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desolate_kitten
Joined: 01 Sep 2005 Posts: 63
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Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 2:09 am Post subject: Uncertain about getting tarot cards |
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Hi there!
I have a dilemma, and I hope someone would enlighten me on this. I have been interested with tarots for a while, but at the same time, are scared of them. My friend who's an open channel has her tarot cards and there came a time wherein her room became very stuffy for the tarots were getting more powerful, and the spirits were overwhelming her already. She burned the tarot cards and replaced them with meek Sakura tarot cards. She let me do her a reading, and the first time I held tarot cards, I felt some force and some "automatic speech" thing that made me speak nonstop, making the reading accurate ( as so she claims ). After the reading I wasn't so sure if it was me who spoke, but I was sure that it was my voice and the time I was holding the cards, I felt jolts of images flash through my mind, symbols ( some feelings) actually. Is this natural? hehe
I am contemplating on keeping a set of tarot cards for myself but I am afraid that it will attract bad spirits and cause trouble for me. Any advise? I'd be very grateful thanks! |
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T.T orach
Joined: 21 Aug 2005 Posts: 9
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Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 3:44 am Post subject: |
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Tarot cards aren't meant to attract spirits, but they are meant to communicate or connect your objective (conscious) mind with the higher mind (subconscious, astral mind) of yourself. These minds are not seperate but one, just existing together but on seperate levels or planes. As long as you are in control and not be submissive to spirits or other entities there is no problem, being a passive medium and giving yourself up to other energies IMHO is dangerous, although many do just that and have accurate results some are not as fortunate. There are other ways of achieving the same results without giving your own energies up to other entities. Back to the cards: The cards tell a story, a book sort to speak, as you progress through your spiritual path the meanings will become more clear. The symbols are a laungage the mind understands and if the right vibrations exist between the astral world and the physical world mind the meaning of the symbols come about in your conscious mind as a memory. Some memories are made of feelings, smells, or other associations that you have had with your 5 physical senses. When giving a reading your attention is focused on the question to be answered, the astral mind goes to work and finds the answer and comminucates that back to your consciousness the way that was just explained. Don't be afraid of the cards, choose a deck that may have special meaning to you or just start with a standard deck, whatever you feel is appropiate.
Hope this helps.
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desolate_kitten
Joined: 01 Sep 2005 Posts: 63
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Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 5:40 am Post subject: |
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hi! thank you for your reply. That helped me visualize the tarot as a tool that doesn't only tell the future, but is directly connected to our "higher selves"
I'm just a little fearful for I'm not a psychic, or anyone practicing, but I really am interested in keeping a deck of my own. I'm just afraid that I won't have necessary steps into preventing spirits into overpowering into the tarot decks.
Is it really true that spirits, when you cant control them, can cause you harm, when using tarot cards? |
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desolate_kitten
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Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 5:47 am Post subject: |
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hi! thank you for your reply. That helped me visualize the tarot as a tool that doesn't only tell the future, but is directly connected to our "higher selves"
I'm just a little fearful for I'm not a psychic, or anyone practicing, but I really am interested in keeping a deck of my own. I'm just afraid that I won't have necessary steps into preventing spirits into overpowering into the tarot decks.
Is it really true that spirits, when you cant control them, can cause you harm, when using tarot cards? |
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Katherinanyc28
Joined: 04 May 2005 Posts: 272 Location: nyc
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Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 9:18 pm Post subject: tarot reading |
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I have three tarot card decks and I keep them on top of my altar. I have spirits that help me while reading but I don't believe that spirits can corrupt my deck. Do not be afraid of the power you have, it is there for you to help others. |
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T.T orach
Joined: 21 Aug 2005 Posts: 9
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Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2005 10:21 pm Post subject: |
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There is a difference between spirits helping you and spiriits taking over, those helping pose no threat. In fact, you should get to know them better if possible. I have several Tarot decks myself, only one do I keep to myself for meditating purposes, another I give readings with (very seldom and to friends/family only), and the others are just there. Once in a while I'll pick them up to look at them when the feeling hits me.
<I'm just afraid that I won't have necessary steps into preventing spirits into overpowering into the tarot decks. >
desolate_kitten: Here's a site to check out, knowledge is a powerful tool, once things are understood fear tends to melt away. Let me know what you think.
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T.T orach
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desolate_kitten
Joined: 01 Sep 2005 Posts: 63
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Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2005 12:51 am Post subject: |
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Thank you so much for your reply! T. Torach : I have read the part on the tarot, and it seems just..initially, very "psychological". It was very interesting where the connection between how a person shuffle the cards and his/her subconscious actually plays part. Thank you for the helpful site!
It's just that I'm not very religious, that I'm afraid that I won't be able to protect myself the moment I handle tarot cards. My friend is a devout Christian, and she spends her time praying ALOT, to be able to protect herself from the spirits that want to get her. It kinda creeped me out, actually. On the other hand, she is an open channel while I am not. She can feel a great deal of spirits, while I have just "heard" some ( just two times in my life ). She has three decks, and one she burned because it was giving off negative vibes already. All that remained were Sakura Tarot cards ( which I felt when I held were not exactly good ( but very truthful), but promised to offer the "sharp-edged" truth , I kinda felt like they were ladies with sharp tongues ), and Angel cards which gave out only positive readings.
