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astrodusted · Joined: 18 Apr 2005 Posts: 22

I would like it if somebody could explain exactly how you would go about getting a "rate". Do i need a radionic device to do this, like one of the devices sold with dials? what is the exact name of the device? (example: a "rate" machine, or an "analyzer".) Or can i get a rate another way? how do you get the rate of a person?
thank you, I need the help, its not like i can walk into a college and take a radionics course!
kk

d_redant · Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 8:22 pm Post subject:

The best thing that will give you a solid start in radionics rates and everything involved like psionics,psychotronics,psychic defence, psychic warfare, remote influence, etc.. is Uncle Chuckie.

http://psionics.mysticalwonders.org

Uncle Chuckie · Joined: 20 May 2005 Posts: 19 Location: Wisconsin

The rate is the setting on a dial on a standard radionic box or a series of numbers in a numerical readout on a digital system. What it is, in essence, is a way of concretizing the relationship between the consciousness of the operator and the subject of the operation.

Taking a rate means setting those numbers and that is done in a number of ways. Usually some form of dowsing method, either the stick pad or a pendulum, is used with the standard box format while each dial is turned until a response comes from the dowsing tool. In digital systems a sort of randomizer is used, something like an electronic I Ching.

RemoteControl · Joined: 09 Aug 2005 Posts: 157 Location: USA

In the manifest generator document it said the best way to manifest is to take the rate of "the cause of your desire NOT occuring" then subtract 10 from that rate. That rate would be "the cause of your desire occuring".

How would you do this?

Cousin Will · Joined: 10 Oct 2005 Posts: 3 Location: Chicago Illinois

I personally own all of Uncle Chuck's books, and if you want to know anything about psionics,his books are the best in explaining in detail,how to use radionics.A link to his books is in the above post by red_ant,and are well worth the money they cost.
I found personally,as most do when they start, that taking a rate, takes practice and with that practice comes the "feel" for
the rate.Many people I have talked to have said that a pendulum is easier
for them to use with the stick pad.
As for the manifest generator,I would be interested in hearing from anyone who has built that exact model, and followed those exact instructions.I'm certain it will work, but I am curious as to whether it is more accurate than any other radionic machine.
Another interesting thing I read in the manifest generator article, was that
the inventor seemed to set the machine to planetary hours and positions,
which is something I really have never done.I'm going to try that though, and see if it makes any difference in my transmissions.

RemoteControl · Joined: 09 Aug 2005 Posts: 157 Location: USA

Why do you even need a radionic box?

I can tune into a vibration just by thought or by circling one hand over my palm

What's the purpose of the radionic box?

Cousin Will · Joined: 10 Oct 2005 Posts: 3 Location: Chicago Illinois

A radionic box is not absolutly nesessary.It depends on the preferences of the operator.In fact,if you are good at visualization,your radionic box can be in your mind.Whatever feels comfortable and powerful to you, go with it.I just like the fun of having a actual prop to play around with.

Anonymous · Guest

A machine helps you concentrate too. I know people who say they prefer just to 'send reiki' or something, but I'm pretty sure they just do that to feel nice themselves and that they don't hold the intent in their mind for an extended period.

Also, what intent are they 'sending' or 'visualising'? How do they know what the other person needs? Radionics offers a super variable and highly 'fine-tuneable' method of connecting to another person.

Of course everyone knows that you don't actually need the box and the wires, but something external to your physical boundires really helps and stops you getting brain-burnout from holding too much in your head

Patrick

RemoteControl · Joined: 09 Aug 2005 Posts: 157 Location: USA

I agree machines help you, machines that have audio amplifiers in them, or that emit orgone, or patterns

But can anyone really answer my question of how you get a rate and them subtract 10 from the rate?

jnatural · Joined: 15 Oct 2005 Posts: 2

This is a topic I discuss in my Level 2 Radionics course. There are many ways to get a "rate" and no one way is "actual" as these rates are symbolic. They keep ones left brain busy whilst accessing the Right side where all healing has already occured. For further discussion read my friends book "Radionics Science or Magic" by David V. Tansley. Last time I looked it was out of print but you can do an abebooks search and get it from there for a reasonable price. This book was the first to question the value of rates and radionic devices, their use and purpose. It was David's attempt of giving radinoics a more secure paradigm from which to work. From looking around the net I can see that much of what he wrote about has been ignored. When he wrote it it upset the whole of the radionic field at the time which gave me a right old chuckle. Hope this helps.

RemoteControl · Joined: 09 Aug 2005 Posts: 157 Location: USA

Hey thanks I understand now...there really is no rate...all the tuning in devices are just attempts to give your intent a numerical form

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