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CryingFayth · Joined: 01 Oct 2009 Posts: 30

This was emailed to me from someone in my yahoogroups, and the person who emailed this to me did not know who the author was. But I rather enjoyed reading it and figured I would share it with all of you and see what your opinions on it were.

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Q: Why was I born?
You are a Spiritual Being and you were born or merged with a human body
in order to experience the Human Condition. You are not your body - you
are a Spiritual Being. You are what we call nowadays a Soul...

Q: Why was I born in MY family?
You were born there in order to experience specific experiences. Likely
your parents, aunts, uncles and siblings are the ones you have met in
previous experiences and once again you meet them disguised in human
bodies. They also are Spiritual Beings who merge with human bodies in
order to experience the Human Condition or life in matter. Living in
matter is called: Carrying the Matter Cross!

Q: What is the purpose of being alive as a human being?
The human purpose is to slowly become wiser and wiser and eventually
know how to avoid being born in human form. IOW: the Spiritual Being you
are then is finished with this kind of human life on this Earth or any
other matter environment...

Q: How many times will I be born or merge with a human body and mind?
As many times as is necessary to learn the lessons of Acceptance,
Forgiveness and Love. Love is Understanding! These lessons are not
learned by telling others what to do or by controlling them. They are
not necessarily learned by following religions either. All religions are
man-made and false. God does not write bibles or so called holy books.
Only people do! Most people are brainwashed from birth. This is what
needs to be transcended...

Q: Why is it that I become involved in some of these awful actions in
human life, like rape and or being molested by other human beings?
Life is a series of lessons and in order to learn these lessons we
experience all activities from both sides. There is a possibility for
example that you were the murderer or molester in a previous lifetime!

Q: How can I stop these seemingly endless actions we are subjected to?
You will be able to stop these actions by forgiving the perpetrators or
offenders. We must not forget that Life is an everlasting affair and no
one is better or more than another. We are all in the same school of
learning and must learn from each other. This is done by means of many
experiences in human bodies. It is up to you how fast you want to learn...

Q: What is the best way to forgive and forget?
We must learn to become emotionally detached and look at all things with
intelligence instead of with an ego-mind and/or with emotional based
thoughts or reactions. We must therefore forgive ourselves for any
trespassings and then forgive others. Ninety-nine percent of Human Life
is: Accept and Forgive!

Q: Do I need to bring into the open some of the things that happened in
my life and thereby make others look less in other people's eyes?
We do not need to bring anything into the open, but it might help to rid
ourselves of the secretive feelings we have about ourselves and others
(Guilt). It might help to discuss things with people who have
experienced similar situations. In the end this will give us greater
understanding. Understanding is Love and this makes it possible to
forgive ourselves and others...

Q: Are there innocent victims in life?
We are all victims of our own unawareness or ignorance! We are here to
learn and awaken to what is. We always get what we deserve for we are
the creators of the realities we need to experience in order to learn
from them. Our thoughts create our realities. Today's reality is created
by the thoughts of yesterday and/or previous lifetimes. Many of our
thoughts were created by us before we were born into the present body.
Our thoughts and deeds of our past create our character and our future.
IOW: God does not create our lives - we do...

Q: Is there a God who looks after things?
Q: There is no God as such. There are higher Beings - they do not judge.
This really means that you are your own creator and judge. You are in
the process of learning that this is so. We cannot blame God or others
for what we are or experience...

Q: Why have I not been taught this in Sunday School or in the Churches I
have attended?
Religions are about Belief - not about Truth! Religions are for people
who are followers. All followers are Non-Thinkers. There are Universal
Laws that need to be adhered to and when we are ignorant of these Laws
we run into difficulties until we learn them. Life is an investigation.
Failing to investigate who or what we really are will bring us birth
after birth into the different religions - until we begin to question
why we are living again and again and suffer in many of our lifetimes...

Q: How can I learn these Universal Laws?
By studying Life and/or Metaphysics or by becoming involved with similar
studies. Ask and you will receive. Life is a do it yourself job!

Q: How many people in the world know about these Universal Laws?
Relatively few people know these Laws. Possibly less than 5% of the
population know about them in some form or another. This is why the
world is the way it is. The world as a school is perfect for all lessons
are available and whichever lessons we need are determined before we
re-incarnate. This is why we are born where we are born...

