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piscesgirl · Joined: 30 Jan 2005 Posts: 112

Yes, I mean I haven't had an experience where I realize I'm out of my body and control whats going on. I've had dreams where I can say "Okay I know I'm dreaming. This isn't real". I would love to have OBE's but is it considered on the "astral" when I'm dreaming? Am I out of my body then and just don't think about it? Thats what I'm trying to pinpoint.

piscesgirl · Joined: 30 Jan 2005 Posts: 112

I didn't mean to post this as a new reply. This was actually supposed to be with the topic of out-of-body dreaming. So if you read this just answer this: Are you out of your body when you are in deep REM sleep? Can you be and its just natural and you don't realize your out? Thanks, piscesgirl

skyblueff0 · Joined: 06 Feb 2005 Posts: 4

I wished I knew, I don't know but for the past few months, I've been hearing humming noises, but ive been able to hear high pitch noises(i hear that everyday, my ears can detect electric currency, so if some some electrical appliances is turn on, i can tell..I kinda got my ability after accidently stabbing my ear, inside my ears, but as a i got older, the noise got stronger), but anyways I've been hearing this humming or hovering noise just recently couple of month like i said above, usually only hear it at night,.

The thing was I think i successful astal projected or had an OoBE, the other night, after hearing that humming or hovering sound, i drifted of to sleep, admist my dream i felt as though i was flying, but then i heard that humming or hovering noise again, and thats when i realized i was dreaming, then all a sudden i felt this strange vibration in my body, and when i open my eyes, i felt this strange pressure on me, i force myself against the pressure, the only thing i remember was me moving towards the wall. I kinda freaked out, but then i told myself to stay cool, and so i did, but after awhile like a couple of minutes, i was just hanging there and didnt know what else to do so i told myself in my mind, to go back in my body, and poof**, with a blink of the eyes, i was in my body again. As I ponder for a little while, i kept hearing that humming sound, and the desire to close my eyes, and when i did i felt as though the same vibration starting again. After that I was clueless, I wasnt sure what has happen.

It was stranged that night, because my mind was so clear, and i had not a thought in my head, i just had a positive feel, but i don't know, i hope i get another OBE, and this time explore even further, but first of.....

I SAID I THINK I HAD AN OBE, can someone verify that i had an OBE?

piscesgirl · Joined: 30 Jan 2005 Posts: 112

Yes, it sounds as if you had an OBE. My husband has had similar experiences like the one you have described. The humming is common. It has something to do with our electromagnetic field and the astal substance that we produce when we come out. I have never had a OBE where I really know I'm out and it feels strong just slightly like I catch myself dreaming and its like that poof feeling you described you just come right back or go wherever you want. I just got done reading a book on it and my husband does it natuarally. I have had the humming noise, though. Sometimes I hear loud slamming noices right before I wake up. I suppose its me coming back in. Talk to ya soon. Piscesgirl

skyblueff0 · Joined: 06 Feb 2005 Posts: 4

hey piscesgirl, i was wondering, does your husband have any advice to do it generally and do you have any advice on meditating or ways to improve your charka?

i would love to astral project, as much as you do at will. And oh yea, if you replace astral projecting, with sleeping, like at night, will you get tired in the morning? I mean your body is asleep but ur mind is still very active. The reason why I'm asking is because, i figured if i can astral project, I can seek wisdom and knowledge from others, and probably untap my inner knowledge.

But the again, im only 16, and i still have to take my SAT and ACT, but lol its never to late to start, seeking wisdom and knowledge, is it?

Oh yea, does your husband or you know why after my OBE, i've been shocking myself, with just about half the things i touch, like a little static shock, but i dont know its weried, because i hardly get static shock, even when im around metallic stuff.

Well good luck to you, i'll wish the best for you, and your awareness of your OBE

