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PostPosted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 2:23 am    Post subject: HERMETIC LAWS Reply with quote

The Hermetic Laws are from Esoteric teachings and are one set of explanations for "how It All works" here is a standard set of the Hermetic Laws. These are often attributed to Thoth and are found in the Alice Bailey Teachings and various Mystery schools .


HERMETIC LAWS

1. The Law of Mentalism: The Universe is mental. We exist in the mind of the All. That part of us which is deity makes up the world and everything in it.
''The All Is Mind; The Universe Is Mental.''

2. The Law of Correspondence: We exist in all planes, astral as well as physical. Or rather planes independent of the physical.
''As Above, So Below;As Below, So Above."

3. The Law of Vibration: Everything is in motion and vibrates with its own rate of the vibration. ''Nothing Rests; Everything Moves; Everything Vibrates''

4. The Law of Polarity: Polarity = Power. All things are dual, everything contains its opposite. ''Everything Is Dual; Everything Has Its Pair Of Opposites; Like And Unlike
Are The Same; Opposites Are Identical In Nature, But Different In Degree;
Extremes Meet; All Truths Are But Half Truths ; All Paradoxes May Be Reconciled.''

5. The Law of Rhythm: All things are in some way circular, spiral, cyclic, and in order to function the best way, you must adapt to live in harmony with natural rhythms. ''Everything Flows Out And In; Everything Has Its Tides; All Things Rise And
Fall; The Pendulum Swing Manifests In Everything. The Measure Of The Swing
To The Right Is The Measure Of The Swing To The Left; Ryththm Compensates''

6. The Law of Gender: The law of polarity, applied. Everything has both masculine and feminine components and energies. ''Gender Is In Everything; Everything Has Its Masculine And Feminine Principle; ''Gender Manifests On All Planes.

7. The Law of Cause and Effect: There are no coincidences, nothing happens by chance. Everything is a cycle. For every effect, there is a cause, and every cause is an effect in something else. ''Every Cause Has Its Effect; Every Effect Has Its Cause; Everything Happens According To The Law; Chance Is A Name For The Law Not Recognized; The Are
Many Planes Of Causation, But Nothing Escapes The Law.''

(comments from Peggy Jentoft )
Other esoteric traditions such as Huna and Taoism and Buddhism have simular but not identical expressions of universal law.
I think the principle of yin and yang is perhaps an easier to grasp explanation of several of these same principles . I also like the concept of Myo-Ho which while encompassing these same ideas of polaritiy and gender reminds us that these qualities are inseperatable from the whole and that everything is interconnected .

Peggy Jentoft from solarraven.com
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Zygos



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2005 5:38 am    Post subject: Re: HERMETIC LAWS Reply with quote

d_redant wrote:
The Hermetic Laws are from Esoteric teachings and are one set of explanations for "how It All works" here is a standard set of the Hermetic Laws. These are often attributed to Thoth and are found in the Alice Bailey Teachings and various Mystery schools .

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4. The Law of Polarity: Polarity = Power. All things are dual, everything contains its opposite. ''Everything Is Dual; Everything Has Its Pair Of Opposites; Like And Unlike
Are The Same; Opposites Are Identical In Nature, But Different In Degree;
Extremes Meet; All Truths Are But Half Truths ; All Paradoxes May Be Reconciled.''


Hi,

Not to blow your "laws" out of the water or anything, but just a brief question relating to this law, and though this question my just be nullified by the laws that followed this one.

Do you not find that there are exceptions to the law of polarity? Though I mostly do consider myself a duelist, if one exibits two opposites simultaneously, and maybe further embodies two opposite elements simultaneously doesn't this 'created state' not have a duality at all; but instead represent the element found between all opposites?

Just a thought, and question. Smile

Zygos
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T.T orach



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 21, 2005 3:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zygos,

<Do you not find that there are exceptions to the law of polarity?>
No.

<Though I mostly do consider myself a duelist, if one exibits two opposites simultaneously,>
One cannot exhibit two opposites simultaneously no more than one can think of two things simultaneously. There is always a dominant, passive and neutral existing simultaneously.

<and maybe further embodies two opposite elements simultaneously>
One can do that, we all have both opposites within us, one is always dominant, and that changes back and forth.

<doesn't this 'created state' not have a duality at all; but instead represent the element found between all opposites? >
Yes, there is a neutral state, if that is what you mean.

Just because there is a Law of Polarity does not mean there can be no center point, state of neutrality. You know the center path is what most eastern religions and philosophies try to attain.

The law of polarity is simply a state of being, example; water is water when in the neutral state, ice in the negative state and steam in the positive state. In all cases it is water, the polarity of water changes what we call it. Everything existing has all three states within itself, some more easily defined than others. Smile
Hope this helps.

