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Nksagar



Joined: 08 Aug 2005
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Location: India

PostPosted: Sun Sep 11, 2005 5:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It appear ur are very much attached to previous actions or karma.
with regards,
Nksagar
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piscesgirl



Joined: 30 Jan 2005
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 12, 2005 1:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nksgar, what do you mean by that? Are you reading me or just assuming I'm into this stuff from a past life? Please be more specific. I love this kind of stuff! Smile Lacey
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 12, 2005 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have no idea what he's talking about either. However a suggestion I would make, that is actually based off the book I reffered to before, is to make a dream journal. If possible start one tonight. Just get a pen and a note book and before you go to sleep tell yourself you're going to remember your dreams. The next day don't open your eyes. And recall your dream from the that night. Write it down or even draw a picture. Through out your day give yourself a "reality check" or basically ask yourself if you are dreaming then observe your environment. This actually only takes about a minute or two. Now before you go to bed the next night tell yourself you want to have lucid dreams. Again in the morning record what you drempt of and go about your day giving yourself reality checks. The more reality checks the better. But at least 3 a day will do. After about a week you should have a lucid or near lucid dream you find yourself asking yourself, within a dream, if you are a wake. This may wake you up in the mid of the night. Don't fret just allow yourself to go back to sleep and attempt to pick up on the dream where you left off. Always make sure you record your dreams. At this point now its time to be more ascertive in your desires to have lucid dreams. Before you go to bed tell yourself you're going to wake up. A simple phrase like "Its time to wake up now" will do nicely. When you wake up the next day tell yourself you are going to sleep.

By the end of your second or third week you should be able to recall your dreams in vivid detail and you should have had at least one lucid experience. Understand this is not simple process but it will work if you let it happen and don't try to force yourself into having LCDs. Basically you're attempting to condition your mind to remain or become consous while in the dream state of mind. Your first LCDs will probably only last a few minutes or even seconds as your anticipation will probably make you wake up. You also will only have limmited control over your environment. All this will improove with honest practice, patients and time. Eventually you will become so adept at LCDs you will be able to fly at will and in affect have an astral expereince.

It would be better if you got the book I mentioned ealier however I could help you along your way via email and PMs. Lucid dreams is more than about being aware while sleep. Its about self descovery and personal enlightenment as well as entertainment. After you become good at remembering your dreams and recording details you'll find that your dreams are like a kind of dialogue that plays your life story over and over. Dreams contain elements of the past, presant and future. By learning to remember and record your dreams you will be able to identify these elements and seek to understand them in waking life. As you get closer and closer to having high lucid dreams (a state where you are in complete control of your dreams and what goes on) you'll be able to confront details within your dreams to find a deeper meaning. As well as remember repressed memories and desires, you will discover yourself in a way you probably never thought of. Some details of your dreams may be unpleasant. All I can say is don't be afraid they can not hurt you and these are the things you should seek to understand first as they will most hinder your lucid dream process.

So out of this long process you can understand the full depth of lucid dreaming. If you perform magick in waking life you'll find that you can perform the same magick while in a high state of lucidity. You'll find that performing techniques for astral travel or pathworking is almost second nature. You will also have the same level of awareness of astral journies as you have for your dreams. The two worlds will almost seem to merge. The exception is that dreams will reflect what is within you and the astral plains will reflect what you desire around you.

Some tools to help you along your way-

Your dream temple: this is simply the place where you will be sleeping. How happy and comfortable you are with it will determine how successfull you are at LCDs. Spend sometime in your room or place of sleep and get a feeling for it. Tell yourself "this is where I will have lucid dreams" and clean up any clutter or things that may make this place unpleastant. The more you want to sleep here the more likely you are to have lucid dreams. Especially if you can convince your mind your dream temple is where you have LCDs.

Dream incubation: this the process of influencing what you dream about through the introduction of material objects into your dream temple. Just think of a dream you'd like to have and find objects that represent your desired dream. Place them near you, even under you pillow, before you sleep and your dream should reflect what you desire. Part of achieving lucidity is always keeping your dream journal near you and in your dream temple. It represents the whole of your dream life and basically has your dream psych composed in words or pictures. It is a crittical part of incubating LCDs.

Role Playing: Simply act out your dream in real life before you sleep. Actually go to the places you wish to dream and act out what you will be doing there. This is great for romantic encounters.

Mental notes: As things arise in your mind about dreaming and your life make note of them in your journal. Your ultimate goal is to understand what you dream of.

Help should you need help figuring this stuff out don't be afraid to ask.
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Nksagar



Joined: 08 Aug 2005
Posts: 104
Location: India

PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2005 3:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

piscesgirl wrote:
Nksgar, what do you mean by that? Are you reading me or just assuming I'm into this stuff from a past life? Please be more specific. I love this kind of stuff! Smile Lacey


Just meditate on different chkras if you are advance soul u will have ur own answers in ur experience of meditation ur doing in sub conscious mind.Ur astro chart can also predict ur advance or higher soul nature.Ur behaviour also reflect the same if appreacietd by ur friends as noble soul. all these aspects relflect your past experience in past life which is blossoming etc.

with regrads
Nksagar
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piscesgirl



Joined: 30 Jan 2005
Posts: 112

PostPosted: Tue Sep 13, 2005 6:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Acid09: Thanks for all the tips. I will definitly start to use them. I already keep a dream journal. I know that reminded yourself daily helps with being able be lucid in a dream. Especially when I was reading my lucid dream book and saying the mantras to myself like, "I will have a lucid dream tonight". It definitly works. I probably will be asking you lots of questions. I want to enlighten my life as well as try to have romantic encounters. I already do, but I can't control them as much as I'd like.
Nksagar: Thanks for the tips also. I have several astro chart of myself. Do you know where in the chart it determines what kind of soul you are as far as advanced,etc? Isn't it different in India than from western astrology? I only have a western chart made.
Hope to talk with you both soon, Wink Lacey
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