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Mind power seduction by Amargi Hillier


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GodWolf



Joined: 09 Jan 2008
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 8:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

After 2 months continous practice,you should have good focus. It's time to lengthen the sessions. The longer you make them, the more erotic they are for the target. I know that my 1st did not return to me because I didn't lengthen the sessions. try that.
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r0wl



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2008 10:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have something to talk with MPS users.

Plazo in Psychic seduction 4, as A. Hiller, said that the important big thing is the Visualization (yes with the feeling touch). Now Im start reading Psychic seduction 5 and I read this:

"The Visualization Method dates back prior to the Renaissance and was conducted as a means to generate remote emotional attraction. In actual practice however, this basic technique wields very little power. Fromncountable user feedback, the various targets manifested minimal response only after numerous repeated and intense visualizations. On an added note, prolonged visualization can be very draining to the seduction artist! The human mind appears to have evolved and resists this ancient method of seduction.

The effectiveness rating is 2%, rather meager! Five thousand years ago when man communicated through guttaral sounds and telepathy, the
Visualization Method would have generated more impact. We have already lost a great deal of that facility. Use of the Visualization Method, henceforth is not recommended. I urge that practitioners treat the Visualization Method as a history lesson... the mother technique which predates all other existing psychic seduction techniques in existence. Other methods of seduction which follow provide far greater and more rapid result.

Bottomline: skip this technique. It's inherent weakness makes it not worth the effort. File it away in your mind
as a history lesson. The succeeding techniques deserve more attention."

Do you agre?, advices?, comments?..
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merlin10



Joined: 02 May 2008
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 12, 2008 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tricky... but: There are quite a few people in this forum who had great success with the visualization/feeling touch-technique, so why not trust these recent experiences?

Hard to say why all of a sudden the "old" technique shouldn´t be effective any more. Maybe he is just trying to sell more copies of his book by writing new theories all the time.

What I like most about this forum is the support of the people who had success. So why not follow their advice? A book can only tell so much, but here everybody can get clear cut answers to specific and individual questions. Isn´t that what´s all about?
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r0wl



Joined: 23 May 2008
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 11:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with you.

Iwas not trying to mark visualization as not usefull (Im sure that visualization works), just to introduce a topic in the conversation.
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Arinna



Joined: 14 Jun 2008
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 14, 2008 10:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi all,

I just found this discussion via Google. Actually I only found out about mind power seduction 2 days ago and done this visualization things only four times. My situation is a bit complicated: I love a guy but I haven't been in contact with him since January and he has a girlfriend. We were never in a relationship only dated a few times and chatted on the internet. Will this mind seduction method still work? Is here anyone with a similar situation who can tell me success stories?

I usually go to a deep relaxed state and then visualize about touching and caressing him and I imagine him enjoying it. I do this twice a day. I also visualize us being in love, walking hand in hands, saying sweet words to each other. Am I doing the right thing?
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r0wl



Joined: 23 May 2008
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2008 11:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think that yes, you are doing right.

Just, pay atention if he acts slight diferent with you next time you see him or chat to.

Also want to ask something. In some publications said to nor flirt or be open about feelings with the people you are using MS with, that this will build a wall between you and the other. I dont understand why, any idea?
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omium



Joined: 20 Jun 2008
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 2:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Also want to ask something. In some publications said to nor flirt or be open about feelings with the people you are using MS with, that this will build a wall between you and the other. I dont understand why, any idea?


I remember reading from Amargi's book i think, that by not openly flirting or exposing your feelings to your target (the one you're using MPS on), it sort of gives them [the target] the idea that those feelings of warmth and attraction towards you naturally arose from within themselves, if that makes sense.

Anyone here use msn messenger?
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mikloska



Joined: 06 Jul 2008
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 8:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi all,

I would like to get into the moral issues of this stuff.
But first, my personal experience:
I have used MPS on 2 girls so far, and it worked like a charm. It was actually frightening how well it worked, both of them went totally nuts about me, shown about every kind of nonverbal attraction sign to the extent that it scared me. Embarassed
I couldn't help feeling like if MPS was some kind of cheat codes like those for video games, it really blew my mind. I never got together with any of the girls, but believe me when I say it was only my decision, they would have jumped into the first opportunity, but I just never let them.
I really got confused about whether it's right to be able to have this much influence on other people (or maybe I just got lucky, maybe they would've liked me without MPS anyway), so I stopped doing the techniques altogether, and haven't done any for almost a year by now.
What is funny is that since I still see them from time to time, one girl seems to have lost interest in me, but the other girl still seems to really like me, even after almost a year of me stopping using MPS.