Q: Are religious people better than non-religious people?
No one is better than anyone else! We only play different roles on the
world stage in order to get wiser individually. Being wiser does not
make us better or more. We are all "equals" in this universe. Equal but
different! We are all students of Life...

Q: Are we responsible for all our actions or deeds?
We are directly responsible for all our thoughts and deeds. Thoughts are
the energies that create our destiny. Fate is what happens on the way so
to speak. We are the Universe or Creator in human form. Our task is to
learn that this is so. The greatest majority of mankind is ignorant of
this and this ignorance is directly reflected in our world and in our
individual lifetimes...

Q: What are the most important questions?

... The most important questions Are ...

? Who Am I ?
? Why Am I Here ?
? What is my Purpose on this Planet ?
? How can I serve Humanity the best possibly Way ?

Something to think about...
We are The One Soul or The Infinite Subconsciousness (The IS) and in
order to become aware of our unconsciousness we choose certain human
life-cycles and thereby experience our own unconsciousness to eventually
become more and more aware...

The unknown must become known or the subconscious must become conscious.
This means that the Unconscious Creator within us must become a
Conscious Creator...

Derestanne · Joined: 29 Oct 2009 Posts: 50

Stand Back! Look Out! It's the BIG QUESTION! - Why Do We Exist?

You know every time I see or hear this I want to bring together some of our best and brightest in a great big huddle. Swami Vivikananda, Plato, Leonardo Di Vinci, Dr. Fred Wolf from "What The Bleep Do We Know?" and Art Bell and George Noory from Coast-To-Coast AM! Lets put all of our cosmic heads together and meditate on this one....!

If we didn't exist we wouldn't be able to ask questions like: "How come we DO exist?" So I think it's pretty safe to say we have a very great need to consider why we exist, which would probably be very very difficult to do if we didn't!

My point being: Our existence provides us with the opportunity to think and reason. That in turn leads to eventually answering these questions and having a much greater life experience of one kind or another.

And what will our children and humans of the future come to understand about the nature of reality and existence? Often I try to imagine that I am already hundreds of years in the future and that I have the benefit of the knowledge of the generations that came before me. I have come to the conclusion that humans of the future will have the power to think as a gigantic group consciousness, enabling them to solve vast problems and make quantum leaps of understanding.

The past however also holds many secrets. One of them is "Samadhi Consciousness" which is a very advanced meditation practice from India and Tibet. One who reaches this level of consciousness often has access to the Akashic Records, the sum of knowledge in all of the Universe.

In 1693 someone left a curious message at Old Saint Paul's Church, Baltimore, MD entitled "Desiderata II" (there was also a Desiderata I dated the previous year). Desiderata II reads in part:

"Spirit finds in you both it's agent and it's partner and to the degree that you are aware of this and act upon it your life is enriched".

And that pretty much says it all for me!

aim_it_for_good · Joined: 01 Mar 2006 Posts: 74

thanks CryingFayth for sharing
but i think ia agree with Derestanne and i also dont belive in the previous life,i belive that we're only here once and after that will be heaven or else
i also belive in god and yes i belive religous people are better and the wiser we get should make us know created all this and that god exsits and he is the one who created all of this
dont tell me that us being all that spritual and all of this great deal of science in every aspect of life was created by itself
that's my opinion :D

d_redant · Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 12:46 am Post subject:

There are previous lives. To deny this is big ignorance.

Many people do not reach the evolutionary understanding in this lifetime to know that past lives did exist. You and I lived many incarnations.

You could have been a black man in one life and a white woman in another life. You could be a slave in one and a mage in the other.. Many many lives you and I have lived.

Check out Past Life Regression which is a form of hypnosis which allows you to unlock the memories embedded into your subconscious mind about your past life experiences.

There are many other ways as well.

Past Lives is a very vast topic in itself.

I also believe in the Source/God too.

And that we all have a piece of the source inside ourselves.

Religious people are good meaning but they really live inside a Box unknowingly after being conditioned and groomed over the course of history.

Spiritual people live inside and outside the box and know NO Limits.

