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peacerx10 · Joined: 16 Sep 2006 Posts: 2

This is a question that will have many different answer to it and if there is details to it..please do add it.

Can you manifest being in a relationship with a specific person?, maybe yes..with bad intention then it will backfire. Some say you are messing with their free will and some answered back if you can mess with their free will..then it is Not free will if you can easily change it like that and in fact.. we are constantly influencing people and many more things.

So my question is what do you think? anyone had success seducing someone, will it last , is it Really messing with someones freewill ,karma for it then..even with good intention, will it really work ?

Anymore you know about it,what do you all think?please add more.Thank you all

Tepet · Joined: 28 Aug 2006 Posts: 11 Location: Olympia, WA, USA

I think you cannot do anything to anyone they do not want done. You do not have that kind of power. Geesh. Smile

Tepet

neotechmatrix2002 · Joined: 01 Feb 2005 Posts: 372

write and affirmation allowing the perfect person to come into your life... or meditate on it.

telecino · Joined: 09 Oct 2006 Posts: 45 Location: Quebec, Canada

Either manifest, or provoke with human means.

If you manifest love in your life, you will have a loving relationship with someone who is suited for you, who you will be greatly in love with.

If you really want one specific person, go to this person and use your normal human seduction skills to seduce the person. Probably be honest and gentle and ask this person out.

Now, consider that if you are fixed on one person, it is not love, but lust and desire, which is good, but still are stimulants from your animal nature, which are far from the stimulants of your spiritual nature until you harmonize with many years of personal growth.

If you use spiritual tools to manifest love in your life, it will happen, and you will be happier than if you use human animal tools to fill up your temporary animal desires.

I have personnaly used magical arts to be with extreemly beautyful women, slim, model like faces, lots of assets (i'm a breast guy...) and the result was allways the same. Even the most beautyful women could not bring happines in my life. If you use magical manifulation tools, you will simply be deceived by your own inhability to really know what you need. But until then, enjoy yourslef and pay the price.

After a period of trial in my life, and learning deeper arts of personal growth, i summoned from the universe the manifestation of the path of Love, in the form of a woman companion, for which i did not define precise things, but was not someone i knew or a specific woman. Not so long after, a few weeks, i meet my wife. Our second son will be birth this late december. We're having constructions in our house' basement at the moment, to build me a new office and have another room for our son to come. You can be certain that i am fulfilled, because i let go, and accepted that my lust would be fulfilled by the woman that my spiritual self had prepared for me.

mayday · Joined: 15 Feb 2009 Posts: 5

Hello all,

This is my first post here and please do bare with me.

I had a major breakup in December with a girlfriend I knew for 9 years. It really did hurt bad but I found that meditation helped very much for me into coming to terms with the breakup. It merely took me a couple of weeks to pull myself together. At the same time, I've practiced a visualization exercise that involves attracting your new lover in Psychic101 under remote-psychic-seduction.html. I can't paste the exact address because apparently I'm a newbie.

Whilst visualizing, I imagined the girl to be a Chinese, shoulder length hair and some nice sets of breasts! Haha. I left the face and other attributes out. So I did this visualizing for roughly a week, ending towards the close of the 2008 year.

Now what I'm going to narrate is about a dream I had on the wee hours of 31st December 2008. In the dream, I was sitting on top of a parked classic motorcycle and wearing a black jacket (which neither of the two, that I own). Then when I looked to the back of me, came a Chinese girl in her 20s, shoulder length hair, wearing a black dress and carrying a full black knapsack. I thought to myself in the dream, "Oh, she's from one of my group of friends".

Suddenly, she jumped on the tank of the motorbike, sat on it facing me. She hugged me tightly and whilst crying said, " I really, really love you 'MY NAME'". I asked her back, "Why didn't you tell me?". She replied, "I didn't know how to". Then I continued, "Well ok then, we'll see how things go. I started the bike while she was still on top of the tank (meaning her face was facing backwards to the direction I was riding). Odd positioning, I know.

This image faded and we all of a sudden were transported to a big white building, which seemed like a car showroom. I was now carrying a baby which was crying. The baby wasn't ours, as I told myself in the dream. It was dark skinned. Whilst still crying, the girl took the baby from my arms and said "That's not the way to do it" and when she carried the baby, it stopped crying. The dream just ended like that. But I somehow knew this dream was different and most of the time, my dreams manifest into real life.

To make things dramatic, on the eve of 2009, my friends and I went to party. I was introduced to one girl. I didn't pay any attention initially, but I noticed she was trying to get close to me so we could have a conversation, which we did. We exchange numbers and I thought that was that.