Anyway, MPS worked like crazy on these chicks, to an extent that it actually frightened me how effective it was/is.

I do remember GodWolf posting this in another topic:

"WARNING:
1. square away your morals before even starting, because this stuff will work and if you have conflicts with your conscience, then you results will be altered. ..."

I just couldn't help but feel immoral about remote influencing, which is the reason I stopped using it, and never got with any of the girls.

Here's a qoute I found in a book:

"Be sure and think about the ethics of the issue prior to venturing off into mind control methods. If your intentions are positive and not harmful, then you will be fine.
If you wish to use your powers to hurt or be violent to others, then you are the proud winner of a collection of negative forces which will seek to guideyou down a darker wider path."

Now that is a bit scary. Embarassed
Now that I think about it, I never wanted to hurt anybody using this, I really felt attracted to these chicks and would've liked to have a loving relationship with them (not at the same time ofcourse Razz), the only way I might have hurt them is turning them on with MPS and then not doing anything lol Rolling Eyes

Anyway I would just like to hear some experiences or opinions about the ethics of MPS. I am thinking about starting to use it again, though I don't yet know on whom. Would really appreciate some advice. Wink
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mikloska



Joined: 06 Jul 2008
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 8:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh and btw I forgot to mention that I only used Amargi stuff, only alpha level, no external brainwave machinery or whatever whatsoever Razz
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r0wl



Joined: 23 May 2008
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mikloska but think this:

Manipulation and influence, ok, this seems to be too heavy words to the use we want. Because of course we try to get what we want, but in what way? If we speak with other words...

We want a woman/man to feel atracted to us, to feel happy when is with us, feeling sexy, desirable, have an intimate aproach, attracted, interested, with good wishes about us... This are all good things and something that we wish for us, our families, our friends.

Everybody wants that (Hell, I want that too!!), and also they are going to feel something for anyone taht ALREADY have their attentions in her (wont be this great when we are interested in someone?).
And even if you are only focused to sex.

The only simple thing we do is putting us inside the action. All people have that feelings, we just try to put ourselves into the ecuation.
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AlphaLEO



Joined: 03 Apr 2008
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 12:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

my 2 cents..

this is my first hand experience which shocked me quite a bit..

my first days into meditation were pretty scary,,,quite rightly though it was more the fear of the unknown..and these were the days i also happened to accidentally hit upon Amargi's MPS book.

My goal was telepathy and not MPS,,,

during the days of my meditation, things slowly would manifest itself..whichever person I thought of would instantly call me or text me...it was quite an unusual experience, since i rubbished it as a coincidence...but too many days with too many coincidences, and too many ppl calling me at the exact time (within 2-3 mins) was not good enough to be rubbished...
i did this,,,,,,i tried recalling my long lost cuz, with whom i enjoyed a wonderful relationship before being out of touch! and hoa, she calls in 2mins after years..

even after i had a break off, the girl (who was very strong will powered one) eventually came into my dreams..so then, telepathy works...

i finally decided to do the MPS...and quite honestly, the moral issue came up even before i tried it...but i wanted to experience the MPS whether it really works or was it just a subconscious way of inducing a thought into someone else..

this is wat i achieved..
i tried MPS on a lady who was pretty attractive and would be in quite a good touch with me... okay honestly she was HOT! lol
the reasons for taking her as a target was that she was a divorcee with kids and never wanted to marry again! so instead of trying to do it on a girl i like, and get involved in that "moral" / "immoral" issue, this was a safe bet..

anyways, just doing the MPS for 3 days, she began to call me more often than she did. and finally late nights!

i stopped it straightaway, and the next time she met me, i acted quite foolish to "practically" negate the effect of the MPS, if any. just tht "morality" thing upset me quite a bit.

conclusion to best what i understand..

