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 Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2005 1:16 pm Post subject: an idea of mine for getting zero-point energy: |
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all atoms in this world have electronic coat, if "we" would remove the electronic coat, "we" would have, from one proton of hydrogen the inexostable power for ever!
the atomic bomb, is making a mistake: she is splitting proton or neutrons from the core. by spliting it, it explodes.
it can be used as source of energy., if "we" remove the electronic coat.
this is technology of tomorrow.
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| A rather interesting idea. Could this be done mentally?
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Ant
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| Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2005 7:58 pm Post subject: Electronic coat |
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| Could this be done mentally? |
I have looked into geometric forms and Magic squares for a number of years and have found a series of tetrahedral shapes that in my opinion demonstrate the various electronic coats of the inert noble gasses.
I have made up to Xenon, the 6th in the series of shapes. In the 5th; Krypton, the outer skin only has 8 direct internal supports which are connected to the inner skin.
As the shapes in the series use only a single length line, I now use 'Q tips' as my building material. Cheep and easy to make.
Anybody into magic squares?
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chandan486
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well , im definately not into magic squares , but would realy like to learn and know more about them ....... all knowledge shared is appreciated ...
respect .. chandan !
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Darab
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| Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2005 9:33 pm Post subject: Re: an idea of mine for getting zero-point energy: |
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| Anonymous wrote: |
all atoms in this world have electronic coat, if "we" would remove the electronic coat, "we" would have, from one proton of hydrogen the inexostable power for ever!
the atomic bomb, is making a mistake: she is splitting proton or neutrons from the core. by spliting it, it explodes.
it can be used as source of energy., if "we" remove the electronic coat.
this is technology of tomorrow. |
Damn, I signed up just to set the record straight here, this electronic coat.. Is actually electrons? tiny particles, electricity ? and i don't think a proton can provide inexhaustible energy, i think its "0.0000000001505359422J" from one proton (E=MC²) so its quite a small number in fact 
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Ant
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| Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2005 3:07 pm Post subject: Gravity exploitation??? |
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We are all told that perpetual motion is impossible due to the law of thermodynamics. Some speculate that it is possible, we just don't know how.
Science is trying to understand gravity by trying to construct anti-gravity devices.
I suggest that the math for Energy is already known as E=MC^2 but the minimum has been obscured by the constant of light defined as C^2. I believe there is a minimum mechanical solution to Energy and it can be found within the law of squares and not within the law of thermodynamics.
In the Energy equation, Energy has Mass and a C square constant. There is a linked relationship between Mass (the number in each square) and C^2, (the sum of a diagonal in equal squares or the constant in Magic Squares).
Within different sized Equal Squares transforming to Magic Squares, there are three types of patterns. I believe one of these types (oscillation) can be mechanically copied to force another (rotation), creating an independent third force (rotation and oscillation).
Mechanically, I believe C^2, the sum of the diagonal in equal squares, or the constant in Magic Squares can be represented by incremented squares.
In the video clip at http://f3.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/4G65QtrblJ7jnWo_gQbIhUHQlYqwFza9WfGNbB0MVoVhaL7EpeMbvfZAkFlWTD6fArDn3rCqxFCP_uZ4jX0mMdp5HITSlXit6Q/Clockwise.AVI
there are 3 mechanisms or Arms inside the wheel. Each Arm is constructed of a long row of squares that get 1 bigger making a string of incremented squares representing C^2 in E=MC^2. I am experimenting with Mass (how many) and C^2 (how long) the arms need to be to produce minimum energy.
The unaided movement seen in the attached 10 second video clip is forced by 3 internal articulated metal squares going back and forth. Although you cannot see the inners, you can hear them slide, displacing weight forcing it to move.
I make a poor substitute for the missing 3 arms, but place another 3 arms on it...
What do you think, impossible?
A clean form of energy is desperately needed, I lack the resource for quick completion, hence this post. The idea is not patentable or combatable with the money-go-round technology of today.
Ant
www.stargrail.co.uk
After some time studying magic squares I have seen a logical progression, cubic magic squares. Because of a relative view, upgrading magic squares to cubic magic squares creates space within. The logical expansion creates the same sequence that can be found within tetrahedrons. I believe the minimum application is a Gravity Wheel.
