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vvek
Joined: 15 Dec 2007
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 Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 3:54 pm Post subject: Apologies for not being clear enough... :-( |
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10x for yor concern Brickmaster.
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Sorry to tell you, but that is not so good for you.
I truly hope I am wrong about this but by reading your post, that is what I get.
So before I say anything else would you mind telling me some more
things on the matter. You already said that you know her for about 8 months. |
U are absolutely correct. My previous post wasn't clear enough.
8 months back: This girl is from my work place, both of us are from diefferent departments though. At our organisation we have a general communication meeting held daily. Employees from all the departments assebble here: This is where I 1st saw her(My eyes got glued to hers.,,,she also gave it back). I generally use to skip this meeting. We crossed each other not more than once in a day then(very randomly). I use to feel something very weird in me only when I crossed her. I was OK otherwise(Not much contemplation). It dint even occur to me to approach her. Almost 4 months passed by this way.
4 months back: I attended this communication meeting after a long time(cant remember why I decided to go). She attends this meeting regularly. This is when it again started, She was there jus opposite to me and all of a suddent looked so very gorgeous. I jus couldn't stop myself from staring at her, she noticed it and she gave it back. This was twice as powerful than the 1st time. I enjoyed the weird feeling so much that I started to attend the meeting daily. This is the only time I can hav a good look at her(there was no chance otherwise). I spotted a very comfortable location in the meeting hall for me to hav a good look at her(also took car that she doesnt notice me gazng at her). There were lots of times that she 1st looked at me.(This was even more enjoyable). Even now it never occured to me to talk to her. If it was my usual feeling for a good looking girl it should have faded away by now, but it didn't. Instead I started enjoying this so much that I wanted to do nothing but jus keep looking at her. Again I use to think about her only 5 mins before, during n 5 mins after the meeting. I was OK otherwise(Parallely I was trying for job oppurtunities elsewhere and was totally on it). This went on for 3 solid months...uffff...
1 month back: My dept was being renovated, so we all had to temproarily move to another place. And this is where the most weirdest of thing happened. Guess what...!?!?!?! I was given a seat in a cubicle where she was diagonally opposite to me. This is wher I became totally defenseless n fell for her completely. It was so hard for me to concentrate on my work. The 1st week went on miserably... I then got a very nice offer elsewhere(a perfect break  ) I have almost 4 more months to join in the new organisaton. This is when I decided to go for her....finally... I dint wanna screw this one by any chance.
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| And well, anything else you can tell us than can help us form a general "image" of the situation in our minds is going to help a great lot.... |
Well ya I did make a contact (he he). After reading loads of material on bodylanguage and stuff, i was eager to learn if I could get any reaction from her. There was some problem with power suplly to my monitor for which the plug point was located near her seat. I stood up and asked her directly looking into her eye if she could adjust the plug of my monitor. She started to blabber for some reason(i seriously have no idea)... she became very nervous and couldnt get a word of what i spoke. I helped her by repeating my statement in a very cool and composed manner. She ran out of words this time too...!!! her colleague came to her rescue and solved the problem. I had a felling that eagerness was mutual b/w us... but I cant make a judgement based on this. From this point onwards when we cross each other or accidentally gaze at each other she looks at me for a while and immediately looks down. Also started to get a little comfortable from this point. I also started interacting with her friend: I strike a conversation with her friend when they both are together. This girl started to show signs of nervousness n stuff(like during the conversation with her friend she looks at me while I am not looking at her and turns her head down when I notice it)
Meanwhile using my contacts in the Human Resourse Dept, I got some details about her: she is SINGLE, very reserved initially but once the ice is broken she starts to get along very well... shes extremely hard working, self made person, doesnt flirt with strangers that easily, she has her own self identity n a lot more good things...
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Actually this is not really mps and some could say that we are going off topic if we are trying to help someone establish a relationship. BUT I believe that this is all about mps. Remember Amargi saying to devote and invest equal time and effort to personal advancement? If one doesn't acquire the proper social skills and mindset there is little he can do with mps alone.
You might have already realized this while reading through the thread and I believe that all this is really important since the technical matters have been covered again and again. |
I knew I was going off the topic (esp the subject that I had used). Yet i posted here since this thread was about success of ppl with MPS tech and all the "professionals" where actively participating in this one dealing with various aspects of iMPS's success. I thought I could make the maximum use of this by briinging my case to everyone's notice here. Seriously I believe in learning from successful ppl's mistakes.
