didnt approach her. But as time passed by I became defenseless. I got addicted to enjoying this wonderful feeling that occured in me each time I saw her.

I was always wondering what dragged me so much into this particular girl, and was very eager to know what was in her mind. I firmly believe that if there is some "unknown element" out there that could make me feel so very madly attracted to this girl, then there should be some way out there for me reciprocate it back and make this into a case of "mutual attraction". This is when I began my quest for this "unkown element" that could lead me to the destination of "mutual attraction".

I started reading about various communication strategies ranging from body language, NLP, Dating tech, hypnosis...etc... The body language tech actually helped me in studying her reaction when we gazed at each other. But I was sure that it was not what I was searching for. I accidentally came accross this Amargi Heller's book on MPS. I was amazed by the content and his ideas, but was wondering whether anyone had actually tried these MPS techniques for real other than the aurthor !!!

Reading thru this complete thread was itself a great experience as such, most of the questions raised about the morality and the ethics aspects of MPS and their justifications/answers given by ppl gave me a good insight (outside the contents of that book for sure). Infact these must have been the questions that I wuould have been searching answers for say after few months down this road. Anyways, now after reading the book I firmly believe that "Visualisation" and the "Magic touch" practised in "Alpha to Theta" state is that element that I was searching for all along.

What i am interested in knowing is: Is there any step by step guide available for actually working this out? Or It would be great if anyone could share your experience on where you started and how reached where you are now.

One more thing I am not sure about: Am very crazy on this particular girl, whom I am taking all these efforts naturally makes me very desperate. And this will end up in MPS technique failing rite? How do I overcome this barrier coz i am not learning this art for fun...!?!?!?!?!?!?

Eagerly waiting for your comments and views...

Cheers
V

Brickmaster · Joined: 11 Nov 2006 Posts: 51 Location: Greece

ok dear vvek,

First of all welcome Wink

Now. It seems that you are really crazy about this girl.....

Sorry to tell you, but that is not so good for you.

I really hate to say this but I think that you are in a mindset that will not help you even if that girl goes twice as crazy about you. I truly hope I am wrong about this but by reading your post, that is what I get.

So before I say anything else would you mind telling me some more
things on the matter. You already said that you know her for about 8 months.

Where did you meet her? (job, friends, university, school, you-name-it....)

Do you see her often?

Have you made contact. (well I'll assume that in the last 8 months and provided that you see her once in a while, you have surely made some contact unless you are Embarassed

like hell!)

And well, anything else you can tell us than can help us form a general "image" of the situation in our minds is going to help a great lot....

Actually this is not really mps and some could say that we are going off topic if we are trying to help someone establish a relationship. BUT I believe that this is all about mps. Remember Amargi saying to devote and invest equal time and effort to personal advancement? If one doesn't acquire the proper social skills and mindset there is little he can do with mps alone.

You might have already realized this while reading through the thread and I believe that all this is really important since the technical matters have been covered again and again.

So please post and let us know. I believe there is much we can do to help and I would really doing whatever I can in terms of offering experience and knowledge on the subject.

wish you all the best ....

Brickmaster · Joined: 11 Nov 2006 Posts: 51 Location: Greece

ok dear vvek,

First of all welcome Wink

Now. It seems that you are really crazy about this girl.....

Sorry to tell you, but that is not so good for you.

I really hate to say this but I think that you are in a mindset that will not help you even if that girl goes twice as crazy about you. I truly hope I am wrong about this but by reading your post, that is what I get.

So before I say anything else would you mind telling me some more
things on the matter. You already said that you know her for about 8 months.

Where did you meet her? (job, friends, university, school, you-name-it....)

Do you see her often?

Have you made contact. (well I'll assume that in the last 8 months and provided that you see her once in a while, you have surely made some contact unless you are Embarassed

like hell!)

And well, anything else you can tell us than can help us form a general "image" of the situation in our minds is going to help a great lot....

Actually this is not really mps and some could say that we are going off topic if we are trying to help someone establish a relationship. BUT I believe that this is all about mps. Remember Amargi saying to devote and invest equal time and effort to personal advancement? If one doesn't acquire the proper social skills and mindset there is little he can do with mps alone.

You might have already realized this while reading through the thread and I believe that all this is really important since the technical matters have been covered again and again.

So please post and let us know. I believe there is much we can do to help and I would really doing whatever I can in terms of offering experience and knowledge on the subject.

wish you all the best ....

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