Cubes, the domain of the Borg. Resistance is futile...
...Everything is impossible until it's not...
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T.T orach
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I've got a question dealing with energy.
Since there seems to be a logical progression of magic squares to cubic magical squares couldn't there be a progression from two forms of energy fields to three? What I mean by that is couldn't energy be three dimensional? It may seem to be three dimensional now but is it really? Example: Objects in this world are defined by three dimensions, height, length and depth, each being 90' out of phase to the other; x,y,and z axis on a graph. Let's say that electricity travels along one axis, x; the result from it's traveling is a magnetic field created along y axis (north on one end and south on the other), The electricity traveling and the magnetic field created make it seem to have three dimensions, but really there are only two, the direction of the electricity flow and the magnetic north and south pole direction. That still leaves the z axis open as a possible energy source, scalar energy? Each level of energy is more subtle than the previous one (electricity, magnetic, scalar), therefore scalar would not be detectable with our current devices. I believe it could be tapped and used just as magnetic fields have been used to produce electricity. The problem is, how do you tap something you can't measure?
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Ant
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I've got a question dealing with energy.
Since there seems to be a logical progression of magic squares to cubic magical squares couldn't there be a progression from two forms of energy fields to three? |
There is Cubic Magic Squares.
The square can be measured to contain 2 same length lines. Each going through the centre of the square and ending at the middle of each line. (Order 2 Square).
The cube can be measured to contain 3 same length lines, going through the centre of the cube and ending at the opposite faces of each square in a cube frame.
Therefore I see cubic magic squares describes a progression of two forms of energy fields to three.
Expansion from a square to a cube, creates space for 3 same length lines.
Two tetrahedral frames have within a tetrahedral frame.
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Ant
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| Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 7:55 am Post subject: CUBIC MAGIC SQUARES |
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| T.T orach wrote: |
I've got a question dealing with energy.
Since there seems to be a logical progression of magic squares to cubic magical squares couldn't there be a progression from two forms of energy fields to three?
What I mean by that is couldn't energy be three dimensional?
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Example: Objects in this world are defined by three dimensions, height, length and depth, each being 90' out of phase to the other; x,y,and z axis on a graph. Let's say that electricity travels along one axis, x; the result from it's traveling is a magnetic field created along y axis (north on one end and south on the other), The electricity traveling and the magnetic field created make it seem to have three dimensions, but really there are only two, the direction of the electricity flow and the magnetic north and south pole direction.
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I know NOTHING about electricity beyond turn it on, it works, or it's broke.
What I relate is from my studies in magic squares and my definition of 'quantum strings' 'the smallest shape connected'.
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It may seem to be three dimensional now but is it really?
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My studies are an attempt to turn 2D into 1D then into 3D and I found 4D and 5D automatically.
I am working on understanding 6D as the first magic square that has rotation and oscillating properties.
My Example is about Tetrahedral frames which when rotated, form a circumscribed interlocking Tetrahedron a minimum cube or face centred cube.
The expansion of a Tetrahedral Frame to a Stellated Tetrahedral Frame, in my mind creates a frame of 8 points.
This can be viewed as a cube frame with the removal of the 10 within.
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When rotated the 5 Tetrahedral spaces in a stellated tetrahedral frame doubles to 10 Tetrahedral frames and creates 16 points. The number of squares within an order 4 Magic Square.
All 880 Order 4 Magic Square Quantum Strings are in the file section and picture section on my group cubic magic squares.
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T.T orach
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I like numbers and could easily become totally occupied with the magic number theory, so I tend to stay away from them unless they capture my interest as you have. I'll be checking out your group. Just a note of my observation; the 4 magic square picture when divided in half (left to right) is an inverted picture, 'as above so below'. Hermetic philosophy.
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Hi Ant,
As always, your posts are innovative and stretching! I'm just wondering if you've come across the work of Bruce Cathie. He re-jigs the E=MC^2 using a radian measure for the velocity of light rather than a linear one. Doing this means that you can remove mass from the equation, and you're left with just energy and light.
