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mark25 · Joined: 01 Mar 2008 Posts: 47

Hi,

Which of the two methods is the best? because I have read the two books, and although they have things very similar (almost copied) the two differ in the method, and the brain state to do the method.
Which are your experiences? which worked better, or faster?

Thanks

GodWolf · Joined: 09 Jan 2008 Posts: 42

I've studied both. Both work (even if the updated PS says that the first technique is outdated...it still works and is a basis for everything else.)

It's like comparing Karate and Taekwondo...both seem different, and have different emphases, but the result is quite similar.

However, if you are a beginner to all this MPS stuff, amargi's good for introduction and a base.

If you want more advanced techniques to study, then try Joe Plazo's book.
(with Plazo, consistency is needed for mastery of the advanced stuff...and a lazer beam focus,also.)
TWO WARNINGS:
1. square away your morals before even starting, because this stuff will work and if you have conflicts with your conscience, then you results will be altered.

2. Be careful in using this stuff, because even though it works, if you are not careful or precise enough, your result may reverse or dissipate altogether.You must have a good focus.

If you study either one, do so wholeheartedly, or you are better off not wasting time with it at all. DO NOT HALF ASS THIS STUFF.

mark25 · Joined: 01 Mar 2008 Posts: 47

Thanks for advice.

My goal is only one girl, witch which I had a relationship, to back with her and be in a long term relation, so I am not seeking about be a master in the advance techniques in plazo's book about seduction in public places, alter brain state with open eyes by anchors, ...
I want to develop only the first part of the book, this is a seduction at distance, with meditation. Regarding to this, what would be better, alpha state with visualization of seduction, sexual estimulation like in amargi's book, or theta state (or schumman freq.) with visualization of seduction and sexual estimulation and the organ heating method like in plazo's book?

GodWolf · Joined: 09 Jan 2008 Posts: 42

Try it with only meditation and concentration. Using breainwave entrainment with theta can help, but you might just go to slee or your thoughts may drift. Amargi makes a good point in using only "internal radionics" or "internal technology". Amargi's way is good for practice. Plazo is more of a "grandmastership" path of total MPS. Amargi shows what can happened if you take the techniques and just use rote mastery...not too much philosophy. Plazo is like..."Here is how far you can take the techniques...and here are some more to build a wonderful repertoire of MPS techniques."

Amargi. You'll get the girl. Just remember...if you are doing the techniques...confidence, focus, present-tense state, magic touch, and relaxation.

No tenseness. No wanting. No distractions. Practice the techniques, and marvel at their effectiveness.

mark25 · Joined: 01 Mar 2008 Posts: 47

Thanks!, I'll go with amargi, but with brainwave entraiment at first because its very hard for me to alter my brain state, even with brainwaves too.

I read too in the two books, that you have not to aruse yourself when you visualize the seduction, but I tried and I cant avoid to aruse myself Razz

ther is any trick?

GodWolf · Joined: 09 Jan 2008 Posts: 42

Trick? Well, like Plazo says in his tome, you must have a clinical position when doing the techniques. Getting aroused will only help in the connection and the magic touch as it was happening. THe only danger is that when you get too aroused, you excite yourself out of your Alpha state, which will break the connection and turn your thought into fantasy. So...simply, don't arouse yourself much. One key is to place yourself in a state where you can't be influenced by any external stimuli(i.e.., you are unable to "feel" your body. You must feel as if you are "pure existence". You are only a mind, absorbed within itself in this state. Trust me when I say that it will take a while to reach it, so brainwave training will help.)

If you feel aroused,try and channel that energy towards your seduction session. Sorry...I don't know how to do that myself because I have learned to not get aroused...and even then I slip up! But I know that if you are aroused, it is partly ok, because it "tricks" your subconcious into appearing real, and will give more of a bond to your target.

MPS is a wonderful thing to study, but an arduous practice to master. Even to get expertise in it takes alot. But be consistent and you will acheive what you desire.

mark25 · Joined: 01 Mar 2008 Posts: 47

It's hard not to get aroused even with clinical position Laughing

but I'll try it.
So by now, like I don't want to be a master in this, only practical to one specific situation, I suppose that it won't take me so much time, although the consistence and dedication have to be the same in all cases.

thanks!

mark25 · Joined: 01 Mar 2008 Posts: 47

I have one more question in this topic.

It's told that when she is sleeping mps works better, but if she's sleeping, and dreams with you, she can remember the dream or not, but anyway, she could consider this dream one more, like if she dreams with brad pitt or mr. bean. I think it removes reality to the thing, because it's "only a dream".

what you think?

GodWolf · Joined: 09 Jan 2008 Posts: 42

who told you that when she sleeping mps is better? that's is clearly not the case. mps works on her whether she is asleep or awake. it doesn't matter when you do it.

\and even if it was only a "dream", that dream is a window to the subconcious mind...remember what was taught to you about alpha, theta and beta waves. when asleep, she is between beta and theta and alpha.

\but it doesn't matter. \do it whenever, whereever. it'll work.

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