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Mysterious · Joined: 08 Apr 2010 Posts: 79

Yes you are right about needing a gale to lift a person off the ground......but i was thinking it more as a helping to 'lift off' kind of thing you know....a boost to help you get up...even though it is impossible to do it alone with areokineses i believe it can somewhat help a little (though thats not what i said before so i am now correcting myself Smile

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Also yes i agree that areokineses nor hydrokineses is really not my element but i dont know what my element is anymore....but i am sure that if i keep at them for a very long time then something will definitely happen.....you know the more time you spend studying the better marks you get (not always true) but i dont think i can keep at them now....but someday (maybe after uni) i will come back to learn them (even if only a little i still want to know how it feels like being able to tune into an element)
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Sorynzar · Guest

Often your star sign can shed some light as to what element you are closely affiliated with, It is not always the case, but I find it to be true more often than not.

Caerdon · Joined: 18 Sep 2009 Posts: 120 Location: Canada

Zodiac aside, not everyone has elemental powers. Atleast not naturally.
to know if you are attuned to any elements, you usually can 'feel' them. have some sense of them.

Mysterious · Joined: 08 Apr 2010 Posts: 79

Well i think its very rare for anyone to have elemental powers naturally,
usually the rate of learning is different like some people learn them faster than others......i think anyone can master them (though it would be very difficult and would require A LOT of patience and will power ) but it isnt impossible
hahahahahaha my zodiac sign is Cancer....which is the water sign....but i dont think it helps much since water really hates to stay still just for one second esp. when i am trying to sense it.....sometimes i can feel it pulling me along but i dont think thats anything cuz i am sure if anyone stands still then they can feel the waves (talking about the swimming pool btw since if i try at home would be caught in a second)
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Caerdon · Joined: 18 Sep 2009 Posts: 120 Location: Canada

Okay, so, water works differently than the other elements. Actually, they all work differnetly than with eachother, although wind and fire is somewhat similar, you just work different parts of the same thing and you effect it. they are actually shockingly similar for being so vastly different.
hmm... Anyway, for air you take control by being a fixed point and concentrating it to a certain way, sort of like concentrating a working field around you, spreading your mind to cover it... for fire it's almost the same thing except the concentration is condensed to a near singular point instead of being spread out. Well, for nominal control, nothing too advanced, so don't try doing that in a middle of a forest fire or a tornado, you'll toast yourself alive or get literally blown away.
for water... it's like making a break point, i guess you can call it, that can alter or change the flow. Or you can attune the water within yourself to the water around you, but there is the obvious dangers in that if you lose control or go too deeply too quickely.

ofcourse this is how i precieve on doing it, atleast for the beginner stuff that i'm willing to share. then again, i was born with some innate elemental control that just needs refinement.
But, hopefully this helps a wee bit.

Now, for levitation, you just need to, how do i put this, lessen the hold of your personal gravity to less than the natural downward pull, in which i call a temporal gravitational anomaly. Basically, you make your "G-force" negative (everyone experiances 1G standing still on earth) or possibly 0G.... though you'd need a way to anchor yourself to one spot... OH! You make a blip in the air around you in the gravitational pull that is 0G, inwhich you are suspended in the no-grav air bubble, but the gravity outside of it should be enough to hold it in place so you don't go floating off into nothingness. though you'd need to place a negative g zone under you to keep the downward force from pushing you to the ground.

And how do you do that, you ask? Well, for those who have been following along and are clever enough to figure it out, hush and don't spoil it for the rest of them!
alright now, for the rest of you, just think, how does gravity work? Yes, yes, we all know gravity is the force of a larger object attracting and pulling on a smaller object. But how does it work? what makes it happen? Well, it's the same answer on why the stars don't pull and crash into eachother! And what governs them, you say? That's right! Dark matter! It is the invisible stuff that keeps the stars from amassing into one giant cataklysmic cluster.

Now, back away from the cosmos and to gravity here on earth, all you gotta do for levitation how i described is by displacing dark matter. Well, displacing the echo that we feel..

okay, if you where able to follow along with that, congratulations, i owe you a cookie.

Sorynzar · Guest

Gravity is actually one of the weakest forces in our universe, it is a signature of a force which is emanating from another theoretical dimension. Dark energy is the driving force which pushes, and is responsible for the expansion of our universe. It is like gravities polar opposite, and is in fact, more powerful than gravity. If one was to manifest dark energy around themself then levitation would naturally ensue. The only trouble is I feel it would have a warping effect with the two forces creating a space time disturbance, loss of time, etc.