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| So please post and let us know. I believe there is much we can do to help and I would really doing whatever I can in terms of offering experience and knowledge on the subject. |
I dont have words to describe how nice it felt when I read your post. While I drafted my 1st post I was a in a negative frame of mind(Gosh,,, I sounded like a total loser... ) Well now when I recap this post theres nothing much negative about my story so far... actually she has already started to show nervousness from her side...
My strength and weakness is tat I am always used to do things right the 1st time. I take all efforts no matter whatever it takes for me to succeed the 1st time... Thats how it has been in my professional life... so far so good... This habit is is an integral part of me now and the darker side is I am too very sensitive to failures...
Well I once again thank you Brickmaster for giving me chance to vent out my feelings... After typing in so much about my feelings, it makes me feel soo very good at this point. I guess I ve totally emptied my recycle bin...finallyyyy... |
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Brickmaster
Joined: 11 Nov 2006
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| Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 11:41 pm Post subject: |
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| My strength and weakness is tat I am always used to do things right the 1st time. I take all efforts no matter whatever it takes for me to succeed the 1st time... Thats how it has been in my professional life... so far so good... This habit is is an integral part of me now and the darker side is I am too very sensitive to failures... |
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Yes I immediately noticed that you did an extensive research on the subject and that could have been because of two reasons.
1st You have a very very low self esteem and you are really shy and think that if you read a ton of fancy books, you will get what you really want even though you are a loser....
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2nd You are a perfection maniac. You chose what you want and then start acting. You never leave things to be decided by "chance" and you study thoroughly every new subject you are confronted with because you believe that there is no sense in re-inventing the wheel and re-discovering fire.......
From what you have said so far, I tend to believe that you fit in the second category. That is what I do all the time when I am confronted with a challenge new to me.
It was nice reading your post. I certainly have a more clear image in my mind now.....
But I forgot to ask you   have you done any mps on her yet and if yes is there anything interesting you have noticed? |
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vvek
Joined: 15 Dec 2007
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| Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 1:24 am Post subject: |
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2nd You are a perfection maniac. You chose what you want and then start acting. You never leave things to be decided by "chance" and you study thoroughly every new subject you are confronted with because you believe that there is no sense in re-inventing the wheel and re-discovering fire.......
From what you have said so far, I tend to believe that you fit in the second category. That is what I do all the time when I am confronted with a challenge new to me. |
OMG... that was Bang On
Seriously.... where are you typing this from...??? inside me!!!?!??!?!
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| But I forgot to ask you have you done any mps on her yet and if yes is there anything interesting you have noticed? |
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Nope. I read Amargi's MPS only couple of days back. Once again quoting from my 1st post
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| What i am interested in knowing is: Is there any step by step guide available for actually working this out? Or It would be great if anyone could share your experience on where you started and how reached where you are now. |
+1) Did you hav a routine while you started to practice MPS initially?
+2) Also how do i reach the Alpha-theta state where these techniques will workout perfectly...????
+3) Which Method/Tools/Softwares have you used to get down from beta to these states??? |
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Brickmaster
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Location: Greece
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| Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 1:36 am Post subject: |
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Sorry, It's been a while since I last posted. I have some problems keeping me busy....
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OMG... that was Bang On
Seriously.... where are you typing this from...??? inside me!!!?!??!?! |
No I'm typing it from inside me...... I am addicted to perfectionism, even though some times it is bad for my health, so I know how you feel.
Now to the point.
If I had to guess, I would guess that you have never practiced anything that has to do with mind powers. Therefore, and from what you say, I assume that you have never practiced relaxation. Relaxation is all you need to get in alpha.
If you focus on it the first time (which you will, cause you pay attention to these things and you don't like rushing through the procedure) it's going to be a piece of cake and soon enough you'll get used to it. Don't bother with Method/Tools/Software just yet.
However, don't overdo it. I agree with Hillier, proceed with the techniques and don't lose all day on relaxing.......
As far as the techniques are concerned, it has been covered in the book. Start practicing (if not already, since I haven't replied in a while...) and we can discuss your questions on what you have experienced.
As for the routine, when I started, I was totally obsessed with the concept and thus practiced twice a day for 45 min approximately.
I did not devote equal time to self improvement (although my hole interest was in self improvement and I approached mps as a totally new horizon so I won't blame myself about that). Later I became interested in actual self improvement and more of the lost arts discussed in this forum. I always believed that the real goal of the book was towards this direction.
