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Orgone - non-toxic resin and efficiency

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Jourdelune



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 14, 2009 7:35 pm    Post subject: Orgone - non-toxic resin and efficiency Reply with quote

I am looking to do some Orgone work.

I read a lot about the epoxy resin and their mischief. The thing is not really "life friendly", the vapor can bring great damage to the living.

So I wonder if anyone had test some resin with no VOC (volatile organic compound) for their orgone project?

I would like to test, with some appliance the effectiveness of my orgone work. Any device that can be used to test the power of those? With that kind of device, I could test myself which resin is better....

For anyone, feel free to bring information about that toxicity of the Resin in regard with the efficiency of the orgone work.

Regards,
Jourdelune
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Polyester resin is used primarily in the creation of orgonite. This is quite toxic but harmless when cured, just dont fall into the old trap of placing only metal shavings inside it. It needs 50% metal and 50% organic not counting the resin. You could try making orgonite inside clay or plaster of paris to start or even just filling up a glass bottle with layers of organic and non organic material. Remember to place some quartz somewhere within the matrix to modulate the energy, this will prevent deadly orgone build up.
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PeacefulChange



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PostPosted: Mon Sep 27, 2010 2:40 pm    Post subject: Re: Orgone - non-toxic resin and efficiency Reply with quote

Jourdelune wrote:
I am looking to do some Orgone work.

I read a lot about the epoxy resin and their mischief. The thing is not really "life friendly", the vapor can bring great damage to the living.

So I wonder if anyone had test some resin with no VOC (volatile organic compound) for their orgone project?

I would like to test, with some appliance the effectiveness of my orgone work. Any device that can be used to test the power of those? With that kind of device, I could test myself which resin is better....

For anyone, feel free to bring information about that toxicity of the Resin in regard with the efficiency of the orgone work.

Regards,
Jourdelune


I have been thinking about this lately myself. Both fiberglass and epoxy resins are pretty nasty. And when people start adding various minerals and metals and toss that into water or bury in the ground, it seems to be defeating the purpose of why you were doing such a thing in the first place. Is that not littering and polluting? I guess you could argue the positive outweighs the negative. But why argue? Why not use local, natural resources instead of toxic resins? Clays, waxes, plant resins/saps(Eucalyptus works nicely for small apps), adobe, mudbrick, rammed earth, cob, etc. And then there is things like mixing water + corn starch + vegetable oil and gently heating to a boil then removing. Bio-plastic. I am still working on recipes so I have nothing really to share on that yet.

I have started using a combination of bees was and candelilla wax. The candelilla adds a nice rigidity to it and becomes very hard. And if you add some kelp granules and dendritic salt it makes an ultra-smooth natural extremely strong/solid/hard matrix after drying. Going over it with a heat gun or allowing to sit on a aluminum sheet, shiny side up, in full mid-day sun for an hour or so will make it nice and glossy(say if you want to gift it to someone). It also seems to release any negative energies you may have dusted it with during creation. Dendritic salt is fine salt with a very large surface area. I have been trying out grinding up activated charcoal and blending that in also. Making diamonds! LOL Very Happy

Now, I understand using a biodegradable material instead of a long lasting epoxy or fiberglass resin means it will most likely be 'destroyed' easier, chewed up by an animal due to scent in plant oils used, or from rainfall, uv damage and anything else that could happen to it. But at least the material is safe(in my opinion) and you can always go back and collect old devices/accumulators/etc. to be reused, or dismantled and recycled. With wax casing, you can melt it down and get back what was put into it. In this way, one could 'gift' people a lovely orgone generating nicnac to decorate their homes, and if there was a wick they could burn it like a normal candle, except there is a surprise at the end. Smile I have not tried to burn the candelilla/bees wax mixture like a candle so I am not sure how well that would work. More to come later...
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PeacefulChange



Joined: 13 Jul 2010
Posts: 112

PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 6:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was looking into how to harvest Olive(Olea europaea) tree resin(as opposed to sap) and I came across this abstract in the Journal of Applied Polymer Science -- >
onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/app.32944/full


Use of solid residue from olive kernel pyrolysis for polymer matrix composite manufacturing: Physical and mechanical characterization

1. G. C. Papanicolaou1,*,
2. A. G. Xepapadaki1,
3. G. C. Angelakopoulos1,
4. A. Zabaniotou2,
5. O. Ioannidou2

Article first published online: 26 AUG 2010
Quote:
Abstract

This study is aiming at the production of carbon material from agricultural residues by pyrolysis and their further use for the production of green polymeric composites. The development of an agricultural-based polymer matrix compatible with olive pits and consequently a fully biodegradable composite system is the future and ultimate goal of the undertaken research. In this study, pyrolysis of olive kernels was conducted at 800°C for 1 h. Furthermore, elemental, proximate, and metal analyses were performed for to the raw material and the produced char. The analyses showed that the pyrolytic char from olive kernel is a carbon rich material with significant concentration in metals, which can be further studied as additive for the production of green materials. For that purpose, samples made out of epoxy matrix, reinforced with pyrolytic char from olive kernel at different concentrations, were manufactured and mechanically characterized at three point bending conditions. A maximum increase of 60% in bending modulus in comparison to the net matrix modulus was achieved. The new material developed in the present investigation is a green composite with an elastic modulus 60% higher than that of the pure matrix. Results were also compared with predictions derived by the application of a theoretical model previously developed by the first author for the evaluation of the elastic modulus in particulate composites taking into account not only the effect of filler-matrix adhesion but also the degree of dispersion of fillers into the matrix. It was found that predicted values as derived from the application of the model were in very good agreement with experimental findings. © 2010 Wiley Periodicals, Inc. J Appl Polym Sci, 2010


I thought this may be of interest also: http://books.google.com/books?id=cX6mR6UU7W4C&pg=PA15&lpg=PA15&dq=natural+polymer+%22shrink+rate%22&source=bl&ots=Dx9TLLIRWo&sig=W5G45nCZWMzePK2L5mhZ0S8cKOg&hl=en&ei=_H2jTObYK8KecZjd4ZcB&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CBUQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=natural%20polymer%20%22shrink%20rate%22&f=false

I also just read about using whey polyurethane resin, but still weeding through it.
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zetrone



Joined: 13 Jun 2010
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have made Holy Handgrandes out of beeswax with the addition of any and all metal particles I usually use.

The orgone generator of Beeswax does not readly melt. I guess if you left it in the sun it would.

Havibg beena Chemist I add ALL KINDS of elements to my orgone creations. Presently I have a HUNK of Lithium metal (under kerosene) which I want to experiment with. Lithium is unstable and reacts with water, nitogen and is not a candidate for easy incoorporation into a orgon device.

There is a eutectic mixture of 89% Lithium and the rest Gold that melts at a few degrees above Lithium metal itself. I have not been able to find much information on this Lithium/Gold eutectic. I hope that the instabablity of the pure Lithium metal will be gone with the eutectic.

If it works that way I will use this mixture in Holy Handgrandes and I want a RING to place in my element RINGS collection. LOL. Should be a real RARE one. Who do you know with Lithium Jewelry on their fingers? LOL.
AND THE LIGHTEST PIECE OF METAL ANYONE WILL EVER SEE.

David
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