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d_redant
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 9:53 pm    Post subject: Views on Cannabis Reply with quote

Proteus wrote:
d_redant wrote:
Well i'm skeptical myself (and i'm not normally a skeptic unless something does not feel right)... so without straying lets see if Magister actually replies now..I highly doubt so..but I could be wrong..

I could go into more of why I am skeptical but that does not matter for now...

Oh and the list of other drugs. I had my own reasons for asking.. I don't consider cannabis a drug though...It's a plant..a herb...

As for being otherkin that matters alot. It was relevant to him describing the way his 'abilities' work.. Otherkins are a whole next story and is a very wide and diverse field... I'm also otherkin bye the way..

Anyway i'm straying..

As for Amphetamine doing funny things to perception I fully agree (never had the urge to do this myself and don't think I ever will)


d_r can you speak more about your view of cannabis? While you don't consider it a drug, do you not think it's bad for the body since it contains toxins? Or does it not have an effect on the energy body when used in balance?

I am just looking for other views...as I often ponder this.



Hmm my views on cannabis.. ok

Its a sacred herb used for thousands of years by mystics and adepts all over the world. It is a feminine plant.

It's used in various traditions as a sacrament and in spells,etc,etc..

As for it being bad for the body because it contains toxins you are probably referring to stuff like skunk like PeacefulChange mentioned. Stay away from skunk.

Compared to cigarettes Natural Weed is harmless.

It opens the door to the soul. It is a plant and put here on this our earth for our use. Just like the many other shamanic plants that exist. It increases your psychic abilities and much more..

It does not have any negative effect on the energy body or physical body. Check out Marijuana Myths on google...

I would sum it up to say that it depends on how you use it. You have to have a mental mastery to be able to get the most from weed. This comes with experience of flexing your mental and psychic muscles for a while.

That's about all i'll go into this.

Enjoy.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 11:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice d_redant


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 4:09 am    Post subject: Re: Views on Cannabis Reply with quote

d_redant wrote:
Proteus wrote:
d_redant wrote:
Well i'm skeptical myself (and i'm not normally a skeptic unless something does not feel right)... so without straying lets see if Magister actually replies now..I highly doubt so..but I could be wrong..

I could go into more of why I am skeptical but that does not matter for now...

Oh and the list of other drugs. I had my own reasons for asking.. I don't consider cannabis a drug though...It's a plant..a herb...

As for being otherkin that matters alot. It was relevant to him describing the way his 'abilities' work.. Otherkins are a whole next story and is a very wide and diverse field... I'm also otherkin bye the way..

Anyway i'm straying..

As for Amphetamine doing funny things to perception I fully agree (never had the urge to do this myself and don't think I ever will)


d_r can you speak more about your view of cannabis? While you don't consider it a drug, do you not think it's bad for the body since it contains toxins? Or does it not have an effect on the energy body when used in balance?

I am just looking for other views...as I often ponder this.



Hmm my views on cannabis.. ok

Its a sacred herb used for thousands of years by mystics and adepts all over the world. It is a feminine plant.

It's used in various traditions as a sacrament and in spells,etc,etc..

As for it being bad for the body because it contains toxins you are probably referring to stuff like skunk like PeacefulChange mentioned. Stay away from skunk.

Compared to cigarettes Natural Weed is harmless.

It opens the door to the soul. It is a plant and put here on this our earth for our use. Just like the many other shamanic plants that exist. It increases your psychic abilities and much more..

It does not have any negative effect on the energy body or physical body. Check out Marijuana Myths on google...

I would sum it up to say that it depends on how you use it. You have to have a mental mastery to be able to get the most from weed. This comes with experience of flexing your mental and psychic muscles for a while.

That's about all i'll go into this.

Enjoy.


Thanks for taking the time to go into that d_redant.

Not to hijack the thread, but nothing wrong with a course change.

Somewhere I remember a while back you said something about alchohol being some sort of doorway to the Higher Self....or something along that nature. Apologies in advance if I butchered that up.

Same question with relation to alchohol....ok in balance? Or pure drain on the energetic body? I've been pondering this lately as I'm in the process of ridding my body of toxins (or at least the 'big' ones)

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BARASHIN



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 4:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just noticed this was a new thread...
Will add my two sense on Cannibas.

I agree...I've always held the belief that cannibas is indeed a sacred plant because it is indeed natural. I think it can quickly lead to over indulgence, which of course would have a detrimental effect on almost all aspects of one's life.

However, at the end of the day I think it is indeed a divine connection between those sharing in the experience - again - if intent is focused on love/sharing.

