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Zygos · Joined: 16 Aug 2005 Posts: 207

Ok, here's my basic personal formula. May be too simple for basic users. Muwhahah....heh...

(Imagination + Intention) put some energy around that = plant the seed into the sky, and let it go.

Let It Go. If you don't let the manifestation grow, and let it go, you will never have anything to show.

Oh and like most things, if it doesn't happen instantly *shrug your shoulders* because you still haven't let it go....heh

Zygos

newman411 · Joined: 29 Jan 2005 Posts: 8 Location: new mexico

thank you..... i think i like it Razz

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Phoenix37 · Joined: 16 Aug 2005 Posts: 28

Might be the reason why my fate bending works better on other people than on myself. That and I already know where I'm going, and I'm happy with it. It's rough stuff, you have to be careful with it.

LeadtheWay · Joined: 03 May 2005 Posts: 36

Hahah, that is really easy, thnx! I've done it before and tonight I was imagining myself drinking a Starbucks with my intention of having one..... so today my mom got me one without me even asking... I know that one was fast.

- Melissa

EnlightenedLibra · Joined: 02 Feb 2005 Posts: 42 Location: By ST. Louis MO

I used to do things like that all the time and it worked more times than not but there were times it did not work and that I guess was because it was not for the greatest good.

I am about to embark on this again. Because there is alot that I have to fix.

Its like I have been climbing out of a pit of depression these past 8 months and the pit only got bigger and bigger these last 10 years I was in it!

Love and Light to all
Trish

Zygos · Joined: 16 Aug 2005 Posts: 207

Weird thing is sometimes you crawl out of that pit, and reach the surface. Wonder why you went down into it in the first place. Then after a while, you miss the struggle. On some level the struggle is something a lot of people crave, its something that drives us, and makes us who we are. Much easier to walk through a wall of flame, than to have the oppotunity to go anywhere. Freedom can be hard.

Then one day your bored, and you look down into one of the pits, sure people are struggling, but at least they aren't bored up here. You forget how hard it was in the pit, or maybe you remember but your bored, and you think "well it wasn't all that bad if it got me to where I am" so you jump down another pit......

Zygos

alleyes · Joined: 06 Sep 2005 Posts: 8

Zygos - love your last post. It definitely speaks to my condition. I wanted to do well financially many years ago and found a way to do that for a while. So I was then doing well financially (for me at least) and really liking it for a number of years, but also feeling kind of uncomfortable about some aspects of it and wondering why others were struggling so. And part of me wanted to remember what it was like to struggle with not having enough money. (the pit)

And see if I could pull myself out again. And also I wanted to buy a house. which I did. and then the economy fell right where I earned my money... and some other stuff happened.

and bingo then I was back to where I was struggling financially. oh! now I remember what this is like - so THIS is what most people have to contend with. How awful! Can I get myself out again?

So I am now still in the pit. And I really want to get back on the surface again. Where I can surf along happily!

EnlightenedLibra · Joined: 02 Feb 2005 Posts: 42 Location: By ST. Louis MO

Well then the Pit and the Depression Pit are two totally different things because I can struggle with money and want things but that is still alot better than the pit of depression.

I have had money and lost money, I have started over 2 times before. 10 years now since the last rearagnedment of my life. That was when my children died in the fire that should have took me to. It started off that I knew I would die because I was supposed to but I had to save one of my children and mother in law so I would just die later and I lived like I was gonna die, in life I was a walking dead person. I never got to die for real though then My son who lived started having problems so duityfully I started waking from the dead as much as possible. That was the Pit of depression.

Rebuilding my life after about 4 years was where the pit really began because I was a zombie before that. But Now nothing is ever as good as it was before. I is bearable and honestly no matter how much money I have I don't think I will ever be able to feel the happiness the way I did before.

Zygos · Joined: 16 Aug 2005 Posts: 207

Hmmm, have you communicated with your dead children? I know this isn't quite the same, in fact its not but I was guilty of neglecting one of my sons in my most recent past life. Neglecting to the point where he took my life at the end of it. I know when I realized that I had a lot of grief about it. What sort of father am I to do that to a child, when I should have loved him unconditionally, should have been for him. What sort of evil am I?

Then it was probably a year, maybe less later that I was thinking about it, and that invoked my past life son to me. He felt guilt about killing me, and I felt guilt towards what I did to him, and we forgave each other. It didn't make it all alright, but it helped. And its very unlikely that your kids blame you, or would have wanted you to die in that fire that day.

And maybe you've already reached that logical conclusion, or maybe it may sink in more coming from them. I know depression, I know its pit, and I was actually reffering to pits not just being money, or depression, but any major struggle we may become addicted to; or allow ourselves be drowned in.