To give you an idea, this is a series of quote's from David Wilcock's E-book shift of Ages.
http://ascension2000.com/Shift-of-the-Ages/shift09.htm.
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| Einstein's own equation of relativity gets very close to this Unified Field in and of itself. Almost everyone knows that the equation reads as follows: Energy equals Mass times The Speed of Light (C) squared, or E=MC2. What Einstein hoped to do was to solve this equation for the Speed of Light alone. He believed that the value for mass could eventually be substituted as a measurement of light. If this was done, then all of Creation could be expressed as being made up of Pure Light -- mass and energy entirely a function of Light. This is the true "unified field" that Einstein was searching for. |
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| The Speed of Light as we now know it is measured in seconds. One of Cathie's initial discoveries involved coming up with a different way to measure time, in order to equate it more precisely with the harmonics of the Earth's Grid itself. Right now, our system of seconds works quite well for us, counting in a 60-based system. We have a day of 24 hours. Cathie discovered that the harmonics of the math for the Grid become much simpler if we have a day of 27 "grid hours" instead of our usual 24. This is simply done by factoring in an 8 to 9 ratio- in other words, for every eight hours in our current system, there are nine hours in the "harmonic" system. Since this is a very simple adjustment, it certainly is possible that this is a natural aspect of the Universe- in other words, both the 8-based system and the 9-based system will show different types of harmonics. Eight is the basis of the Octave, and nine is the basis of the Diatonic musical scale. |
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| The Speed of Light as we now express it is measured in miles per second. We have already seen how Cathie converted the value of a second into its harmonic ideal, the Grid Second. We now also need to convert our regular system of miles into a grid-based measuring system. As we remember from the discussion of the work of Aime Michel and the UFO tracklines that were symmetrically spaced apart from each other, Cathie used the system of "nautical miles" to determine where the "grid lines" were placed. We also know that one nautical mile is equal to one minute of arc on the Earth's surface, and that there is a "grid line" every 30 minutes. So, what we need to do is change the miles in the speed of light equation into nautical miles, or minutes of arc, as the two are interchangeable. Therefore, the "grid speed" of Light would be expressed as (x) minutes of arc per grid second. |
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| Einstein's paradox of "light speed" is that as you approach it, mass becomes larger and larger, to a point of infinity. But as Cathie has solved the relativity equation for light alone, we can then see that the only threshold we would ever reach would be a function of C, the speed of light itself. Therefore, there really is no mass, only Light. Or, as Ra says, we gain "spiritual mass" which compresses us back to the Light of the One. Obviously, this "spiritual mass" is Light, not physical matter. The point here is that Light speed is NOT an infinite boundary that cannot be crossed, it just requires your FREQUENCY to change. Think of the atom with its eight positions for electrons. Were a ninth electron to be released from the nucleus, it would have no choice but to transition into the next octave of frequency, since the octave structure cannot be superceded. So, when the speed of Light reaches its "critical mass" in our third dimension, it "jumps" to the next level, or frequency, in the octave. |
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| As we have already indicated, Cathie was able to completely transform Einstein’s theory of relativity with a "grid function" that expressed that mass in terms of the speed of light only. By solving the Relativity theory for "c", Cathie essentially "cracked the code" of the Unified Field theory by removing the mass variable and resolving Einstein's entire equation into light; hence Energy Equals Light. Thus, all seen and unseen material in the Universe is a Unified Field of what is ultimately Pure Light. |
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Einstein E = MC2
Cathie M = C + 1 / sq rt C
Therefore E = (C + 1 / sq rt C) C2 |
Hope you can make practical use of these ideas.
Patrick
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Ant
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| T.T orach wrote: |
I like numbers and could easily become totally occupied with the magic number theory, so I tend to stay away from them unless they capture my interest as you have. I'll be checking out your group. Just a note of my observation; the 4 magic square picture when divided in half (left to right) is an inverted picture, 'as above so below'. Hermetic philosophy.
T.T orach |
Yes, I think they all are, but check it out for yourself you may see something I havent.
