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jenny3000 · Joined: 22 Apr 2012 Posts: 32

Hello everyone,

I wasnt sure about where to post this but i would like to know if anyone in here has some good links about DNA activation, and some recommendations of CDs of mp3 for me?

I just started to learn about it, i first was informed about biokinesis, and i tried to practice it. But i also heard many ppl who succeeded in their change using biokinesis but their change did not last permanently, and that the only way to change permanently is to do dna activation first.

For now i've been using shapeshifters mp3, its called "DNA Activation: LevelOne Series". I tried the first CD but i keep falling asleep, as there is no one talking, its just the music...Maybe i lack of practice, i will keep on trying harder.

So yea does anyone have tried this with success? or have some complementary infos about DNA activation or recommandations for me?

Thank you guys

PS : i know theres an old topic about DNA activation but its from 2005...most links are dead, but if the members are still on the forum, i would be happy to hear from them too =)

Sabrinmg · Joined: 29 Jan 2012 Posts: 192 Location: Over the rainbow

DNA Activation is often a term used for Kundalini Activation, or Spiritual Awakening.

The first thing I'll say to you about it is this; don't do it unless you're fully prepared to accept any and all consequences, including being strapped into a straight jacket and locked in a padded cell.

That might seem like an extreme example but it's been known to happen. Kundalini is often misdiagnosed, in the west, as schizophrenia.

Basically, Kundalini focuses on inner alchemy (a change in yourself), whereas schizophrenia focuses on external change (in the early stages of Kundalini, as the veil between dimensions lifts a little, it's common to "see" insects crawling on the ground before immediately disappearing. Try going to your GP to explain that!)

In other words, you need to be of sound mind if you're going to initiate Kundalini.

If you still want to, try Kelly Howell's Kundalini meditation.

Sabrinmg · Joined: 29 Jan 2012 Posts: 192 Location: Over the rainbow

Here's a nice article which you may find useful. The only potential problem that I can see is that it uses some specific names and terminology. This may lead somebody into confusion, but I'd suggest to ignore the names and things, focus more on understanding the bigger picture.