Good luck in the travels for the rest of your life. And I hope my words may help a bit. By the way if you feel weird talking out loud to your dead children, write them a letter, and then burn it, let the smoke take it up into the air and to them. Though I wouldn't be suprised if they aren't looking over your shoulder while you write it.

Zygos

EnlightenedLibra · Joined: 02 Feb 2005 Posts: 42 Location: By ST. Louis MO

No I haven't really talked to my children though I would love to. I talk to them all the time. My oldest was almost 5 though he was a genius and acted like a 10 year old. My youngest was about 9months old and I feel very empty because she was an angel all of her short live but I did not have the dreams for her as I did for her brother. I loved her just as much because I wanted a girl very bad but she was not as old.

I have had a dream where chris was telling me he was alive and trying to tell me how to come and find him. He said he new what happened but he was alive and was ok. This was something for me.
Then 1 week later on tv new there was a story of a woman that found her son 16 or so who had died in a fire 10 years before.

I talk to them all the time and have wrote many letters. They send me messages when I am thinking of them. A song that I played at the funeral for them and to remind me. It comes on the radio even now and it came on alot over the years espically when I am hoping they know how much I miss them and how much I love them.

Love and Light to all. Trish

alleyes · Joined: 06 Sep 2005 Posts: 8

Trish - I'm so sorry you are dealing with this kind of grief and sadness. Even though I spoke about a "pit" of not having money, part of my inability to manifest income in the last few years had to do with feeling overwhelmed and scattered, just unable to move consistently in a single direction. It is not "merely" about money. Money and the flow of it in our lives can be symbolic.

And I have, in the past, experienced depression and painful feelings that lasted a long time. For me, liberation came with the a long (and continuing) practice of being very, very open to each emotion as it comes. If I felt it fully, feeling and noticing the sensations in my body, then the emotion passed.

I'm glad to hear that you do communicate often with your children. Grief can take a long time to heal.

Hugs xox

peace_on_earth · Joined: 09 Sep 2005 Posts: 2 Location: New York

Trish, I'm reading a book right now that has really helped me let go of past hurts and future worries and doubts. It may help you too, although I have to say my tragedies (although quite painful) were probably nowhere near what losing your children must feel like. The book is called The Power Of Now, by Eckhart Tolle. It has really gotten me "into the moment" which I have never been able to do before. It has helped me recapture the energy I've been spending on the past and the future, which means I have far more to do with as I please, in the present. And most importantly, it has awakened in me an even greater sense of joy and peace on a daily basis.

Another book that was tremendously helpful was Ask And It Is Given: Learning to Manifest Your Desires, by Esther and Jerry Hicks. What I got out of it was a deep understanding of our moods and how they relate to vibrations that we're emitting, and how they relate to what we're attracting because of them. There are 22 exercises on how to help you feel *just a little bit better*, no matter WHERE you are at the moment.

I suffered from depression for twenty five years and just finally got out of it myself (and off my meds). I would say the two primary things that helped were:

1) Continually working on raising my awareness--making it a primary goal. Learning everything I could get my hands on about vibrations, energy systems, manifesting, quantum physics, etc.

2) Participating in coaching/mentoring programs that got my butt into gear. They also helped me become very clear on what I really wanted in life, and then how to get there from here. Sometimes we just can't do it on our own, and need a little bit of encouragement and accountability to others!

Zygos, I would add one more thing to your formula: Full expectation that you will receive whatever it is you want to manifest. I guess you could call that faith or trust in the Universal Law of Attraction.

satguru · Joined: 15 Apr 2005 Posts: 25 Location: London, UK

Alleyes, I have a teacher called Nick Roach, a disciple of Barry Long's, and that's exactly what he teaches as well. You can read his website at www.nickroach.co.uk as there's a lot more there as well, very interesting.

EnlightenedLibra · Joined: 02 Feb 2005 Posts: 42 Location: By ST. Louis MO

Thanks All eyes and Peace on Earth, I do not always let this get to me and I am thankful that I had them. I will always have their memories and nothing will take those away but it just took me a long-long time to be able to have those rare bad days instead of a rare good day.

I have the book on the power of now and will look into getting Ask And It Is Given: Learning to Manifest Your Desires, by Esther and Jerry Hicks. I do not have alot of time to read but an upcoming surgery will give me 2 weeks off from work to read:)

Thanks for letting me vent here and responding kindly.
Love and Light and Hugs:) To all. Trish

Cheshire · Joined: 20 Dec 2005 Posts: 16

How long should I focus on my goals until I let it go to manifest? And could I get some tips on "letting it go"? Burning papers that the goals are written on is pretty popular, and probably why I'll end up doing. But i'm just looking into other options. Thanks!

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