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A fair warning for MPS/Psychic Seduction practicioners...

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GodWolf



Joined: 09 Jan 2008
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 1:43 pm    Post subject: A fair warning for MPS/Psychic Seduction practicioners... Reply with quote

For all of you practicing these arts, a little fair warning and some insight.


This road is a slippery slope. It is a very powerful practice in which, I seem to think, bypasses all of the long a** exercise and rituals that are seen in some tomes to master manipulation of your environment,using your mind, with a concentrated subject of mind seduction. Amargi Hillier and David Plazo condensed and packaged the lesson...and those who practice wholeheartedly find that they get result in a shorter time than studying soemthing like The Secret or The Master Key...or other stuff like that.

The reader/practicioner gains so much power so fast. But...and I hate to say this...morality must be strong. You must understand why I say this...you are training and disciplining your mind to manipulate and influence people through seduction...and these tools can be used for other stuff as well. A very immoral person with a disciplined mind can easily run amok with this stuff and can in effect lose control...

Now before I get into problems with those saying, "Cut it out,Godwolf...we aren't freaking VILLAINS!!!" Just hear me out. Morals are a way for you to control yourself to use MPS/PS towards your goal ONLY!!! If you can control yourself, it'll be easier for you to control your mind power. Trust me.


I've been a practcioner for over 3 years and, though I am in no way a master (black belt)...I have advanced expertise(beginning of red belt, for those inclined through MA knowledge) and I have used these techniques to help me do things I once thought weren't possible. I have also failed miserably with them and had them backfire on me,too.

The reason I say this is because, if you are in a relationship...and are trying this on your significant other, that's fine. Anyone else...and it's just wrong...not because "God will punish"...but you will hurt that other person AND the person you are trying to seduce. Unless you can use MPS to square away that situation...then, go for it.(hope you know what you are doing) When Amargi says "Have your morals squared away before doing this stuff" HE MEANS IT!!! So those starting, stop and ask why do this. Those that are mastering this stuff, I implore you to do the same.Using this stuff makes you so powerful. It is the equivalent of a master taking 20 years of his expertise, condensing it into 2 weeks, giving you the core concepts and giving you all the secret shortcuts(which you still have to practice dilligently).


Ok...now some insight....
If you forget anything about how to do MPS/PS, remember this...
Concentration above all. concentrate on the "goal" and the "situation" to the point where YOU NO LONGER EXIST AS YOURSELF,YOU EXIST AS THE GOAL OR THE SITUATION!!!!
Those who have mastered MPS will immediately know what I am talking about, when they practice MPS, they get so absorbed into it that the outside world no longer exist...their thoughts are so strong...that at that time...they only "exist" as their sessions. That is your goal. Concentrate...but detach yourself emotionally once done. That's important,too.


And now for a bit of philsophy. Those who don't want their belief systems to be shaken, leave now. those that want to explore some possibilities with what their MPS really maybe, listen up and make your own judgement.

Highlight here...
What if MPS is just a way for you to train your subconcious mind to mold you into becoming more attractive to your target? What if instead of influencing them...you influence yourself to become more likeable to them? Just a thought...it may be ture, false, or maybe half the truth. Consider it if you dare...it's like asking yourself,"How does a _____ act like?" Automatically, your subconcious mind will either tell you or it will find out! What if MPS is aksing your subconcious mind,"How would I act if I could seduce this person?"

It could just be a bunch of crap...or truth...or inbetween.


Anyways...all the best to those who practice. To the experts and the masters...enjoy your powers...and remember your responsibilities(and don't lie saying you don't have any. The moment you became this far down this road that is not easily traveled....you accept that you have some responsibilities. Know them. It'll be easier for you in the long run)

Godwolf.
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Catmania1



Joined: 04 Mar 2008
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 4:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

GodWolf

I have acknowledged the possibilities, and am quite aware of the boundaries...on the other hand, I don't understand why you'd post this.

Statements such as "you will hurt that other person AND the person you are trying to seduce", are completely empty. You can not tell me that I am going to hurt people. I am the only person who is in control of that...MPS does not control me. It sounds like you are speaking on personal experiences and not on the way things are. If so, I'm deeply sorry if you've hurt every person you've seduced. I have never hurt a single person through this.

There are plenty of posts on the forum forewarning the possibilities of immoral and unethical usage of MPS. If you'd like to give some personal experiences so we can discuss them and then see your reasoning, it would give more credibility to your warning instead of, what sounds like, fear mongering babble.

I don't want people to feel frightened of Mind Power techniques because they are instilled with fear...so if you could please list an experience that has brought you to feel this way I think all of us here would appreciate it! Talk to you soon!
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GodWolf



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 4:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No fear mongering. I don't want people to be ignorant of the power they wield.