I did not really focus on scenarios, most of the time I just kept the stuff going in my brain until I felt there was some king of climax (with her having an orgasm maybe, but I'll never know.) Then I sometimes tried to imagine us, together in some kind of situation, but I wasn't good at it at that time and I never focused on it. I believe it was a mistake. I believe it was an important procedure so don't make the same mistake neglecting it. It plays an important role in forming the kind of relationship that will manifest.
I think I've said too much and I believe that there is not much more to be said before you start practicing.
So, I wish you all the best. |
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vvek
Joined: 15 Dec 2007
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| Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 10:28 am Post subject: |
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Nice to see you posting again...
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| If I had to guess, I would guess that you have never practiced anything that has to do with mind powers. Therefore, and from what you say, I assume that you have never practiced relaxation. |
Thats correct.
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Relaxation is all you need to get in alpha.
If you focus on it the first time (which you will, cause you pay attention to these things and you don't like rushing through the procedure) it's going to be a piece of cake and soon enough you'll get used to it. |
In this area I ve started to become consious of my breathing as and when it strikes me(standing in Q, travelling...etc)... I am practicing breathing in a rhythmic manner i.e. in a count of 1-8 when I breath IN, Hold, Breath OUT resp... I start with a fast tempo intially and then decrease the tempo taking deep breaths.
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| As for the routine, when I started, I was totally obsessed with the concept and thus practiced twice a day for 45 min approximately. I did not devote equal time to self improvement (although my hole interest was in self improvement and I approached mps as a totally new horizon so I won't blame myself about that). Later I became interested in actual self improvement and more of the lost arts discussed in this forum. I always believed that the real goal of the book was towards this direction. |
I couldnt agree with you more. I don practice ith a fixed schedule/routine, but I do it as and when feel like doing it. I started this whole thing only with the real goal of MPS, but now I feel that I shud also paralelly concentrate on self improvement for my career(I am changing career lanes and doing a lots of stuff in that direction also). I dont know how to use this relaxation/techniques for self improvement?!?!?!?!
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| I did not really focus on scenarios, most of the time I just kept the stuff going in my brain until I felt there was some king of climax (with her having an orgasm maybe, but I'll never know.) Then I sometimes tried to imagine us, together in some kind of situation, but I wasn't good at it at that time and I never focused on it. I believe it was a mistake. I believe it was an important procedure so don't make the same mistake neglecting it. It plays an important role in forming the kind of relationship that will manifest. |
Point noted. When I am able to do the deep breathing comfortably for a while I start to visualise abt the girl. But unlike Hiller said I found it easy to start visualising real life encounters that both of us wud experience once we end up in a relationship, like doing something sensible (when she least expects it) from her point of view that wud turn her completely ON(mainly those small moments that lovers cherish). And now that shes turned ON, i visualise her approaching me 4 sex. And only now I get into the actual part of giving her oral orgasm and stuff. I try to take it slowly one at a time. I see it like a movie, the camera being my eyes(I am not sure wthr this is the way to do it!?!?!?). Anyways now it has been a week I am into this and I am starting to think of different situations in which I end up in surprising her and turning her ON. When I am doing this visualising stuff I touch the tip of the index finger with my thumb.
I finally approched her: That day only 2 of us where there in that room. I said "Hi" and started a conversation, and asked her if she could help translate me some english text into her mother tongue. She said "yes" and then I sent an email in which the topic of the text which I needed translation was about her fav movie star. I initiated and ended the conversation decently.
Later when I was about to leave the off for the day,,, I noticed that we were again alone in the room, so I again started with "Hi" and asked her wther she recieved my mail... and then it went on... successfully ended up in making her speak about herself. All of a sudden, right in the middle of the conversation (while she was talking) she ended the conversation saying "I have to go" That was very weird...!?!?!?!
I assumed this was a sign of resistance from her part (shes an orthodox Muslim and I am not) so the next day I i conciously dint do the visualisation part. But she was showing very different signs like: speaking very loudly than normal to her colleague(who was sitting next to her), she roamed around here and there near my seat(totally restless), and this one was very weird: The hall was very calm, I was murmerring some tune, while she went pass me from behind she started to murmer some tune(is it mere coincidence!?!?!?). I ve never seen her doing that b4.
Her signs are very contrary: she acts totally different when speak to her directly (even in my early posts I mentioned abt this). Rite now for past 3 days I ve temroarily stopped everything.