Caerdon · Joined: 18 Sep 2009 Posts: 120 Location: Canada

the application of dark energy is more subtle than that, and highly more dangerous. at most, there is a mere fragment of dark energy accessable here on earth, in which you have to filter through the natural energy fields on earth, as well as the solar energies from the sun to use it. it is also, if you try manifesting any of it, the equivilant of quite a few atomic bombs going off. atleast the concentrated physical manifestation of it is.

Mysterious · Joined: 08 Apr 2010 Posts: 79

Hello, first off really sorry abt the late reply....( i am currently in study mode these days so my time on this site has been curtailed to once a week)
And now Caerdon about your explanation on gravity and dark matter, I wont say that i understood all of it, but it did give me a clear picture on what I have to do, actually I had tried to....you could say cancel out gravity before (months before btw just playing around) and well i did feel something (although it was taking a REALLY long time), i dont think the air bubble has to be big it could just be like one inch around your body right? Though i didnt manage to do that i was able to get the slight 'feel' of whats its supposed to be like (although i do admit at that time i wasnt really sure if it was real or if my mind was just playing tricks on my nervous system)
Thankyou for the explanation on how to control (cant find a better word) elements it was really helpful and i will remember ur words next time before trying it.

Thankyou also xxxx for the info on gravity and dark matter, i agree with you on the fact that if you cover yourself with dark matter energy then it could cancel out (or go against since its more powerful) gravity.
the only problem is though....i really dont trust myself in being able to even sense dark matter let alone control it.....though for all of those who can control dark matter, its a thumbs up since you get levitation for free!
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Caerdon I can't say that i understood all of your explanation (I dont think my interpretation is all correct) BUT since i understood half.....does that mean I can get half a cookie?
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adamska954 · Joined: 19 Feb 2011 Posts: 9

Well now levitating that i havent heard about in years lol and from what i recall the only way to levitate was to meditate for 22 years pretty much non stop to strengthen your mind and a clear and pure mind set once youve been able to do that then you would be able to levitate but not for long about 2 inches of the ground and thats about it idk how much of that is true but that was what i heard years ago

happyfeet · Joined: 15 Feb 2011 Posts: 16

i think we have all wanted at some time in our lives to possesss what seems

to be super human capacities .

whether levitation is possible or not , i don't know .

the question i ask myself is ; why would we want to be able to do this ?

Mysterious · Joined: 08 Apr 2010 Posts: 79

I know it has been months since I last posted anything, but I would like to once again thank all of you for your insights.
No I have not been able to levitate yet, but I do think it is more of due to me not practicing..... Very Happy

Lets just say I have been having serious exams and I got out of touch with this site; and thus psychic/supernatural things.

Now at adamska954: Well 22 years are quite a long time......I think it matters more on how much output you are able to gain from practice. (Of course time counts too) but if you are able to concentrate seriously for one hour everyday, and keep on doggedly trying it will eventually work. Smile

(hopefully before we all turn old and grey Very Happy

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At happyfeet: That is quite a intriguing topic......why do we want such super human powers? Especially since they will not be able to really help us practically, (you are being robbed and you know areokinesis. Is being able to throw a small breeze at the robber (ignoring the time taken to create one) really going to do anything?) A horrendous analogy if I do say so myself but its the best I could come up with for now... Smile

Well, another similar question would be, why are we wasting resources trying to get to space? Why are people climbing mountains at the risk of their life? Why do we waste time chatting on this forum?
Well it all comes down to this.....our selfish desire to explore. We know that even if we found another planet, it won't change the fact children are dying. We know that if we climb up a mountain, all that we will get is a world-wide recognition for a few weeks.
I know that even if I do levitate all that I will be doing is satisfying myself. No one will believe me.......but just like others I have a thirst for learning; doing as much as I can.
I would love to hike, camp hand glide, even visit a jungle if possible. But since I cannot, I turn to things I can do, which are internal. Such as healing, levitating etc.
Hahahaha Very Happy

I wrote quite a lot didn't I?
Well I do hope it helps answer your question a little....
Mysterious. Smile

P.S: We are also chatting on this site to feel a sense of belonging and to learn more as well as discuss our hobbies/interests without fear of rejection.

Renard_le_Rouge · Joined: 14 Mar 2011 Posts: 41 Location: Alaska, USA

I recently have been studying raja-yoga, and i think that i may have figured out how one may EVENTUALLY attain the ability to physically levitate.

