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Luluwa · Joined: 03 Mar 2006 Posts: 74

I'm honestly surprised you don't know what the Lesser Key of Solomon is. Google turns up good results. Here's the wikipedia page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lesser_Key_of_Solomon

I'm not sure why you would imagine you would be doing some good by "hunting" demons. It's not like movies or japanese cartoons. Demons aren't some fleshy creature in another dimension that you can just slay.

For better ideas of the evocation process and an idea of what can happen from making pacts/deals, read The Practice Of Magical Evocation by Bardon. In fact, read Initiation Into Hermetics first, practice with it, and then read P.M.E. to get an idea of what it takes to do a summoning right. (And then look up all the errors in the P.M.E., because even as good a book as it is, it has them) You might have only been dealing with thoughtforms up until now but if you don't know what you're doing and get a real entity to show up, you could be in for a lot more than you can handle, and there will be no one to save you.

A lot of information on the subject is incomplete and irresponsibly published (probably under the assumption that people who believe in this stuff are crazy or nobody is going to try the methods anyway). I don't mean any disrespect to your abilities or experience as a summoner, but it would be irresponsible of me if I said nothing.

Good luck upon your path.

nee · Joined: 10 Sep 2007 Posts: 8

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[quote="Luluwa"]I'm honestly surprised you don't know what the Lesser Key of Solomon is. Google turns up good results. Here's the wikipedia page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lesser_Key_of_Solomon

I'm not sure why you would imagine you would be doing some good by "hunting" demons. It's not like movies or japanese cartoons. Demons aren't some fleshy creature in another dimension that you can just slay.

I dont 'slay them'. I find demons using my abilities or by signs or catch word of one and then I kill them. Admitably its not as easy as it sounds and no they are not made of flesh but that does not mean you cant kill them. Secondly I know full well about the lesser keys and many other grimoires it just slipped my mind seeing how I havnt read them in years because I found better methods. Trust me lady you dont need to say anything I know what I'm doing.

Anonymous · Guest

Oh and I do happen to know they aren't thought forms. I know about thought forms and a lot about the supernatural and I've stood my ground against many entities and I know you didn'mean to seem condescending so its not a problem Im not mad. I know there are a lot of amateurs who dont know what they're doing but I've expiered my kundalini awakening or as the budhists knew it as enlightenment or the reiki practioners call it cosmic activation and I have already listed my gifts I believe earlier and have a very good hold on them so worry not about my activities.
Peace be with you.

Walms · Joined: 04 May 2008 Posts: 18 Location: México

Question... Why kill them? its not like anyone has bothered on asking them why they do what they do...

Anonymous · Guest

I don't "kill" them because they've never lived. Its just a more simplier term than explaining how to negate their energy to make them sease to exist. And they do what they do because they are pure evil, dark energy with a mind. They do bad things for the same reason an angel would do good things. "Good" people do things because they put others before themselves, so the oposite would be doing bad things for self profit, which is why they do what they do.

Walms · Joined: 04 May 2008 Posts: 18 Location: México

You know... that sounds so selfish, if you put it in other terms it would go like this "I make them sease to exist so then I can feel ok for saving people" Wich would be a "bad" thing done by yourself, as a demon could be put like this "I'm doing bad things so there I can protect the ones I care about, even tough others will try to destroy me" then they would be doing "good" Its just a matter of perspective used on the porpuse one want it <.< Plus darkness =/= bad as light =/= good

Anonymous · Guest

ok you're an idiot. I destroy them because they seek death and destruction and want to make people misserble. I do it because they normaly find me and try to brake me down in more ways than you know possible. They don't want to help or protect anyone but themselves and you would know that had you ever actualy encountered one. Yeah maybe on a philisophical stand point good and evil seem alike but doing everything for yourself and taking great pleasure from the downfall of man definatly is by no means something I'm going to sympathize for.

Walms · Joined: 04 May 2008 Posts: 18 Location: México

lol I knew it sounded silly, tough your still seeing in from your own perspective... Do you think a demon/other life form, finds funny that humans kill them? Obviusly, since your human you find that wrong, yet I don't see your need of insults, and how do you know they protect nothing seek destruction or death? Ever asked?
Now that they try to hurt you is a whole dif thing, if instead of a "philisophical" stand you said that, it would be a whole different story <.<
And yes, your point was "philisophical" instead of your own opinion, I don't see why you didn't said that at the start.

Anonymous · Guest

Sorry I was in a bad mood I shouldnt have been rude and Yes I have talked to them, when they tr to attack someone they start out psychologicaly by getting into your mind and first start suggesting things to make you question your own judgement,religion,sanity etc., but if you can recognize their tricks after awhile and play their "game" they'll start talking to you(telepathicaly) and will begin to break you down using your greatest strenghths and turning them into your greatest weakness. From what I understand they don't like good people and will target them if they find the right person they'll break you down like I said and then will gradualy progress to breaking you down mentaly and emotionaly until you give and thats when they posses you. The battle between good and evil is as old as time and regardless of who started it evil seeks to destroy good,and only then does the light take action. I dont go out looking for a fight or for a demon to destroy.My mentoir once told me that the most powerful weapon against anything evil is the power of pure unconditional love and i never knew what that meant until awhile after, my first demon found me and when I discovered the power of the light I killed the demon in the process. It was the most amazing feeling, the light I felt. It felt pure and strong because I called it while chaneling my feelings for someone who was really important to me, and I could feel a massive energy flow and it augmented my gifts so much that I opened my eyes and could see right through my door like it was made of glass, and although Im used to seeing into the future from time to time, it was definatly interesting. What I expierenced has many names, the Reiki know it as Cosmic Activation, the Christians believed it to be angels and their prophets and saints expierenced this, the Budhists knew it as enlightenment, and every other culture had a different name for it and those who expierenced them. Whatever you want to call it, it is escentialy one connecting to the higher power,collective thought, or what ever the divine powers that be are, and I know the light as well as I know the darkness, and the light only seeks to make a move when it is nesasary.

Logarith · Joined: 17 Feb 2008 Posts: 141

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Hey is your mentoir professor shut the fuck up? Cuz Im pretty sure I didn't ask you dumb ass.

CJ · Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 3:03 pm Post subject:

Logarith · Joined: 17 Feb 2008 Posts: 141

Listen samba, chill out. I was trying to add a little bit of comic relief to the situation, but I see now that you are not capable of civilized conversation. That language was really not necessary. I agree with CJ, do try to learn about something before you attempt to do it. What you do is very much like trying to bake a souffle without a recipe and just using some random ingredients you found in your basement pantry.

~ROBO~

Anonymous · Guest

Ok both of you are idiots, I have delt with them PERSONALY and it isnt bad to do something for yourself but living only for yourself is evil and it is what they do. And I never said I was fully enlightened just gong through the expierence and I can talk however I want to because I have too much shit going on to care what the fuck you think. I don't seek to destroy all of them, like I said I only attack upon being attacked which I have been many times. Demons lie and they would love for you to believe they want to help you but they'd only really help you if there was something in it for them. They brought me into the fight and I have no intention on leaving because you two jack asses think that maybe demons aren't so bad and you'd only believe that if you havn't been through what I have so I have earned the right to insult you because I KNOW WHAT THEY ARE. Not a notion but I KNOW. Sure maybe some have the capacity to be good seeing how if angels can fall demons can rise but the majority are evil and I have every right to kill every last one that tries to harm me.
And I only got really rude and told him to shut the fuck up because I thought he was being a smart ass mocking my mentor.

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