Of course the Source/God created everything but God isn't a Big Man sitting in the Sky judging your actions ready to send you to Heaven or Hell.

Heaven and Hell? LOL

When you have real understanding of the afterlife you won't say the same thing.

The main reason that fairytale was created was to keep people in check.

After all the Religious Political structures needed to create a set of rules to restrict people from doing 'bad' things...and barred from venturing into avenues they are not allowed to..

Meaning Religious people are not allowed to use their Brain to Think for themselves. They just continue to be sheeps..Just like the other mass sheeps in the world.

Don't get me wrong there are Spiitual Religious people. These two attributes can intermingle into one person...but for the hardcore Religious that believes in Heaven and Hell...You got alot to learn

Or you can wait till you die..and you'll be enlightened for yourself about the reality of things..

Didn't mean to sound harsh or anything..but I was just guided to type what I just wrote..

Enjoy

aim_it_for_good · Joined: 01 Mar 2006 Posts: 74

the only previous that i belive in is was in the ether plans were we all exsisted in our true form,but no there was no previous life inwhich we were humans if so why wouldnt we remember and if we dont remember why should we live many lives if we dont remember what we learned from this life?!
religous people are on the right track and in direct connection with god many people who search for spritually really attain it by developing connection with god which happen through being religous and yes god judges our action and send us to heaven or hell but he leaves us the freedom of choosing our path in life and the result will be upon our actions
but many religons was just made by people trying to control another people but only the wise will know the right way and the true religion from the fake one that's why we were created and that's why we are humans

aim_it_for_good · Joined: 01 Mar 2006 Posts: 74

i always like having a good discussion but i really belive in what iam saying,and may i ask what were you exactly in the last three lives of yours?!!
thank you

d_redant · Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 4:21 am Post subject:

Sorry you don't believe you existed in other past lives that you were human.

Why wouldn't we remember the past lives has many explanations.

Maybe you did not notice where I said Past Life Regression is one way to uncover your past lives....but you want to try to reason with me that there is no afterlife/re-incarnation.

Do some more research on the topic..You have not done enough I can see...

Why should we live many lives?

To get certain experiences which are for our growth and development (of the soul)

The human body is just a shell..When you die..You get another Shell..

Could be on this earth or elsewhere.. Depends on your Soul Purpose and more..

Many religious people are on the right track..in that they promote a direct connection with God..That's good.

In fact I consider many Religious people as also Spiritual...

Then there are the ones who really get it wrong..In that they promote a direct connection with God but with limitations and conditions.

That is not the nature of the source expressing itself in unlimited ways through human experience.

In all reality you are also the Source..Experiencing itself in an individual way..

So am I..and so is everyone else..

I will tell you something..

If you don't believe in Re-Incarnation you are no where near close Spiritual.

You're just Religious.

The only religious that suppose to exist is the Religion of LOVE.

Nothing else...

What punishes people is Karma (You get back what you put out)..not the Big 'Man' in the Sky sitting on a throne..

d_redant · Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 4:23 am Post subject:

Just because you really believe what you are saying does not make it right.

And no you may not ask my past three lives..That's confidential for now. Cool

Go do your own Past Life Regression sessions and uncover it yourself!

Experience..don't just talk about something you've heard from someone or read in some book..Investigate for yourself..

There are many other ways of uncovering Past Lives.

I like good discussion too but if you are here to argue your Religious point of Heaven & Hell....then it aiint the correct forum to do so..

Check other sites that support Religion alone..and not Spirituality.

aim_it_for_good · Joined: 01 Mar 2006 Posts: 74

and who made karma,why would god create all of this then throw it away for us?
may be you are right i dont know ,but i still belive what i known and felt
but i guess someday we will know :)
it was nice to have this dicussion :)
thank you

d_redant · Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 2:55 am Post subject:

The Source created Karma.

Why would God create all this and throw it all away?

I don't see the relevance of what you are asking.