When I went back home, as I was thinking back, I realized the girl I just met very much resembled the girl in my dreams I had merely 18 hours ago (and to some extent, 'the girl' that I practiced the visualization exercises). She had shoulder length hair and the top she wore was exactly like the girl wore in the dream (except the dream was a dress and the real girl wore blue jeans). The funny thing is at the party, I also wore a black shirt and blue jeans, which matched her colors too. Oh yes, she was also Chinese. To add to the drama, my friend who introduced me to this girl works with a car manufacturer, which correlated to the white building in my dream. Wow, I said to myself.

Anyways, I would really appreciate anyone's comment on this experience. I'm still thinking whether to really pursue this girl due to moral reasons and of course, I haven't told her of my visualization exercises! Haha

Thanks!

Talbain · Joined: 03 Feb 2009 Posts: 86

For peacerx10, I think you should join the Amargi Hilliers, Mind Power Seduction Forum, in this site. Its exactly dedicated to the topic you are talking about.
I sincerely think that you can make someone atracted to you and make someone fall in love with you just using the power of your mind. It just takes work and practice.

I don´t think this a "forcing the free will" stuff. You are just creating feelings into someone, doing what yoy cand do to atracct another person, the same way a girl use make up and dress sexy to atract men, and men join the Gym and dress well too to be more atracting to woman. I think is the same, just in another level, a superior level. its something like advertising do with us everyday. They are not "forcing us" to go out and buy a product. Jessica Alba and Megan Fox are not "forcing us" to desire them, they just do what they got. Thats mi opinion and really check that book.

Talbain · Joined: 03 Feb 2009 Posts: 86

Mayday, I´m really surprised about your story, it´s really amazing, almost incredible for a “beginner” (I am a beginner too, don´t worry). Last year, when I was starting knowing this subject, I visualized the kind of girl I would like to be my girlfriend. I visualized her very well, with dark and long hair and caucasian. Then I forgot it and my city suffered one the biggest floods in history, so I had to move on. Then I came to a new neighborhood, and one day I was walking at the street and a girl who seemed to me very attractive. I passed and cross the street to enter in a store. When I came out, I discovered her staring at me very deep. It was unbelievable and I was like “she couldn´t be staring at me, maybe is another persona and ¡I even turn around to check that!, but no, she was seeing me. Then I got nervous (I always do), and leave the scene. Later I remembered that ¡she was the girl in my visualization!, was exactly her, and I was so excited.

Days later whe face off in the street, buy none of us said something o start a conversation, but I noticed “her look”. Weeks later I stop seeing her and I believed she moved on, but then I find she had a boyfriend. She doesn´t have one the first time I see her (I investigated that), but now she seems like she is “running away” from me everytime she see me, and I only say “hi” to her one time and asked her something to start a conversation, but she ran away. I don´t know what happened. If there are someone who can help me too, I would appreciate it.

I have antoher question for you mayday. Did you visualized her, including the “feeling” sensation of her skin, breath, etc. I mean “feeling her presence”, or just visualizing the image of her? That´s an important point.

mayday · Joined: 15 Feb 2009 Posts: 5

Talbain · Joined: 03 Feb 2009 Posts: 86

Well mayday, one more time I´m really surprised about your story and how you go deep in telling how this things have gone for you.
Definitely you have an advantage because you have born with psychic abilities, you just got to learn to fully use them, I can tell just by reading. Althoug I didn´t born (at least I don´t think so) with psychic abilities, there has been episodes in my life where I can tell I used my “mind power” in a very little way. Beyond the typical episodes when you are watching the TV and you know the word the broadcaster will say, to the times I go to the church and I know what gospel the priest is going to read (I mean wich of the evangelist, I know there are only four chances but those times I really knew what name is gonna say the father). And something is really funny, there have been so many times when I want to call my mom, I do it, and she tells me in that very moment she was wishing me to call her, that’s very interesting, it has happened so many times.
But all my life I have been educated in the “logic and scientific” side of life, my formation has been very left brained, and during my childhood and teen hood I didn’t try to investigate anything about this stuff.

But the years passed by and I saw myself needing to learn how to “be successful” with woman, and I discovered some materials about other stuff, and few months ago, materials about THIS stuff, and I was all shocking for me. I decided to give it a try and as I wrote in the previous post you have read, I had some little success that indicate me I was on the right track. I also discovered that my fear of fail is my worst enemy as is warned in the book, and I thank your advice, bust the most of all, your feedback. Is that, and all the contributions of the members in this forum that really have helped me to gain confidence and results. To the “big goals” I´m still waiting with patience and calm (one of the most difficult things).