One step back two steps forward also rings a bell.
4 Tetrahedrons hide the Tetrahedral Space(0) of 5 (10 in base 5. 1 five, 0 units).
6 Cubes hide the Cubic Space(0) of 7 (10 in base 7. 1 seven, 0 units).
7 in the alphabet is G.
G Odd hmmm... In base 7, G is 10, an even number in decimal what about base 7!?!
0 is minimum constant for all Order 'odd' Magic Square, Cubic Magic Squares and Magic Cubes to odd infinity.
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The Order 2 square, start number 2 is 2x7=14. The Order 2 Magic Square Construction of 2 (2 diagonals) has a frame of 12.
07 08
09 10
The Order 2 square, start number 2 is 2x7=14. The Order 2 Magic Square Construction of 7 (07 diagonals) has a frame of 26.
26 are in the circumference of an Order 3 Cube.
26 are in the number of letters in the English Alphabet.
By the addition of negative numbers, all Order 'even' Magic Squares, Flat Cubic Magic Squares and Magic Cubes display half the value of it's Order.
Ant
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Ant
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| Patrick Holden wrote: |
Hi Ant,
As always, your posts are innovative and stretching! I'm just wondering if you've come across the work of Bruce Cathie. He re-jigs the E=MC^2 using a radian measure for the velocity of light rather than a linear one. Doing this means that you can remove mass from the equation, and you're left with just energy and light.
To give you an idea, this is a series of quote's from David Wilcock's E-book shift of Ages.
http://ascension2000.com/Shift-of-the-Ages/shift09.htm.
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| Einstein's own equation of relativity gets very close to this Unified Field in and of itself. Almost everyone knows that the equation reads as follows: Energy equals Mass times The Speed of Light (C) squared, or E=MC2. What Einstein hoped to do was to solve this equation for the Speed of Light alone. He believed that the value for mass could eventually be substituted as a measurement of light. If this was done, then all of Creation could be expressed as being made up of Pure Light -- mass and energy entirely a function of Light. This is the true "unified field" that Einstein was searching for. |
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| The Speed of Light as we now know it is measured in seconds. One of Cathie's initial discoveries involved coming up with a different way to measure time, in order to equate it more precisely with the harmonics of the Earth's Grid itself. Right now, our system of seconds works quite well for us, counting in a 60-based system. We have a day of 24 hours. Cathie discovered that the harmonics of the math for the Grid become much simpler if we have a day of 27 "grid hours" instead of our usual 24. This is simply done by factoring in an 8 to 9 ratio- in other words, for every eight hours in our current system, there are nine hours in the "harmonic" system. Since this is a very simple adjustment, it certainly is possible that this is a natural aspect of the Universe- in other words, both the 8-based system and the 9-based system will show different types of harmonics. Eight is the basis of the Octave, and nine is the basis of the Diatonic musical scale. |
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| The Speed of Light as we now express it is measured in miles per second. We have already seen how Cathie converted the value of a second into its harmonic ideal, the Grid Second. We now also need to convert our regular system of miles into a grid-based measuring system. As we remember from the discussion of the work of Aime Michel and the UFO tracklines that were symmetrically spaced apart from each other, Cathie used the system of "nautical miles" to determine where the "grid lines" were placed. We also know that one nautical mile is equal to one minute of arc on the Earth's surface, and that there is a "grid line" every 30 minutes. So, what we need to do is change the miles in the speed of light equation into nautical miles, or minutes of arc, as the two are interchangeable. Therefore, the "grid speed" of Light would be expressed as (x) minutes of arc per grid second. |
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| Einstein's paradox of "light speed" is that as you approach it, mass becomes larger and larger, to a point of infinity. But as Cathie has solved the relativity equation for light alone, we can then see that the only threshold we would ever reach would be a function of C, the speed of light itself. Therefore, there really is no mass, only Light. Or, as Ra says, we gain "spiritual mass" which compresses us back to the Light of the One. Obviously, this "spiritual mass" is Light, not physical matter. The point here is that Light speed is NOT an infinite boundary that cannot be crossed, it just requires your FREQUENCY to change. Think of the atom with its eight positions for electrons. Were a ninth electron to be released from the nucleus, it would have no choice but to transition into the next octave of frequency, since the octave structure cannot be superceded. So, when the speed of Light reaches its "critical mass" in our third dimension, it "jumps" to the next level, or frequency, in the octave. |
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| As we have already indicated, Cathie was able to completely transform Einstein’s theory of relativity with a "grid function" that expressed that mass in terms of the speed of light only. By solving the Relativity theory for "c", Cathie essentially "cracked the code" of the Unified Field theory by removing the mass variable and resolving Einstein's entire equation into light; hence Energy Equals Light. Thus, all seen and unseen material in the Universe is a Unified Field of what is ultimately Pure Light. |
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Einstein E = MC2
Cathie M = C + 1 / sq rt C
Therefore E = (C + 1 / sq rt C) C2 |
Hope you can make practical use of these ideas.