First things, first...

You must be able to hold asana for a minimum of 30 minutes ( an hour would be much better, baby steps though Very Happy

) I recommend the "Easy Posture" from hatha yoga, simply cross your legs and sit up straight, being sure to maintain a firm yet relaxed posture.

Then begin to chant this "Om Nama Ha Shiva Ya Om". Be sure to chant from deep in your voice box and to mentally repeat it at the same time. This is the mantram recommended by Christopher Hyatt, the mantra was recorded by Israel Regardie, Crowley's personal secretary.

I prefer to do all this after an hour or so of hatha yoga poses, along with various exercises to ease muscular tension throughout the entire body. Apparently, thought and emotional "patterns" have physical manifestations, one of such manifestations being muscular tension. The theory continues proposing that ridding oneself of the tension rids oneself of the thought/emotional "patterns" associated with that particular area of tension.

ANYWAYS enough rambling on...

Going through this whole routine and then meditating for 30-45 minutes daily allows the practitioner to experience a sudden rush of blissful euphoric sensations characterized by a sensation of floating, any pain or discomfort will evaporate, and the mind will be incredibly focused.

But remember this is just what I've put together given my limited experience.

Mysterious · Joined: 08 Apr 2010 Posts: 79

I see, hey you know that actually makes sense! Very Happy

After an hour or two of relaxing all of your body muscles through various exercises, the body is bound to become less stiff, thus the flow of energy is easier/faster/better. And since we only focus on body movement are minds come out sharper too. Smile

If we practice in such a state of body and mind, trying to levitate everyday (or quite frequently) then there are bound to be results. Now the only problem is willing oneself to actually re-search on these exercises do them without interruption, perpetually. Very Happy

*sigh* I guess that means summer vacation, I would probably have to do all of this in the cover of night, or the early rays of dawn. XD
Thank you for sharing this Renard_le_Rouge, I think what you wrote is quite important and it may have been one of the many reasons why I couldn't get a single result. We can only do something after being prepared. (i.e: we can't sit in an exam without studying and expect good marks. Smile

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Are you trying to pursue this amazing ability too? If so then I wish you Good Luck! The human mind and body is so absolutely wonderful......it never fails to inspire awe within me. (Subhanallah!) A word we say when admiring something created by God. ^^

I do have some qualms about the chant though......do you suppose we can achieve that state of mind without it? The reason is quite childish if I must say so myself -I cannot do anything that would raise suspicions from my well-meaning family. And chanting something is simply out of the question...... I wonder what they would come up with if they ever hear me doing that. Rolling Eyes

Renard_le_Rouge · Joined: 14 Mar 2011 Posts: 41 Location: Alaska, USA

I'm not quite sure what it is I'm after to be honest. At first it was power and reassurance that I wasn't just crazy that led me on in my search, now it's knowledge, wisdom, and personal strength.

As a matter of fact, while there is no restriction on exactly when the exercises must be performed, dawn and dusk are actually the best times to do them. Same thing here with summer vacation Smile

As far as the chant goes, I recommend practicing inner chanting (i'm sure there's an official name for it but whatever). I think this would be like a form of "visualization" but dealing exclusively with sound. Mentally repeat the chant while imagining your own voice, clear and resounding, pronouncing each syllable. In actuality, verbal repetition of mantras is considered the lowest form of chanting. The "inner chanting", when performed properly, is considered the highest form of mantram.

Hope that helps a bit
Good luck. Cool

Mysterious · Joined: 08 Apr 2010 Posts: 79

Oh.....that kind of chant would be very powerful. (I mean mind-set wise. I wonder how many different things we could do at that level. Very Happy

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Your introduction into this side of the world seems quite similar to mine. At first I really thought of myself as crazy, and doubted all of those wild experiments I did. Though somewhere inside me, I was excited; oh so very giddy with the thought that such things are possible, and I do think that is what made all of my 'trial procedures' a sucsess. XD
Before I read and re-searched for real-life practice, now I am doing it all for knowledge, and making myself stronger as well. Smile

Well yes, now that you mention it, dawn and dusk are points of the day when we are the most active mentally. (well, if we manage to get ourselves out of 'sleep mode' that is.) So they would serve as excellent times to practice. ^^

Oh yes and it does help, thank you. Good Luck on your quest (whatever it may be) as well! Very Happy

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