T.T orach
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Zygos



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 12:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

T.T orach wrote:

Just because there is a Law of Polarity does not mean there can be no center point, state of neutrality. You know the center path is what most eastern religions and philosophies try to attain.

The law of polarity is simply a state of being, example; water is water when in the neutral state, ice in the negative state and steam in the positive state. In all cases it is water, the polarity of water changes what we call it. Everything existing has all three states within itself, some more easily defined than others. Smile
Hope this helps.

T.T orach


Interesting. I guess I was taking it from an energetic point of view ala energy can be charged with the element of fire or water, but if the elements are meshed, then there is no polarity, only grey. Or you said neutral.

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4. The Law of Polarity: Polarity = Power. All things are dual, everything contains its opposite. ''Everything Is Dual; Everything Has Its Pair Of Opposites; Like And Unlike
Are The Same; Opposites Are Identical In Nature, But Different In Degree;
Extremes Meet; All Truths Are But Half Truths ; All Paradoxes May Be Reconciled.'
'

The question then further asks in my mind, is what is the opposite of the direct middle, or neutral, is there an anti neutral? Some point, or points that exist on the absoulte infinity or such? Is this energy the oneness/god? And how could something be the outside points on all sides of the neutral point in the middle, and yet the sum of all not be the same neutral in the middle. Sounds like a paradox...

Or are these laws just merely guidelines, set out for younger souls, as points to navigate against on their journey to enlightenment? Such as we tell young children that there is no square root of a negetive 1, or '1 + 1= ' 'a window'.

Just wondering, and thanks for the conversation.

Zygos
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T.T orach



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 11:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think of fire and water from a gender viewpoint, water being femine and fire as masculine. Combined they produce something totally different from themselves; steam- which is water in a positive polarity. It all depends on how strong the vibrations are in each element on exactly what you get as a result.
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The question then further asks in my mind, is what is the opposite of the direct middle, or neutral, is there an anti neutral? Some point, or points that exist on the absoulte infinity or such? Is this energy the oneness/god? And how could something be the outside points on all sides of the neutral point in the middle, and yet the sum of all not be the same neutral in the middle. Sounds like a paradox...

Good question, wish I knew. It does sound like a paradox.
I personally try to treat these laws as guidelines and apply them to everything in my life, constantly questioning and trying to understand this world from the viewpoint of the laws. I want to always be like a child seeking knowledge, for children accept new ideas more readily, like a sponge.
Thanks,
T.T orach
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Zygos



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Good question, wish I knew. It does sound like a paradox.
I personally try to treat these laws as guidelines and apply them to everything in my life, constantly questioning and trying to understand this world from the viewpoint of the laws. I want to always be like a child seeking knowledge, for children accept new ideas more readily, like a sponge.
Thanks,
T.T orach


I agree with that statement, always keep an open mind, and constantly drill your preconceptions with other perspectives to find the flaws and make your ideas into more perfectly crafted conceptions. So you use them as guidelines, not absolutes. Everyone has there own guidelines etc....I was mainly wondering if you had any info on the opposite of the middle/neutrality as I've got a ongoing energetic study into anti-elementals, and always like any outside imput.

Again thanks for your words and thoughts.

Zygos
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T.T orach



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2005 8:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I was mainly wondering if you had any info on the opposite of the middle/neutrality as I've got a ongoing energetic study into anti-elementals, and always like any outside imput.


<energetic study>
Try this site: http://www.svpvril.com/
Sympathetic Vibratory Physics
I'd like to read some of your work if you don't mind.

Appreciate the conversation,
T.T orach
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Zygos



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 7:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="T.T orach"]
Quote:
I was mainly wondering if you had any info on the opposite of the middle/neutrality as I've got a ongoing energetic study into anti-elementals, and always like any outside imput.

Quote:

<energetic study>
Try this site: http://www.svpvril.com/
Sympathetic Vibratory Physics



Hmmm, I'll check it out, though channeling is more my thing...I'll see if I can leach any understanding on it.

I'd like to read some of your work if you don't mind.

Sure, I'll dig it up. Though as I said its mostly theory and notes. More along the lines of creating the energy that is a true opposite, and trying to name it and give it characteristics. I have a feeling it may turn into a 13 element theory (6 elements, 6 opposites, 1 whole) or it may turn into more, as I have yet to see what happens when one combines an element with its opposite, as to if there is a whole energy created, or a different more complete whole energy created.....Was even theorizing that there may be 7 original, anti, and combined elements...again this is the thing about theory.



Appreciate the conversation,
T.T orach


As do I.
Zygos
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