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 11:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Proteus this topic was started to discuss Cannabis. Please stay on topic.

I will answer you this once here.

Keep separate topics for separate posts please.

Yes alcohol can also be used as some sort of doorway. But generally not everyone can do it properly. I'm not interested in getting more into that one though. Not right now..


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 11:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is why I said one must have a mental mastery to properly use the herb. It does amplify whatever intention or emotion you are carrying currently..but then again all natural weed does is calm and put you in deep meditation and connects you to divine things... The more chemically ridden strains in the Western side of the world is what blows peoples brains..

Stop focussing on the detrimental effects it can have on one's life.. Focus on the good positive and that is the experience you will have.. I am sure you know this already....



Proteus wrote:
Just noticed this was a new thread...
Will add my two sense on Cannibas.

I agree...I've always held the belief that cannibas is indeed a sacred plant because it is indeed natural. I think it can quickly lead to over indulgence, which of course would have a detrimental effect on almost all aspects of one's life.

However, at the end of the day I think it is indeed a divine connection between those sharing in the experience - again - if intent is focused on love/sharing.

cheers
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 10:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As far as helping with psychic abilities/practice I've found that if I use it I am able to attain deeper states of trance, sometimes unintentionally like during my sleep cycle.

About the alcohol. I think I'm going to have to agree with the whole bit about it being a gateway to the Higher Self. One time I was a bit shnackered after drinking some Vodka when suddenly I felt overwhelmed with sensations of ecstasy (orgasmic but in a nonsexual way). It was impossible not to double over due to that feeling and it didn't help (or maybe it did Wink ) that music was playing. I could feel the music (a bit hard to explain) and it just amplified that feeling. This could just be unrelated but I thought I should share that experience.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 8:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

terrelljacobson wrote:
As far as helping with psychic abilities/practice I've found that if I use it I am able to attain deeper states of trance, sometimes unintentionally like during my sleep cycle.

About the alcohol. I think I'm going to have to agree with the whole bit about it being a gateway to the Higher Self. One time I was a bit shnackered after drinking some Vodka when suddenly I felt overwhelmed with sensations of ecstasy (orgasmic but in a nonsexual way). It was impossible not to double over due to that feeling and it didn't help (or maybe it did Wink ) that music was playing. I could feel the music (a bit hard to explain) and it just amplified that feeling. This could just be unrelated but I thought I should share that experience.


Thanks for sharing...Nothing wrong with open communication. Not hard to understand at all. Music / Sensations are indeed amplified.

cheers
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 12:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ive been working with weed as a intention expander.... it does connect you to the spirit world no doubt, if that is a part of your everyday intentions.... I smoke a blunt to the head im usually conversating in my head with a spirit being.. smoking one with somebody though means focus on you and get into a calm aware focus.... and it will prove better then alcohol. Just dont let your intentions mix up while smoking... weed can b far from harmless!
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

On cannabis, it can also help prevent Alzheimer and some other types of organic brain disorders. Seems that it inhibits slow inflammatory processes, like Alzheimer's and glaucoma.
Which is good to know Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu May 05, 2011 10:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A thoughtful insight on cannabis indeed, but really it is a drug which in many a nation is classed as an Illegal drug and a 'Gateway' drug to the harder stuff like Cocaine and herion.
I, personally speaking will not rely on this because I have seen some people actually ruin thier minds with cannabis, but each to their own. If I were going to do some magickal working, I would like to use my mind without the effect of any form of plant extract or chemical such as alchohol. Cool It works for me. Cool
The notion that Cannabis can prevent alzheimers is something worth researching, thanks Redant. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue May 10, 2011 10:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're brainwashed just like everyone else in the masses.

It's no gateway drug..That is a false fact promoted by the establishment (which you obviously bow down to)

It is a plant classed as a drug because of the governments could not control the hemp trade in history.

It is used by many shamans and mystics (sages in the himalayas,etc). It's also very powerful if you know how to use it.

Really it is a herb put on earth for our use..just like many other shamanic plants.

You have to be strong spiritually to really be able to use cannabis spiritually..

Dropping words like Cocaine and heroin to associate cannabis to negativity won't really matter here because there is no comparison to cannabis and these other dangerous drugs..

If you knew anything about the divine feminine then you would also know this plant is associated to the feminine energies..which is good for intuition,etc,etc..

Also your comment about those who loose their minds they are not suppose to be doing cannabis in the first place..That is what happens when you take a very powerful spiritual plant that is supposed to be used in spiritual atmosphere/environment and put it in the hands of people who gozzle alcohol and those who already have underlying mental illness and also used when a person is in a negative environment with negative energies.. In the UK the strains of cannabis (called SKUNK) are the dangerous forms of it because there are so many chemicals in there..