Now I dont know whthr this is the result of me practicing MPS?
If so shld I continue to do it i this particular case???
BTW does MPS show results within less than 1 week of practise???????
What do you feel should be my next move??? |
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Brickmaster
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| Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 3:20 pm Post subject: |
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ok. Here I am again.
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| I dont know how to use this relaxation/techniques for self improvement?!?!?!?! |
You will be doing mps and as time passes the relaxation which you use as a means for your mps work will help your mind host some strange thoughts like "why am I here" and "is this real" or "what is real?"
these kind of questions will arise naturally as will the answers to the questions and you may come to discover great things about the world and yourself during these times of deep relaxation.
I believe that is what most people call meditation. Anyway, it is what happens to me.
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| (I am not sure wthr this is the way to do it!?!?!?) |
Nobody actually is. You have to see what works for you. The basic stuff is the same but it is up to u to find what exactly suits you. So don't worry about this, just experiment.
And experimentation is what I would suggest when dealing with resistance. You can stop for some time as you did and then strike again more intensively. You can also just continue as usual and just be patient until she "breaks" and gives you a chance to act. And basically everything that amargi says about resistance makes sense and could be adopted. Again see what works for you.
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| Now I dont know whthr this is the result of me practicing MPS? |
Yes. If see adopts a belief system in which you and any other guy are not in and then all of a sudden, she starts having fantasies towards you... well it becomes a HUGE problem. She has to chose between what she really wants (you) and what she thinks she is OBLIGED to do (religion, stereotypes). This leads to contradiction.
If it really is like this and she has this religious barrier in front of her there will be two worlds fighting inside her.
The best thing you can to is to adopt a playful approach. It makes things less complicated. It focuses on the beauty of the moment where stereotypes do not exist.
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| BTW does MPS show results within less than 1 week of practise??????? |
Definatelly. Amargi states that the subject will feel it even the first times, even on a subconscious level.
From personal experience I have this to say:
I was reading (devouring) the book and I was all the way to the second chapter. At some time I paused and I thought that I absolutely had to try this. I had to see for myself not really because there was any doubt in me but because I just wanted to experience it there and now. So I stopped to think of a subject... A girl I liked. It didn't take me much time. I had found her. But there was a problem. I had absolutely no idea what the techniques were. So I just sat down and imagined how it might me to wield such power. I imagined my self seducing that girl. That very moment, a close friend of mine was asleep and he saw the strangest dream only to tell me half an hour later. He saw me in his dream telling him that I had f***** that girl. And he thought it was strange cause I had never said that I liked her........
I had just about enough. I had gone totally mad. It was like waking up from the matrix!!!!!!
Anyway, the next day I read about the techniques and I wasted no time. I believe I had done 2 or 3 sessions before I saw her. From that day and on, she showed a phenomenal interest in me, she became very talkative. Soon enough we were spending a lot of time together. I just couldn't believe it. We had been classmates for 6 years and we never spoke to each other. And within less than a week we had discussed every possible subject she could think of!
So you get the idea. This stuff works. No comments on this one.
And from what you write I see it has also worked for you. And all the contradiction indicates that it has worked pretty well so far.
So, find a way to deal with the resistance and try to approach her in a playful non-threatening manner. Keep it up and keep us posted.
P.S. Have you monitored YOUR OWN emotions since you started practicing mps? Try noting your emotional situation before and after you start your sessions. Your emotional situation when you wake up and when you go to sleep. Your emotional situation when see her. It may be considered as the first step to understanding telepathy and empathy. |
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Brooke
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| Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 12:44 am Post subject: Not working for me |
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Hi all
Can someone please help me. I have been trying mind power seduction on a colleague for nearly a month now, but havent got any results so far.
What could i be doing wrong?
I spent close to an hour everyday and follow the instructions in Amargi Hillier's book. I actually just want to be friends with him, but i do the erotic seduction that amagi talks about in his book.
Can someone please help me? |
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Brooke
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| Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 12:45 am Post subject: Not working for me |
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Hi all
Can someone please help me. I have been trying mind power seduction on a colleague for nearly a month now, but havent got any results so far.
What could i be doing wrong?
I spent close to an hour everyday and follow the instructions in Amargi Hillier's book. I actually just want to be friends with him, but i do the erotic seduction that amagi talks about in his book.
I am a girl trying to seduce a guy.
Can someone please help me? |
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