Patrick |
Hi Patrick thanks for the link, I have added it to my group's links. And will check it out.
What I have done to E=MC^2 is
M= Mass?
I recon M=Magic square.
The contents or Mass of any Order Magic Square is indicated by the distribution of whole decimal numbers in its cubic space.
C^2 is the Constant produced by the arrangement of Decimal numbers in a Magic Square or the diagonal of any Order Linear Square.
I am trying to find the minimum M and minimum C^2 to make E.
I recon
M is how Many
C^2 is a string of incremented articulated squares.
The number is taken from the Constant in an Order 6 Oscillated Cubic Magic Square or Further Oscillated Cubic Magic Square.
FAVOURED SOLUTION
A Flat Order 6 Cubic Magic Square with a start number of 22 is my favored minimum solution, at the moment.
The 22 indicates there is 21+0 in 4 0's or 4 Tetrahedral Frames. The 4 0's is fourspace/foursquare or a blank Order 2 Cubic Magic Square.
4 0's are created by the initial oscillation from flat to an oscillated Order 4 Cubic Magic Square.
It then further telescopes from 16 to 20 to 24.
Four 0's or 4 triangle sides of a Tetrahedral Frame.
When spun an individual tetrahedron appears as 2 interlocking Tetrahedral frames, a minimum cubic space.
When A single cubic space is viewed, there are 21 preceeding it. Encased in 2 interlocked Tetrahedrons counted as 1.
As 2 is the start number to Cubic Magic Squares, 21 cubic spaces are hidden within the first of 4 0's within when forming the start number.
In base 22, 10=1@22 and 0 unit(s).
A digit in each square, represents a cubic space.
21 is the number of dots on a dotted 6 sided dice.
When 0 is included in the numbering of the 6 sided dice. The sum of the 3 opposite sides are 0+5, 1+4, 2+3. A sum of 15, the Constant of an Order 3 Magic Square, start number 1.
Translates to me, 3 double tetrahedral frames is represented by the Order 3 Magic Square, start number 0.
A minimum of 0 in a minimum Order 3 Magic Square (36 sum of 0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7 & 8).
012
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678
Reordered to a torus configuration.
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678
The value 9 can be found by the route of any straight line through the middle.
The sum of 1,2,3 & 4 is 10 which transforms the centre of a Magic Square from a value of 0 to a value of 2.
I'll show you what the 4 squares does to the finite in a vacuum Speed of Light, if you like.
Ant
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| Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 6:33 pm Post subject: |
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Er, Ant. I'm completeley lost. My physics might be good, but you're way over my head on the magic square tranformations.
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The 22 indicates there is 21+0 in 4 0's or 4 Tetrahedral Frames. The 4 0's is fourspace/foursquare or a blank Order 2 Cubic Magic Square.
4 0's are created by the initial oscillation from flat to an oscillated Order 4 Cubic Magic Square.
It then further telescopes from 16 to 20 to 24.
Four 0's or 4 triangle sides of a Tetrahedral Frame.
When spun an individual tetrahedron appears as 2 interlocking Tetrahedral frames, a minimum cubic space. |
Wow! I'm looking at your website/yahoo group to try and get a grasp. I may be gone some time...
Patrick
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