Telepathy works! it does in a big way.
one of my girlfriend was a full blown psychic and she would know the exact moment i think of her! and quite interestingly though she would complain on my busy days since i had many things to do and wud tend not to think of her..ofcourse i never experimented with her! lol, u know the repurcussions if i wud!

continuing.
Telepathy indeed works. thinking of a person you are trying to send a signal which has to be received by the other person.
since most of them are not so "charged" in a psychic way fail to receive the signal.
what amargi talks off by caressing the "one" you want to have, is in a way sending too strong a "signal". the signal send hence is sensually charged and oriented specifically to arouse a person.
visualization indeed remains the key, but the reason amargi is trying to prophesize visualization of the target, since thts indeed the easiest of all the visualizations! since you wish to have a relationship with the guy / girl , you naturaly are more observant and hence that aids your visualization.

MPS is definitely a strong telepathic signal, but since its orientation is more towards seduction, "caressing the right areas" is making the signal more precise and hence easier to penetrate the subconscious of the receiver.

comments welcome
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blinkZ



Joined: 14 Jul 2008
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 1:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hey I've read the book but I'm quite confused about the states.
okay lets say I'm dreaming(asleep). I'm in an alpha state? or issit delta?
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leeroyjohnkins



Joined: 25 May 2008
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alright, It goes like this.

Beta: Beta is our normal state of consciousness. During this state we are active and alert

Alpha: Alpha is a slightly lower state, We access this state during daydreaming for example, and just before falling asleep.

Theta: Theta is below alpha and is a deep brainwave state. Theta level is reached through meditation, and the early-middle stages of sleep.

Delta: Delta are the lowest frequency waves our brains can emit, and usually we only reach this state during deep sleep.

Sleep is kiiinda a bad example since there are different stages of sleep, And in each stage we are in a different state... But in case of your example (Sleeping and dreaming) Believe it or not you'd actually be in beta! I can explain a little more if you like, but its sorta off topic... Smile

Basically for MPS work, your shooting for the theta-alpha range.
Hope that helps!
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AlphaLEO



Joined: 03 Apr 2008
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

to add to it..

all these states well are states of brain waves frequency levels
more relaxed u are the deeper level u reach..

now you would ask, how in the world wud u practice MPS while sleep..

welll you can reach alpha, theta n even delta in complete waking state...but ofcourse u need to practice ure relaxation techniques and meditation to a great extent..

anyways to reach alpha is probably the first step...
completely relax ure body while not going off to sleep..keep ure mind in complete control, and start concentrating on the following:

ure toe...jst concentrate there for 5-6 secs...then shift ure concentration on the toe of the other foot...
then the lower portion of the feet..then the same of the other foot...
ure heels of both feel....
slowly move point by point upto the shin,,,rear portion of the knee,,,front kneee....thigh.....buttocks...back.....

then start with ure fingertips...then the fingertips of the other hand....
hands, movve towards the elbow....then the elbow of the other hand....
ure biceps...
eventually follow a pattern like this reach ure heart..

then towards ure throat........
ure rear portion of the head....

by now ure eyes wud slightly be looking towards the direction of the portion of the body u were concetrating....concentrate there...
ure mouth.........

and the most critical of all ...................ure tongue has been too tied in the whole process and in all probabiity touching the upper portion of the mouth..
lower n RELAX IT!

while concentrating, u have to relax only THAT paritular potion of the body u were concentrating on........

if you could complete this entire exercise in a perfect way, u wud try to move ure body but sort of would not be able to move it...
of course u can, but ure mind wud work not to move it despite ure commant.....

and if you still awake,,,,u r half way thru Alpha already! relaz more n more.......and try calm the brain which is thinking too hard now!

Smile

hope this helps
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heyt



Joined: 24 Aug 2008
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 8:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi everybody,

I am happy to find such a site and hope you can help me.

I am reading the book right now but I want to make clear some points since I couldn't success the thing I think. I try to make a general visualization instead of a specific person, for example for women to find me attractive etc.

Will this be a problem, or do this practices just work for one person at a time?

And I want to learn how to visualize detailed. I mean, must I see my visualization like I am seeing the real world with my eyes? Just like real, clear and sharp? If it is not necessary what a visualization will be like actually? I will see the shapes or the women or the place?

Can you describe a visualization and how to do and what to see actually?

Thanks for your help...
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