What do you mean exactly? That's a very vague question.

d_redant · Posted: Wed Nov 04, 2009 8:25 am Post subject:

This for you aim_it_for_good

Reincarnation and the Bible

In many documented near-death experiences involving Jesus, the concept of reincarnation appears. In the NDE testimony of Jeanie Dicus, she was asked by Jesus if she would like to reincarnate or return. Sandra Rogers was asked the same question by Jesus during her NDE. One of the reasons many Christians reject the validity of near-death testimony is because they sometimes appear to conflict with their interpretation of Christian doctrines. But Christians are usually very surprised to learn that reincarnation was a doctrine once held by many early Christians. Not only that, as you will soon see there is overwhelming evidence in the Bible of Jesus himself teaching it. More Biblical evidence can be found in Herbert Puryear's outstanding book entitled Why Jesus Taught Reincarnation and Dr. Quincy Howe, Jr.'s excellent book entitled Reincarnation for the Christian.

Many Christians have misconceptions about reincarnation. One particular misconception is that it means people don't inhabit heavenly realms between Earth lives. The misconception is that people reincarnate immediately after death. It ignorantly assumes people will never be permanent residents of heavenly realms. But near-death testimony reveals these misconceptions to be just that - misconceptions. People are free to spend an "eternity of eternities" in afterlife realms before reincarnating to Earth again. There is freedom of choice. This is because time, as we know it on Earth, does not exist in the afterlife realms as it does here. The ultimate purpose for reincarnation is for us to learn enough lessons and gain enough experience from Earth lives that reincarnation is no longer necessary. Like a graduation. Reincarnation is not the goal. Eternal life means never having to die anymore. That is the goal - overcoming death and rebirth. Reincarnation is the method and
means to attain this goal.

Read much more at ==> http://www.near-death.com/experiences/origen03.html

DonnaM · Joined: 29 Jul 2009 Posts: 67

I have some questions too.

Why are we so desperate to denounce/deny our humanity?

After all, like it or not for however long or often that is what we are now?

Why is being human not a desirable thing?

Why is being something else somehow better?

Why would we be forced/or chose to be human if its so low on the agenda?

I m serious. I really want to know the answers to these questions?

Derestanne · Joined: 29 Oct 2009 Posts: 50

d_redant · Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2009 6:26 am Post subject:

Well most people don't realize how powerful the hu-man being is.

Yep we we human beings on earth evolving.

It's all about Evolving.

Human being is a very desirable thing to me.

This physical form is really complex physically and metaphysically.

For me it is not about being something else but somewhat of a tranformation of the spirit and body into one.

We are here on earth to master the ways of living and respecting all other forms of life.

It's all about Oneness.

Being human isn't Low on the agenda. It is a very worthy attainment of which we should all be very happy to experience being human.

Derestanne · Joined: 29 Oct 2009 Posts: 50

Perhaps this quotation from Deborah Palfrey speaking from the Afterlife will be relevant to Donna's questions:

(Here in the Afterlife)..."We are receiving "daily" encouragment to examine our values and to imagine ourselves exactly as we "always" thought that we should be. This is much, much harder to do than it may sound! You have to think about the most meaningful incarnation that you've ever had and then you have to think about what you didn't accomplish in the most meaningful and successful incarnation that you've ever had. This is work - really hard work!

"We are encouraged to look at other life forms - every other life form - and decide if incarnating in one of those forms "resonates" more perfectly for us than anything that we have ever attempted before! Some of us just break down and cry because we become overwhelmed at all of the available possibilities! It makes us realize how loving were the "Great Creators" that have provided us with such a nearly endless number of desirable bodies and forms that we might in one incarnation or another take upon us as our own!"

"The number of possible incarnations in various bodies and life forms is very much like being a child in the chocolate shop - you start to go a little crazy imagining yourself in so many delightful and intriguing different incarnations! Each of them tantalizing and delicious in all of their myriad possibilities!"

"For those of you who may care to know more about "human" incarnation, I can share that the human bodily form is effectively just about in the middle of the spectrum between highly advanced and relatively "primitive" life forms in lower density incarnations. What this honestly means might come as a complete surprise to some. If all sentient beings that exist are taken into account, only a "handful" of them would intentionally and purposefully choose to incarnate as a human body! In other words, we humans are a very small minority of all of the various types of beings and life forms that exist. The "demand" for human incarnation is therefore limited. There are no long lines of spirits waiting their turn to "obtain" a human body!".

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