piscesgirl · Joined: 30 Jan 2005 Posts: 112

Hey, Skyblue! My husband just naturally does it. He just focuses on a visualization such as a tunnel and he says he feels like he goes through it. I cannot recall any OBE's where I actually know I'm out. I think when we dream its cool b/c we are on the astral plane. I recently had this awesome dream that I was flying and partying with these people I never met. But, my advice would be to go to the bookstore and check out books on astral projection. My husband must have taken the book with him that we bought b/c I can't find it! Anyways, They will give you great meditation suggestions. The only problem I have, is like you, I am busy with school and working. They wanted me to do all of these rituals to get me started. I got some advice from Claric (I think thats the name) on this forum for easy meditation. You just breath in four times, hold your breath for two counts, let your lungs clear out four counts, hold two counts and so on. It really did help me relax. As for the chakra, I had mine cleaned during a reiki session once. Go under the healing forum and ask if there is an easy way to do it yourself. As for getting tired from projecting, I think this varies on the individual. I once got some advice form a medium who told me the more you meditate the less sleep you will need. Maybe if you are just starting out your body is already tired from being busy you may feel very tired the next day. But maybe as you get more used to it you would be refreshed because you are doing something to free your mind and this will make you feel good. Hope I helped! Good luck on your conquests at gaining more knowledge and OBE's!

palecricket1 · Joined: 18 Jun 2005 Posts: 16

to answer your original question, it appears to me that as you sleep, you project. The key to being consious of your projection is in routing your senses from your astral form as opposed to your physical form. In other words, you need to be consious enough to be vaguely aware of what's going on, yet unconscious enough so your astral form can properly project. I find that in training myself to have a slower transistion from conscious state to dream state and vioe versa, I often find myself waking up into an astral projection or falling asleep into one.
Sometimes, which is really weird, I am dreaming and i feel myself projecting in my dream and floating up, realize i'm projecting and, subsequently, that i'm dreaming. Thus it becomes a mush of a projection and a lucid dream and i usually just wake up mildy dazed and buzzing.

piscesgirl · Joined: 30 Jan 2005 Posts: 112

I need to practice techniques on lucid dreaming and astral projection to even do it. If I'm busy with school or my job I don't remember any of my dreams. I have lots of books on the subject and if I read it and do the exercises I can do it. I've never astral projected, but I know I could if I studied it. I feel like I have to learn everything and practice, practice. With everything. Its so annoying. I can do things once I know how. Its not that I'm not smart just for some reason things don't come naturally to me. I get lazy, too and don't feel like putting the effort to meditate b/c I'm tired or for whatever reason. But I'm so interested in metaphysics, I just have to find my nitch. Lacey

Nksagar · Joined: 08 Aug 2005 Posts: 104 Location: India

Forceflow · Joined: 18 Aug 2005 Posts: 31 Location: Texas

A quote from Puzuzu:

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I look at the world of lucid dreams as the inner etheric realm and AP as the outter etheric world. In lucid dreams we are seeing a mental reality based on how life has built the individual. So what one sees in dreams is of themselves and reflects their personallity. Thoughts, emotions, sensations all kind of play out as the mind were attempting to interpret daily life through the reconstruction of it through dreams. On the astral plains the perception from the self is personallity within reality. So what one expereinces is similarly of you but in a different environmental context. A world, unlike dreams where reality is made by personallity and reflects the inner self, the personallity is within, exposed to reality. Sense its still personallity or ego that is the driving force. What you expierence on the astral depends on what you desire and what you take with you. Seek conflict and thats what you'll find. Seek knowledge and thats what you'll find. You seek knowledge through conquest, conflict is what you will find. Conquor knowledge through understanding, knowledge is what you find. I hope this articulates this idea. Which this is just my idea its not neccessarily anything that other occultist may agree with.

piscesgirl · Joined: 30 Jan 2005 Posts: 112

Man I hate when I erace what I just wrote. I posted a reply and punched some button on my keyboard and lost it. Mad

I was saying thanks to Forcflow and Acid09 for the info. I love when I realize I'm dreaming, but it doesn't happen often. I really have to focus a lot of attention on it and it comes a lot easier that way. I have these great out of body dreams where I'm flying. One time I saw my husband in the realization that I was creating it and screamed, "I'm doing it, I'm flying!" But just as I said it I stopped and it turned into a regular old, boring dream. But it feels good to have a natural high since I no longer can get my hands on anything fake anymore, Those old party days are over, its good I guess. But I miss it. I have to be honest. The natural high is a lot harder for me to acheive. But thats life, right? Well if anyone has any other cool things to share about OBE, or dreams please share. Lacey

Anonymous · Guest

I got a book called "lucid dreams in 30 days, the creative sleep program" I can't think of the authors' names at the moment but if you can get on Amazon and look it up I'm sure you'll find it.

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Anyways its not a very long book or expensive and I'd highly recomend it to anybody interested in improving their dream expereince.

piscesgirl · Joined: 30 Jan 2005 Posts: 112

Wow, thanks, that sounds easy and cool. I'll have to check it out. Lacey

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