Katherina: Yes, I have felt helpful while doing a reading for my friend when she lent me her tarot cards.
Overall, I am still in deep thinking if I should get a tarot deck. My sister made me swear not to get a tarot deck ever, but I told her that I'm still thinking about it. Sometimes when I am alone, I walk through a bookstore and gaze at tarot cards, wondering what fits me, wondering what's "tame" enough for me. hehe  |
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Zygos
Joined: 16 Aug 2005 Posts: 226
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Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2005 2:08 am Post subject: |
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Hmmm...are tarot dangerous. Well I guess is a Ouiji board dangerous, depends on how you use them.
I've used the rider deck of tarot cards since I was age 7; (I was observing my older sister giving a reading, and just picked up how to do it.) I have never had a negetive experience.
The purpose of tarot generally is to distract your mind with the pictures, and let your channel have a greater flow. It seems that you had a very strong experiece, and maybe that scared you. I know personally often when I channel I will say things that I say to someone, that I will have little to no memory of later. This generally is a good sign, because you've let spirit talk directly through you without interfering.
It seems that you also have a very strong ability, and perhaps if the tarot is off putting use something else, be it runes, or other symbols.
Maybe even staring into a bowel of water.
For someone intuitive I would recommend never reading the book that comes with the cards (In fact I throw it away at first chance). Also there are many many different decks out there, maybe you may want to select one that is more of your energetic style.
Tarot is a tool, nothing more. The intuitive is coming through you, they are just something to distract your ego while you do so.
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T.T orach
Joined: 21 Aug 2005 Posts: 9
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Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2005 2:56 am Post subject: |
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desolate_kitten,
<Overall, I am still in deep thinking if I should get a tarot deck.>
Take your time, do your research, when you're ready-you will know.
I believe most people who are involved in this "Mystical Wonders Discussion Group" are very spiritual. Religion and spirituality are two different things, keep seeking the spiritual truth, follow what feels right to you, and use your mind as well!
With LLL,
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desolate_kitten
Joined: 01 Sep 2005 Posts: 63
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Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2005 3:08 am Post subject: |
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To both Zygos and T.T.orach, thank you very much for your insightful posts, your words have helped me get enlightened somehow regarding my interest for tarots. Although I won't be getting a tarot deck this month, I'll be finding the perfect timing when I'll get a deck for myself. I could just hear the calling, but I have still alot of things about me to work about before I proceed to get my first deck
I've been so hooked with this forum for people have been very open about these spiritual matters.
Again, Thank you!  |
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Katherinanyc28
Joined: 04 May 2005 Posts: 272 Location: nyc
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Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2005 3:16 am Post subject: reading |
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I have never heard of tarot decks being "dangerous" at all. I guess it depends on the intent and use for example when using it with magic spells. Which I have done many times for business and other things haven't ever had a problem. If anything spiritual entities would rather have your energies than the cards. If you feel you need protection while using the cards, employ the LBRP. If you need a copy I can send one to you. Just my opinion. Be Blessed Kat |
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desolate_kitten
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Posted: Thu Sep 08, 2005 3:46 am Post subject: |
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I honestly don't have any intentions of mixing magic spells with tarots! hehe:) I'm still a newbie, and I would still first want to explore the tarot, feel them, connect with them. The next, I will study further before I make some moves.
Well in the place where I am living, almost everyone's a devout Christian, and mystical stuff is actually associated with spirits, that can lead to danger. ( that explains my initial misconceptions that I am trying hard to correct and learn the truth about ) Ice age planet, perhaps.
Thanks katherina! I shall ask for a copy the moment I get the tarot cards.
Thank you everyone for your kindness & understanding  |
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desolate_kitten
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Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2005 4:21 pm Post subject: |
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Hi again!
An update : ( hehehe I just came home from a night out )
I was about to get a tarot deck for myself, or maybe just gaze at the available tarot decks in the bookstore and try to "feel" if I am ready, and upon arriving there, there were only two kinds of decks left! An oracle ( tibetan ), and a zen type tarot. I have already chosen the deck that I can most draw insights from , which is the Thoth deck ( I don't know but I felt that I can draw a million ideas from the images of the thoth deck. I found the Housewives Tarot cute, but couldn't associate them with my subconscious, or rather I just can't connect with it ). Sigh! Tough luck. There is just a shortage of good tarot decks in my place, as well as new age bookstores. Oh well, I hope in my next visit they'll have more decks to choose from and hopefully my Thoth deck would be there for sale  |
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desolate_kitten
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Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 9:44 am Post subject: |
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Hi!
I have gotten my tarot deck already! and I love it!
So far, I am so happy with it, because I can read for other people!
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