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lynx7 · Joined: 26 Jul 2008 Posts: 41

CJ, thanks a million for taking the time to help.

lynx7 · Joined: 26 Jul 2008 Posts: 41

Miracles and Accidents? It only looks like miracles and accidents depending on your vantage point.

d_redant · Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 2:47 pm Post subject:

lynx7 · Joined: 26 Jul 2008 Posts: 41

Thanks D. Everything is working fine now.

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AlphaLEO · Joined: 03 Apr 2008 Posts: 47

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Yes I agree..One can create their own miracles and positive accidents... I know I do..[/quote]

I thought about it a few times before replying...purely for the kind of respect i hold for everyone's view, and expecially D's. Smile

because, none of us are ever wrong, its always a perspective one holds because of experiences, intellect, and surroundings and hence everyone's opinion.

I dont believe, we can always create our own miracles endlessly..
Karma exists and its real..
reincarnation is not only a philosophy, but its one of the absolute truth again..

or else how can you explain countless people dying in terrorists attacks, natural disasters?
are we lesser sinners than abnormal children who are born?
are we better souls than the parents of such children? did they do so wrong, for them to be given such children by nature?

i dont think in this birth i have any trouble findind my bread twice a day, a home to live, ..nature, by the virtue of birth in a good family and my intellect has ensured that.. Smile

..there are milllions out there, born in huntments..

with this backdrop, i can say Karma is like a "boundary" everyone is born with..this is the "balance" a lot of people here say...
you can never achieve beyond or lose beyond the "boundaries"..
often miracles can be created but within the permissible limits of Karma..within those boundaries...

the decisions you take , are based on gut,,,from where does the gut come?
you would say, comes from situations, intellect, experience, qualification..
how did all that come from?
eventually narrow it down, you would see it comes from the "point, place" of your birth...(dont even think i am refering towards astrology)
it is karma which decided which family, country, situation, you were born in...and hence everything else follows...

this is the balance of a number of lives and all the karma you build up...

For me, with no OFFENSE to anyone, religion was developed, evolved over centuries and ever since mankind existed.
its evolution more-so has been social and political..
when i say political, mind you, i don't talk of present day political scenarios...
i rather mean political as in , the way to "govern", "guide" a "way of life" over masses...
religion evolved since in society there existed a few wise men in every era, who realized the need to "guide" the common masses for harmony and peace...so then, religion be it Hindu, christian, jew, islam, etc. is nothing but a philosophy of the way of life.
YES, those "wise men" always added "God" to be the backdrop of religion for it to be more acceptable to the masses, since fear of god was instilled before religion...

i don't discard the "power" completely out of religion...i would be wrong if i said that...
but isnt the true purpose of religion is to bring together people to live with harmony?
have faith and hence channelize the energy towards a centric "entity"?
and hence dont you have so many "deities"?
If religion was purely only God, why have so many? so isnt the fact that we have so many religions across the world, suggests various "ways of life", various clans, various "wise men" who existed in those times to understand the need to "channelize" mankind in those eras?

and when we here on Mystical Wonders talk of Spirituality, I don't associate it to be religious.
yes INDEED, there is a sub-set between the two, but both are independent.

I am a HINDU. I have practiced being an Ekist in the past...I have studied few aspects of Christianity, Islam.
this is what i have come to learn and realize over past many years.

i sincerely hope not to offend anyone, Smile

lynx7 · Joined: 26 Jul 2008 Posts: 41

Is their purpose to human life? How to escape the wheel (prison) of Karma? What is this that has drawn us into this who am I? Is it behind the veil of our birth? Is it a memory? Something so high - so fulfilling - that draws us? Has it already been written and we - are doing the writing? Is free will simply a run off of Karma (illusion)? Can we reach the destination? Are we like a fish in water looking for water? Perhaps, things aren't as they appear?

d_redant · Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 5:32 pm Post subject:

Of course I know about Karma too. In fact I also have Hindu roots as well as other religions. I come from a really diverse religious background..and religion isn't for me!

Why? Too much politics..and everybody wants to control the masses with their own doctrine.

I prefer being Spiritual alone..Not religious...It is the way to evolve.

Basically it's about clearing past Karmas that allow you to achieve fullness in this lifetime..that's if your Karma isn't already racked up in a positive way... Some people have good births..meaning that they did alot of good in their previous lifetimes and in this lifetime are born into wealthy families..Mind you when they are born into this rich lifestyle they still have the potential to go all wrong..

If its racked up in a negative way (karma) one should cultivate a behaviour of love and doing good for others as much as possible..This is how we're all suppose to be right now away..Love, Oneness, Sharing, Caring

How do we know if your karma is racked up in a positive or negative way?

I assume past life readings will help.

I also donate monthly to worthy charities out of the goodness of my heart and wanting to help others who truly need it. I donate to animal shelters too (can't forget our loving Animal Kingdom).. What do you think this does for my Karma and capability to generate Miracles?

There are also certain hindu mantras for clearning past karma and one can wear certain beads of a certain plant to clear past life karmas,etc..but this isn't about Hinduism..

Other than that...past karma is really about lessons..

Karma is about lessons..

If you also dont believe you can create miracles endlessly then you never will be able to do so.

Belief is what moulds your reality.

As you rightly pointed out I never consider Spirituality the same thing as religion..In fact Religion is a real hindrance..

All we need to do is go to God and follow the Divine Will.and miracles happen every day.. There are no limits in the universe..

However..bear in mind one should always respect other gods and goddesses from all cultures. We are all part of the one..simple as that!

This will make an interested read on the Origin of the word 'Hindu'..

lynx7 · Joined: 26 Jul 2008 Posts: 41

I am reminded of the caterpillar, as I read the wonderful discussion we are having. As long as the caterpillar is running around saying, I will soon be a butterfly, he will be around for a long time. It is only when caterpillarness is done that one can become the butterfly. Jesus, as He hung there on the cross, had done everything God had willed and now He yearned only to be with the Father in oneness. It was His last desire - to be One. But God turned His Face and Jesus died unto life.

Hanuman was the perfect servant master relationship. Hanuman said of this, When I am awake there is no servant - master relationship! When Jesus was asked to show them God, He responded with "I and my Father are one". Have I been with this long and you know not who I Am? Elsewhere He prayed it would be so for His disciples. God's love is a consuming fire.

d_redant · Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 7:29 am Post subject:

Yep..check this video out.."A deeper understanding of karma and rituals." is the name of it.

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=3012907501029529670

Show a bit of information and knowledge about Karma.

lynx7 · Joined: 26 Jul 2008 Posts: 41

Thanks D.

d_redant · Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 1:36 am Post subject:

AlphaLEO · Joined: 03 Apr 2008 Posts: 47

Rightly said D Smile

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