You know nothing about natural cannabis which has zero negative effects.

There is also no scientific facts to back up what you are saying that natural cannabis causes people to loose their minds or is a gateway drug.

Simply put you do not know what you are talking about..

Maybe you are also blind to the fact that cannabis is actually becoming more legal in the world..Places like California and alot of other US states are opening up their laws and it will soon hit Europe I predict by this year or next year..

Of course whatever tickles your fancy is good for you..but you're very ignorant about alot of stuff.. Enjoy and hopefully your awareness is now expanded.

Indira wrote:
A thoughtful insight on cannabis indeed, but really it is a drug which in many a nation is classed as an Illegal drug and a 'Gateway' drug to the harder stuff like Cocaine and herion.
I, personally speaking will not rely on this because I have seen some people actually ruin thier minds with cannabis, but each to their own. If I were going to do some magickal working, I would like to use my mind without the effect of any form of plant extract or chemical such as alchohol. Cool It works for me. Cool
The notion that Cannabis can prevent alzheimers is something worth researching, thanks Redant. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue May 10, 2011 11:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have worked with many individuals addicted to hard drugs which can in no way whatsoever be compared to cannabis. Cannabis as a gateway to cocain etc, is a lie perpetrated by the controlers.

Cannabis is indeed a natural God given plant and I have seen it work miracles in people lives who are experiencing severe pain, as d_redant has said.

Yes there are abusers, but people can abuse anything. Aside from that I have seen cannabis calm highly aggitated and irritated individuals where dangerous psychotrophic drugs only made situations worse. It is medically approved in California with a prescription. It is sad that government controlers are able to keep it from the people.

The one negative is cannabis instilled with chemicals. This causes holes and sharp spikes in the aura and physical challenges.

Natural and organic, as was intended by spirit is highly beneficial to the human organism.
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PostPosted: Sun May 15, 2011 5:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi All,

As someone experienced with cannabis I can say that it is indeed a spiritual plant, it opens the mind and increases creativity, I believe it encourages more and stronger synapitic connections within the brain and opens mental doors, mostly in positive ways if used in moderation.

As to the evil SKUNK, what people have said on this thread is totally incorrect and the perpetuation of a myth propgated by the media and law enforcement agencies. Skunk is a strain of cannabis, like Kush, Northern Lights or any other, it has been bred for potency, aroma and appearance that appeal to the consumer, who are not usually not seeling any spiritual dimention to their 'stone'. Skunk does not have any more harmful or dangerious chemicles than any other strain of cannabis, it does have high THC content but all this means is that it takes less to achieve the desired effect.

The dangeriuos chemicle issue is purly to do with the way it is grown, not just Skunk but any strain of cannabis can contain dangerious chemicles like ferilisers, hormones and pesticides due to the way they are grown, usually criminal groups or uneducated growers use hormones and pesticides almost always in hydroponics during the growth cycle to increase yields and reduce the time it takes to complete the growth cycle.

Responsible growers always use organic fertilisers and pesticides, and will not use hormones and growth promotiants any closer that around 6 weeks to harvest, they will also ensure a 1 to 2 week period just before harvest to run only water through their systen so that the plant will metabolise all of the remaining fertiliseres before harvest and then allow 2 to 4 weeks to cure the cannabis, this process allows any residual chemicles to be further metabolised, prior to consumption.

The best way to ensure safety for spiritual use, and any other use for that matter, is to grow your own although this is not an option for many people. If you think the cannabis you bought might be contaminated with chemicles you can do a water cure for 24 hours, soak the buds 1n room temperature water for 24 hours in the dark, the water will leech out any water soluable chemicles but the THC and other cannabinoids will remain as they are only soluable in oil or solvents like alcohol.

Kind Regards
Markotb
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PostPosted: Sun May 15, 2011 6:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for sharing Lenred & Markotb.

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The dangeriuos chemicle issue is purly to do with the way it is grown, not just Skunk but any strain of cannabis can contain dangerious chemicles like ferilisers, hormones and pesticides due to the way they are grown, usually criminal groups or uneducated growers use hormones and pesticides almost always in hydroponics during the growth cycle to increase yields and reduce the time it takes to complete the growth cycle.


The Skunk in the UK are run and cultivated by exactly these types of people in exactly the same way you describe..hence not good at all for consumption here in the UK..Maybe where you are from it's different.
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