You asked me how my visualization about this girl was. Well, with THIS girl I only visualized her exactly, leaving the face to chance, but with all the other characteristics: my same height, thin, caucasian, black and long hair, a good body buy not necessarily big breast and big down there, I just wanted her to look ok. Then, as I told you I forgot it since the floods attacked my city. I made the visualitazion at the beginning of October, and the floods were at the end of the same month. A month later I moved to another neighborhood and then I met her. Then I can say it were about to months later or less that I saw my visualization became into reality (nothing compare with yours, ha ha). Then as I told you in the previous post, first all was ok, but suddenly she started to seem to run away from me, well, since she got a boyfriend who walks her everyday all over the street. Then I didn’t know that I could make someone attracted to me and lusty for me with the power of my mind. I believed it worked only for “meeting the love of my live”, but “what about to the specific girls I liked?”, and of course there was the morals issues wich they are no longer a problem since I understand the subject very well. Then by a “magic accident” (sure… it was an accident, ha ha) I discovered the Amargi Hillier´s book and Psychic Seduction, and discovered a whole new world the same way you did.

The other reason I didn´t went on with the girl, is that I met this other girl at my work (wich you have read in my post in the Amargi Hillier´s topic) and I decide to focus in her. Difficult situations occurred and now I´m once again trying to do something with her (the girl at my work), wich I can say I´m almost in love with her. That’s the principal goal I want to reach with my abilities, the one thing can add sense to what I am doing. The thing I´m waiting for come back here and tell all of you about my success!

The think which intrigues me is the fact you say in your live visualizations you said you only make precisely that, “the visualization”, you didn´t do the “feeling process”, wich at the book and at the community is well known that is the 99.9% important part for garanty the success of the technique (Amargi said that thing about the 99.9%). This is the part that surprised me the most. You make all those girl got horny just with your visualitazion. I would like to know more about this.

Also let me know if you had “scored” with one of the girls you made horny, if you have made it worth.

Greetings my friend and we will stay in tune. Very Happy

mayday · Joined: 15 Feb 2009 Posts: 5

Hi Talbain,

We've talked at length of where we've started off, so I guess we'll go to the specifics now. I'm on medical leave for 2 days, so I guess I've the spare time to share. Here's the interesting parts I created myself.

When you see a girl you like, you first imagine her naked in your mind. Then you start playing with your tongue inside your mouth, with the roof and floor of your mouth. This way, it can be very discreet. Let it twiggle up and down, side by side. This works best if you imagine with her nipples or down there. If you can cover your mouth, you can imagine kissing her lips (I noticed this really does work as targets kept touching their lips) If you were sitting down, you can caress your own leg as if you were caressing her breasts (she'll start twitching on her upper body part!). Another is imaging you pinky finger as her clitoris and constantly rubbing it. All in all, you must imagine that she's enjoying it. There are many other ways you can think of and I found these tactics are similar to Plazo's organ heating method, etc. The thing with this, is that you can improvise your own ways and its not too assertive on your mind.

Now to the heavy stuff by just using your mind. As opposed to what they say of being calm and reach theta level, I found it my case, it is not necessarily so. The thing is, the visualization must be to the best that you can. Preferably you must see her face in the throes of ecstasy while you visualize her. I always imagine she on a table and I'm doing to her standing, haha! But the mental influence you exert here must be very, very strong. You must feel a strain and pressure near your third eye while doing this. This way I mean is that as if you visualize and imagine with your third eye. You can somehow feel a force there. It's not easy to be discreet and looking at her at the same time. So for starters, you can conceal this by putting your hand on your forehead, pretending to be thinking. Haha. Aas time goes by, you should be able to look calm while doing it. This way I found to be exhaustive to your mind. And this method I discovered in the class incident. One thing I realized also, if you are doing all of this whilst listening to love songs on your mp3, the targets seems to have a bit of lovey dovey feelings towards you, as opposed to just pure lust. Funny huh? Additionally, when I'm drinking in a pub or something, it works even better. Maybe the alcohol gets your mind imagining more, though I don't necassarily advise you to get drunk in order to do all this. But let me remind you that these methods are for seducing a girl and not manifesting one into your life.

Well, as you probably can gauge from my writing and the fact that I had a NINE year relationship with my girlfriend, I'm a rather chastise although not too religious person. Also, that after the breakup, I MANIFESTED a new girl as apposed to psychically seduced any girl that I saw to make her mine. My main purpose is to have a long term relationship and not just take any girl as a practice target in bed.

