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Money_321
Joined: 05 May 2009 Posts: 6
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Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 12:40 am Post subject: Any Evidence for Psychic Abilities? [If yes, I need to know] |
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I think my subject of the topic is obvious.
People (with psychic abilities) do not only succeed by their mind, but also by the help of the physical world.
So how can I know the mind manipulates things/people? Because almost any manifestation or mental seduction/manipulation is supported by the physical realm.
E.g: First you program your sub-mind, and later some of your behaviours change for reaching your goals. But that is not psychic because some people consider it mystical.
Manifestation and mental manipulation are quite common. That's why I question if there are any varied results you got from those two abilities without any physical contact or event.
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snowtiger
Joined: 21 Feb 2010 Posts: 3
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Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2010 10:58 am Post subject: manifestation |
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Hi,
Interesting post. Its sounds to me like you have an idea that psychic ability is the ability to manifest things out of thin air. Would I be right to conclude that?
Where did you get that idea? I'm new here and have noticed a lot of articles on manifestation. You are right, I think, when you say that manifesting is also a normal physical experience. We probably shouldn't mystify the process.
My understanding is that psychic abilities are a whole range of experiences that show us a much deeper part of life. I understand it as a sensitivity that can help us access what I call 'universal knowledge'. But that usually this knowledge is very unpredictable. Whether it be about the future, past or life event. Manifestation is one aspect.
It is my perception that people are hooked on manifesting because they want stuff. They want a relationship, money, power, spiritual power, etc. We are very greedy beings. Of course most of us would deny that our motivations are actually quite greedy, we like to think of ourselves as 'perfect'. But we hope that there is a magical formula that can get us what we want, called 'manifestation'.
That's the shadow side. I still have to make more sense of the positive side of manifesting. To be very honest I have never really met anyone who didn't want something, who had their ego in check. Myself included. Also I'm learning so if anyone can enlighten me too.
I sincerely hope I don't sound condesending. Hope I am on track with this reply.
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Derestanne
Joined: 29 Oct 2009 Posts: 50
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Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2010 12:44 pm Post subject: Re: Any Evidence for Psychic Abilities? [If yes, I need to k |
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| Money_321 wrote: |
I think my subject of the topic is obvious.
....Because almost any manifestation or mental seduction/manipulation is supported by the physical realm.. |
Now this is really different! All of my life I've heard, "Psychic is rubbish because there is no PHYSICAL evidence for it!" I feel like I'm walking into a major trap but here goes anyway!
First, if the "purported" psychic activity does not become apparent or evident to at least one of our 5 common senses (sight, sound, smell, touch, taste) then how is anyone going to know or become aware that something psychic has taken place? This has been the unofficial "litmus test" from the beginning!
You can experience a clairvoyant vision and the "experts" will tell you it was because of unusual chemical activity in your brain, drugs, alcohol, etc. Near Death Experiences are often dismissed as "wishful thinking" by someone whose brainwaves had briefly flat lined. Some of the most valuable (to the experiencer) psychic (or mystical) experiences are those in which the person found themself removed from reliance on the 5 senses and then projected to an alternative dimension of consciousness which often has no correlation with the physical world as we understand it.
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| ....E.g: First you program your sub-mind, and later some of your behaviours change for reaching your goals. But that is not psychic because some people consider it mystical.Ty. |
When we go to school the result is often a change of behaviors. If you survive an airplane crash your behavior might change and you will choose not to fly any more. Our entire experience of life has a tendency to influence and change our behavior, or at least to cause us to question the way in which we think and act. Psychic never implies that the Universe revolves around us and our intentions nor that the converse is always true. And one can have a very high degree of mental control or discipline and still find their life path is not etched in stone.
If you are of the opinion that the mystical can somehow be eliminated or bypassed with application of substantial mental powers I believe you will ultimately discover that the mystical exerts an influence far greater than anything that the human psyche is capable of. It is like trying to outshine the Sun with a light bulb. |
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Foresight/Catherine
Joined: 03 Mar 2010 Posts: 8 Location: Connecticut
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Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 7:52 am Post subject: Any evidence for psychic ability |
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Hi Money!
I also get the impression that you've got some confusion between manifestation and psychic ability. Hope I can clarify things a bit for you.
Psychic ability is primarily perception of things by methods other than the 5 senses. While you may use these abilities in manifestation or other metaphysical activities, the psychic part is the perception( ex: seeing a vision of a family member currently in danger; thinking of a friend you haven't talked to for months 5 minutes before they call you, etc)
There's not a question here that you're reprogramming your actions to make your impressions come true- many psychic experiences happen simultaneously with the physical world, leaving no time to create the physical experience ; and most involve phenomena that could not be corrected for on the physical plane except for by methods so extreme as to make psychic input the easier, more logical explanation.
If you want more evidence, you could check out the studies done with Zinner cards or the government's experiments in distance viewing.
As a professional psychic with over 40 years in the field, I can tell you that it's not all just wishful thinking Psychic abilities do exist and there's more going on here than physical or psychological manipulation
Hope that helps some
Catherine
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