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Zareidriel · Joined: 01 Nov 2005 Posts: 41

Heya...wondering if any of you know high level defensive techniques...'psychic vampires', servitors, astral entities...I am constantly under attack, and therefore, constantly require more sheilding...as I come up with a new defense, (such as my x+1/x shield I may share later) they find an attack around it...the free energies available here and in other places, as well as the help of 'friends' have helped me increase the potency of my sheilds, but the more I can get, the safer I'll feel. ^_^;

Thank you for your time...

lonewolf · Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 12:35 pm Post subject: advice

well there are a few techniques i have picked up. one of them is 'cloaking'. the basics of it is. Visulise psi flowing through you. try to feel it flow through you. Dont programe any constructs or your energy field to do this. just visulise it. You will be suprised how hard it is to pick someone up with this techniqe. altho practice dose make perfect, and if the attacker is a very skilled scanner. it will make it harder for them to atain you. But eventually they ill find you
The visulisation i use, is picture yourself as an outline and alow the psi to flow through ( like wind) and try and not have any parts alowing resistance.
Another one. altho imo very hard/dangerouse (becuase ive never tried) is you afectivly take out all the psi in your body and you field. this technique is called 'hiding'. This is very good if you wish to not be scanned. Even the advanced scanners (one friend 8years practice) could just find my friend, who thought up these wicked tech'. the only reason he found him was he left a little trace of his psi-sig around.. other than that, he couldnt be found.

There are also loads of web-pages that will help you on this topic.
http://www.psipog.net <---they go throu the basics of shielding and cloaking, altho there idea on cloaking is not the best.. reason being, they tell you to program your shield to tell the scanner that your no there. stupid thing is, the scnner will know your there, but just wont be able toknow who. but again its weakness is a good scanner.. i sugest to stick with method i talked about earlyer.
http://psionline.ho8.com/ <-- another good site. loads of information

i would share my energy, but i cant atm. due to some things going on with me.. but best of luck.

your friend
lonewolf

Red Raven · Joined: 16 Sep 2005 Posts: 175 Location: Australia

http:sphynxcatvp.nocturna.org/suppt/psionic.html

Zareidriel · Joined: 01 Nov 2005 Posts: 41

Raven, your site was very good with the basics and general aspects of grounding, shielding, and detection techniques...but it didn't quite have the strong/creative shields I was looking for.

Lonewolf, your cloaking technique is indeed effective...but before I implement it I may want to make a few changes...causing chi to flow through you equally does work, but a good scanner can find your individual chakras no problem...it might help to take some of the surrounding energies and smother them onto the stronger points of your being...I'll experiment with it...

The 'hiding' technique isn't bad either...but setting your energy outside yourself will cause fatigue and disorientation, generally not the thing you'd want to do either all the time or in the heat of battle. Area-effect spells and mildly intelligent servitors would still be able to damage you, I presume, as well, although to inexperienced to moderate seekers, you would be completely invisible...

I found psipog to have some interesting concepts to work off of...but the psionline had the same problem I had with the other site...a little too basic.

Thanks, both of you...if anyone else has anything more to offer, I would appreciate it...

Zygos · Joined: 16 Aug 2005 Posts: 207

Hmmm, I used multi-shielding personally, basically multiple shields of different lvls rotating constantly.

What elemental system is your shielding based on? You may find for example if you can create a shield that is the polar opposite of it, that between 2 shields for example of opposite spectrums that it may be a more able to take care of most oposition.

Also are you more interested in protection, or remaining hidden? I mean here is my sig I'm pretty well protected (though if you wish to attack me to find out; I will defend myself, with extreme prejudice), and I've cloaked people (though generally I mean that to be that they are cloaked in my energy) but again it comes down to you what is more important: people not being able to see you, or people being able to see you but not get in? Personally I use shields to keep people out, not to hide myself...but that's just me....it all comes down to purpose. And if you want to really hide yourself, just make your shielding so its skin tight......

Zygos

Red Raven · Joined: 16 Sep 2005 Posts: 175 Location: Australia

Can I ask why you are constantly under attack?

Zareidriel · Joined: 01 Nov 2005 Posts: 41

My main shields are all completely psi/chi based, but I have one layer of earth/fire/wind/water and one layer of north/south/east/west shielding each. What other elemental systems are there? I wouldn't be suprised if I'm missing some.

I'm mainly concerned with sheilding myself. Hiding is somthing I've just started to experiment with...but so far it hasn't helped at all...it is difficult to hide a presence and shields such as mine. As far as shields, go, I probably have one of the strongest matrices constructed on this forum, if not for a good area around where I live. (Ohio) And yes, when attacked, I can defend myself with extreme prejudice as well...by the time they work through the shields, if they're able to, I've usually charged a pretty strong series of attack spells.

Multi-shielding...lol, I wouldn't be in a very good state of being right now if I only used one. I don't want to discuss my exact shielding methods, my main ones anyway, right here...but be sure there are a great number...

Why I am under attack...lets just say, when you've 'lived' as long as I have, you develop a lot of enemies...a lot of friends too, but you just can't really live as your own entity without encountering those who wish to destroy you...it goes anywhere from beings on the Astral plane who got angry because I accidently bumped into them, to ancient orders of wizards I've offended in one way or another, to angels who deem my actions as interfering too much in the lives of certain people...the list goes on and on.