I'm speaking for myself, but these are moral grounds that I constantly try to remind myself. I also read from many veteran players, that you won't actually be happy in the end if you jump from one girl to the other. What you want is to send MANIFESTATIONS for your dream partner, soulmate, etc. That way, you know you'll be happy and content with the person you really love. My main purpose for all these things is also to improve other aspects of my life like career, finance, health, etc. This is but a platform to see how far things really can go. Plus, there's this karma thing going around I somehow take heed, that buggers me a bit. So I don't wanna accumulate too many bad karma!

But of course, if it's of any consolation, I do get numbers from these girls I seduced and they are total strangers, mind you. But from there on, I just let them slip away. I maybe born a psychic, but just not as a player, haha! Hope this helps and was graphic enough!

Talbain · Joined: 03 Feb 2009 Posts: 86

Hey mayday, sorry I couldn´t write before, but my job was so very demanding that I didn´t have time even for check my email. Well, all your feedback still surprises me, especially your “adittion” to the “visualitazion and feeling” method. I always thought if you did what you say (playing with your tongue inside your mouth, rubbing your leg as if it where her breast, etc.) was “cheating”, but when I read you say that, I think this is amazing. It really helps to the “feeling” situation, as you are really feeling it. I´ll try that in my next “boot camp” day.
I have to say something. I don´t want to use MPS just for “getting laid” or jump from one girl to another. I thinks that’s funny and interesting to do, but its not my last goal. I won´t lie and tell you that I will not try that, but most off all, what I like to do is to have a stable relationship with a girl, wich involves love, of course. That’s why I´m doing this with this girl at my work. Previously I said Im “almost in love” with her. Well, maybe I am already in love with her, and want to give her my love. There is where I focused my exercises and “make it worth”. This is my great goal and the thing when MPS could really help me.
And of course, once I can handle this knowledge, I want to use it to improve other areas of my life, such as my career, my spiritual life, all that’s got to do with me. And use it to really grow and help others to grow.
I think we still have so much to talk and share, and of course, all the guys who like to join us. I wish you have recovered of your medical leave (you can use it to fix your health by the way). Stay in tune.

haywire · Joined: 20 Nov 2005 Posts: 183

Hi Peacerx10. These are pretty tedious questions you're giving out here, because in fact they can be answered in pretty much from all angles, in my opinion. Depending on your innermost (soul level) intent, which no-one can have access to but yourself by the way, I think that you would not in any case umm... violate free will, you would definately not do such a thing, because things don't really work like that. And if you have any fear or guilt in so doing what you desire, please go ahead and do it regardless of those feelings. There is no need for that guilt, because ain't the universe perfect afterall? Paragraphs for now... Smile

Yes it is possible. The only backfire you'd get in my opinion would be resistance from your target person's mind. If that person denies your intent so well as though it should not happen, then you would either forget about that person or something else would happen, for ex. you would find a new person coming to your life and you, yourself would forget about that person or perhaps something else could happen, but I do not believe that you'd be getting any backfire in any case, if your intent and your desire is absolute or so "piercing" that it will go through.

Am I being reasonably clear here, or is that text above hard to understand or interpret? Well I'm just a person among billions of persons, you might find better advice elsewhere, from someone else. But I did post my opinion.

My answer in a nutshell thus is: It is possible to do, and you will not violate anyone's free will. Simple as that. I hope this helps.

Written by: haywire

Talbain · Joined: 03 Feb 2009 Posts: 86

Haywire,

I have a question wich has not been precisely answered to me. Is it possible to have success with MPS with a girl who is in love with other guy? I´m not saying “a girl who has a boyfriend”, wich is the case, but I´m not talking about an “external state” or a civil state. I talk what about if she is in love with him.

That girl at my work has a boyfriend, but he is a jerk and he is always cheating on her, everybody knows it, even her, but she is always forgiving him, I think because she is in love. I have been trying to prove her that I am a better choice for her, what I truly believe, but the fact is I don´t know how much can I make her fall in love with me with MPS. I don´t want jus a one night stand with her, I want her to be my girlfriend and we can love each other.

Thanks, and see you all!

Bilbo · Joined: 04 Dec 2008 Posts: 115

Talbain,
I can answer that for you. Yes.
Keep going, don't stop. don't fret about it not happening, because it will happen believe me.
Don't put pressure on yourself as in do or die, just chill, relax and let go once your pms session is over Cool

(this is vital).
Take no prisoners Wink

Bilbo.

Talbain · Joined: 03 Feb 2009 Posts: 86

Thanks Bilbo, I´ll keep doing it and post the results as soon a I get it.

But you´re right, I think my problem is that I pressure myself to much, I put that feeling yo said of "do it or die", and I feel bad when I don't see the results or doubts start to attack me very soon. I need to relax myself. Thank you.

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