I have only hurt one person...the 1st one. And that's because I didn't listen to Amargi about the morals.Afterwards....success with little to no backlash. And whatever comes, MPS it.

Maybe I still have far ways to go in MPS. But from where I am, I find morals help.

But you are right...I should have said "might" instead of "will hurt". But I also said you can use MPS to fix that ,too.

And I am speaking from personal experience. I do not want others to make my mistakes. MPS is wonderful the moment you control it...not it controlling you. I'm deeply sorry,too. I fixed it, but that will always be the "dark spot" of my MPS career. I have just reached a point of development where I feel I can offer insight. And that's the insight I feel most compelled to share. I know it works. People shouldn't be afraid. But they should know what could be in store.
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leeroyjohnkins



Joined: 25 May 2008
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 9:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Curious...

You mention squaring away your morals, Can you define this a little better?

Elaborate on how NOT doing so can hurt you?
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leeroyjohnkins



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 9:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ugh...why does this forum not have an edit post button?

Just wanted to add: and others
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d_redant
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 10:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

to prevent people from deleteing their information after a while

it's happened in the past and it's not a good thing as it breaks up the flow of things when people edit and clear their posts later on.

if anyone wants anything edited or removed they can always contact me directly..

I don't think it's a big deal though.
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BlackPaw



Joined: 01 Dec 2006
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 05, 2009 10:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In the MPS by Amargi Hillier the author describes how the influence on the person is. And its contrast to what you say (that we influence ourselfs to become more likeable to them).

You mentioned The master key system (Charles Haanel) and The Secret (are you referring to the filM)?
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Vampiric Royalty



Joined: 04 Feb 2009
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 12:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes I definitely agree it must be warned upon those less experience.
Remember that our creation is for the purpose of Creating Energy and through God we do that.Humans with there PS6 or Mind Power Seduction manipulate energy which isn't aligned with our creator.God wants us to be like Him/Her and that is to Create Divinity.And if we start manipulating energy which doesn't belong us then we are not aligned with God or Any other Divine Being.
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Catmania1



Joined: 04 Mar 2008
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 7:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vampiric Royalty wrote:
Yes I definitely agree it must be warned upon those less experience.
Remember that our creation is for the purpose of Creating Energy and through God we do that.Humans with there PS6 or Mind Power Seduction manipulate energy which isn't aligned with our creator.God wants us to be like Him/Her and that is to Create Divinity.And if we start manipulating energy which doesn't belong us then we are not aligned with God or Any other Divine Being.


Vampiric,

I don't know how you can say that MPS isn't aligned with God, or how we are using energy which isn't ours.

If you think of something, and envision it in your mind for a long period of time as being yours, you will eventually manifest it into existence. You have created a physical object with your thoughts. Someone else's energy might go into the creation of it, so have you wronged them by using their energy? Who are you to say so? And who are you to tell me what is of Holy alignment?

Honestly, I think that the only thing that matters is your intent. You know what is right and what is wrong. Do not be afraid to do what you think is right.
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Vampiric Royalty



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PostPosted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 2:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry Catmania.You could view my last post on Karma in the Spirituality section.I won't be lecturing anybody on Karma as of now.
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Catmania1



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 2:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe I got a little carried away...I apologize if I did. All I'm saying, is this section should be kept on topic, but it seems like we're discussing morals instead of seduction. Let's stick to what the thread is about.
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Talbain



Joined: 03 Feb 2009
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 02, 2009 3:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I totally agree with you Catmania1. I still don´t see where the inmoral stuff is here.
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Talbain



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 9:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As you can see, this topics has no post since some months ago, but I think it was interesting, as the last pos before this was mine too. We definetely need the feedback of the old practitioners and its a shame they are no longer here. Imagine all of what they could say about three, four or more years of practice.

By the way, as Godwolf meant, and Spiderman's grandpa said:

"A great power comes with a great responsability"

I have that present everyday.
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infobot



Joined: 14 Sep 2005
Posts: 95

PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 10:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Everyone will learn for themselves that manipulating others mentally / psychically does have a backlash.

When you get enough experience you will see or rather feel the backlash for yourself.

No running away from it..No trying to reason that you'll be safe from the karmic backlash...Even if you do not believe in Karma..

Just wait and you'll see Laughing
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Sorcerer
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 1:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

infobot,
u seem to b drawn into every discussion about mind manipulation.dyou happen to b female.well i think if u do it with a positive intent,the boomerang effects(karma) are gonna b filled with love.i personally dont practise mps but i do practice mental command to regulate behaviours of ill mannered ppl around me.i think its the intent that matters. Cool
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