Zygos · Joined: 16 Aug 2005 Posts: 207

Hmmm, interesting arangement, you are however not protecting yourself from portals I see, thats why I always recommend having at least one skin layered shield. Nice backlash btw. Is it some sort of cold based weapon?

I noticed from your interesting shielding specturm that you appear to have some holes in the top of your shields, and a at least one below, are they there to pull the enemy and alert your alarms, or are they just punctures? I'm hoping they are the first and not the latter.

As for dealing with Angels, I generally recommend making a dagger (or spear) of solid dark core, and coating it with an element of light, the light will slip right through their shielding, and the dark with defintely make them want to back off. If you are dealing with what you most likely are I'd also recommend making a shield of gray versus one spectrum or the other. You can make gray energy by melding pure dark and light together with the intention of them melding instead of destroying one another. Gray will generally absorbe anything you throw at it. (though I am defintely a more defensive, and wait out the storm kinda of guy, than the attack with endless fury)

Finally there is a way of making your energy appear to be coming from a different area of the astral by hiding your energy, and creating a construct (or several) in areas far away from you, this will lead them in the wrong direction. As your sig was way too easy to find.

Good luck with your battles, and though I did touch your shielding, no harm meant Smile

Zygos

Zareidriel · Joined: 01 Nov 2005 Posts: 41

Yeah, I felt you pokin at me and I almost attempted to obliterate you before I came to my senses. I get a little jumpy. XD

The outer layer backlash is a cold-based projectile, but it mainly serves as a freezer rather than a weapon. Somthing to say to anything little that'd like to stab at my sheilds, 'Hey, step off.' If they're serious about it, they'll be cold for a few moments, letting me make preparations...

The main hole above/below serves as an 'eye of the hurricane', creating a couple rotating shields near my middle layers...a quickly rotating sheild serves well as a deflector. The eye is necessary to keep it well balanced...I have traps set at the eyes above and below so they don't serve as a significant weak point. The others in the top, and one more underneath, are lures...once someone tries to take advantage of any holes I have, thinking I was careless, that serves as an alarm itself. They quickly retract and form a solid barrier by themselves under any serious threat. Not sure what you mean by 'pull the enemy' but I think we generally have the same idea.

The dark core with light coating sounds like a good idea, I'll try that...and I have one dark and one light shield around each other near the inside...I can't get them to mix for long periods of time, so I just combine them into a gray shield under attack, but if you are using some kind of energy as an emulsifier and aren't realizing it that makes them meld together well, it'd be nice if you could figure that out. I'd like a permenant gray shield.

I've tried hiding my sig, no luck so far...I've tried siggers, clone servitors, cloakers...but I'll try your way and see if it works...

Thanks for the tips and the luck...more are always appreciated...

jemmi · Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 8:22 am Post subject: High level sheilding...

The tactic(s) should vary according to the attacker(s). Is there a particular group who attacks you moreso than the others? And do you have any remote sensors set up that can perhaps warn you in advance of an attack? There are alot of variables here...

Perhaps analyze your weak areas - through which they (the attackers) are penetrating you the most, and with what level entities you may be dealing. Develop the weaker areas (that are being penetrated) so those areas won't be so susceptible to attack. Get intelligence (reconaissance) on their attributes (the attacker(s) ), perhaps with a tracer or a scanner - then find their weaknesses and then nail 'em next time they show up.

Just a suggestion...

LnL - jemmi (Clan Shadowfaun)
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/gridworkers

Zareidriel · Joined: 01 Nov 2005 Posts: 41

None significantly more that I may want to alter my defenses...I generally employ a large myriad of shielding and tactics as to deter any foe that wishes to penetrate my defenses...the entities I deal with are very high level, no remote sensor I can construct could warn me in advance. Attacks are instantaneous.

I really don't think I have any weak areas...some entities are just better at breaking through certain layers than others. No one has broken my innermost Aura before, but I keep many layers of outer defenses...none of them particularly weak. As far as I know, I have every weaknesses I'm aware of built into the shielding as counters, such as the cold spell mentioned earlier...I can't attack them myself, or else risk slacking off on the shields...

Thanks for trying to help...but all that was generally common sense...

amethea · Joined: 01 Nov 2005 Posts: 34

I once accidently created a servitor/succubi from not having focused intent...it had the face of my innermost desire, yes a person. I saw it for it's true nature though, as it was climbing under my covers of my bed. Twice I commanded, "In the name of the Father, the son, and the holy spirit, I command you to be gone!" And it was so. It never bothered me again.

Raevyn_hart · Joined: 22 Aug 2005 Posts: 11 Location: Virginia

I know this thread is a bit old, but I haven't been on-site for a while. One thing I use that has not been mentioned yet.... in any multi-layer sheild I construct, I always set up a layer of void (vacuum) somewhere near the innermost layers. It works on the astral very much like a thermos does in the physical, by preventing the transferrence of energy in any form between the layers seperated by this void space. Hope this might help some.

Raevyn the Ancient

Zygos · Joined: 16 Aug 2005 Posts: 207

Zareidriel · Joined: 01 Nov 2005 Posts: 41

Not a bad idea...I have a layer of inexistence, but you are speaking of a layer of negative energy, correct? So that anything that approaches it is absorbed...not a bad idea...it'll take a lot of energy to make one that can void anything worthwile, but it's worth a shot...

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