The Path of Initiation: The Fivefold Pattern of the Witching Way
Copyright © 2005 by Robin Artisson
From “The Witching Way of the Hollow Hill”
Most people have the understanding that to claim to belong to a traditional witch
“group”, one must go through a period of learning, join a group, be vouched for, and be
initiated. This is how many modern groups do work.
I think this is a very problematic formula, however, because most people fail to see
beyond it. They seek out groups or join them for the sake of membership- but groups
don’t make witches or mystics; Fate makes witches and mystics.
This standard formula of “joining the group” fails to take into account that the true
purpose of "Traditional Groups" is not to build membership and share rituals. The
purpose of a serious spiritual grouping is to achieve Wisdom and Illumination. No wise,
thinking person would ever make the claim that Illumination and Wisdom ONLY come
from membership in a special group.
In truth, Illumination and Wisdom come from the Soul of the World itself, from the
Unseen worlds, from Spiritual Beings, from other mysterious forces, and from within.
What "groups" do, is merely speak a symbolic language, hoping to channel these very
things. "Groups" do not and cannot originate these things, nor make them happen in their
members with any certainty. Groups may serve some useful purposes, but without
members coming to them already aware of the deeper origin of Wisdom, they are
doomed to fail as groups, for the same reason exoteric churches all gradually fail.
There is a period of learning involved in becoming a Traditional Witch or Mystery
Initiate. There are vouches, initiations. But they do not come only from groups. To
understand how we all partake of these things, we have to understand the deeper pattern.
The Period of learning can occur totally between a person and the Land itself; the group
you join are the Pale People, or Hidden People, the dwellers in the Underworld; you are
vouched for by your own devotion to the Unseen and by your own heart’s weight, and the
heart of authentic initiation occurs totally within the Underworld, which is
simultaneously inside the individual.
Some organizations try to take control of this process, act as "guardians" of it, teachers of
it, but I believe that this is haphazard at best; it leads often to a certain abuse of power
and a harmful egocentrism that does more harm than good. No group is supposed to be
about its members, titles, leaders, or their activities, but about the Greater Fate of
Illumination. All members of a true grouping of the Old Rite will seek to cast away
identity and worldly titles and powers to the great Darkness of Wisdom below, and all are
submerged in the singular desire for the dark and light Illumination of the Mysteries, and
for kinship with the potencies in the Land.
The true “group” is a group of people who know a certain humbleness, and who seek a
common spring of eternity, driven by a common thirst- a thirst for the Other and for
Illumination, not thirst for temporal powers and offices that are far less. They protect the
Land and the true keys to Wisdom because they have given up all for them, and received
all back in return, not because they jealously desire to secret up power in some vault.
They know the disastrous consequences of egocentrism- they know how the egocentered,
power hungry human destroys the Land and abuses power and other people;
this is why the path is kept shaded with secrecy, and for no other reason. When those of
pure heart, ready to cast away all for the wisdom born of the Underworld and ready to
sacrifice for Love of the Land show themselves, they are taken into the group and
introduced to its mysteries. There is no other qualification. It is a strange love, a strange
desire that the Old Ones use to lure people to the ways of the Hidden Craft. Human
witches cannot and should not stand in the way of this, for in so doing, they fail in their
true role as guardians.
The "outward" initiations that people in groups perform are supposed to be mere
representations of a great and timeless pattern of Transformation, great and timeless
realities that no human being or group can claim a monopoly on, as they underlie all
works of art, culture, and inspiration.
The Path of Initiation, in Traditional Folklore, as well as (more generally) in the Western
Mystery Tradition, has several stages, that manifest in outward events, but are primarily
Innerworld realities:
1. The "reaching out" to the powers of the unseen world; the "petition" at the Hollow Hill
or the Faery Mound, a stage by which the limitations of the human being are defined
through perception and understanding, and the "leap of faith" or the "longing for the
beyond" is felt and expressed, from human to what is beyond human; this is the “earth”
or Land experience.
2. The 'year and a day' period (or a set period of a fixed time) of internal growth, or the
"spiritual hermitage", or the trial-time; also, at times, instruction by Otherworldly beings
or their representatives; This is the station of the circling airs, that communicate
knowledge.
3. The descent into the Cavern of the Black Water and the Two Torches, or the Initiatory
Chamber below, (The chamber or cavern of Enody or Zerinthia) to the source, or to the
presence of the Initiatrix in the Innerworld/Underworld, the Pale Woman under the Hill,
Queen in the Meadows of Elfhame, who brings about (a normally traumatic) ego death in
the candidate, and bestows the Innerworld birth, purification, and regeneration, (which at
this stage is largely unconscious in immediate depth and effect, but which is necessary to
further transformations, and which grows on its own into new, long term understandings).
This represents the first "intrusion" or "appearance" of the outside forces that were called
to the initiate in stage one. Their very appearance turns all things "upside down", and
destroys and transforms all things. Nothing can ever be the same again after this initial
contact with trans-personal forces. This is the Underworld Initiation in which old patterns
of thinking and living are destroyed and newer, better patterns are regenerated and the
personality of the initiate is altered forever, and made better, wiser, capable of
experiencing life in a new way. This is the descent into the dark waters below.
4. The meeting of the Devil or the Otherworldly Guardian and the Trial, followed by the
bestowal of a first stage Transformation. This stage is the fetch-awakening, at the
threshold of the soul, wherein the Puckril, the Familiar or 'Fetch Beast', is identified or
bestowed. This is the merging of the human nature and the animal nature; this is also a
further "arrival" of outside forces that were called by the soul of the initiate. This is the
kindling of the Cunning Fire.
5. The meeting with the Fetch Mate, or Otherworldly Lover- the Congress of the
Incubi/Succubi, the Faery Marriage between the mortal and the immortal, this world and
the next, soul and spirit, or the "Wedding Chamber" sacrament of the Gnostics; This is
the final culmination of the divine chain of events set into motion by the call of the
initiate, the merging and union of the balanced human nature (a balance achieved by the
merging with the Puckril) and the divine nature. This is the “invisible mystery” or the
spirit-essence of all.
It is strange but true that even though the initiate "travels" or journeys to the locations
where these forces interact with him or her, their original call set into motion a chain of
events that led seemingly inescapably to those beings or forces- and thus, what looks
like personal quest is anything but- it is not even a summoning; it is actually those forces
coming TO the initiate.
Only the ego of the outsider or the half- wise views it as effort on the part of the initiate to
"reach" them- in reality, whe n the initiate travels to reality, reality is traveling to the
initiate.
The Great Forces answer. The purpose of the "time of learning" is to show the initiate
how to be aware of their answer- this is why trance techniques and other consciousnessalteration
methods are taught at this time. After that point, everything that happens to the
initiate is in reality an answer from the Otherworld, and this is what the initiate comes to
understand, eventually.
After these five stages are achieved, The Witch or Initiate's "Fate" is transformed; altered
into a new path of internal growth that causes a unknowable route into a new condition,
beyond this life (and beyond the death of the candidate).
The route of this new condition is the Third Road to Elfland, the destination is Mastery,
the Faery/Fetch Metamorphosis or the Deathless Transformation into the ranks of the
Hidden Company, or the Grand Array.
During the remains of an initiate's life, the affects of these five experiences, and the
further attendant transformations, cause Wisdom to blossom in the soul of the candidate
(as the soul is now united with the Spirit) and it causes the special modes of perception
and understanding to open in the candidate (gradually) that are the source of many
mythical seership abilities and the like.
"Magical" abilities (and I hate to use that term) are also sometimes gained, though this is
a far more poetic idea than the term "magic" expresses. Knowledge and real Wisdom,
direct experience of the Unseen world, and the ability to "reach into" the self, or the
depths, to directly experience and mediate extra-sensory reality, causes what seem to be
like "powers" or abilities to understand and influence some events in life.
But this is only a tiny matter of a greater growth.
The five-fold initiatory pattern leads to internal transformation, a "road change" from the
straight road of the common person, moving slowly through Fated time, onto the
Crooked Path, or the Third Hidden Road, which is the attainment of a "Second Destiny"
of types. It's very subtle, and does not happen overnight.
This pattern is embedded in the workings of the cosmos itself; we can see it in ourselves
and in Nature- the acorn, pulled by the draw of Fate and Nature away from the origin tree
falls into the underworld, where after a time, and when outer forces reach it- (light, and
water from above) it sprouts and grows into a new being- the fertilization in the seed
occurring within, but spurred on by outside forces.
In reality, even the "outside" forces are part of a whole reality, of which the seed may
ignorantly think of itself as "apart" from- but the truth is found in Holism. Did the acorn
go the ground, or did the ground go to the acorn? Both occurred. There is only one
reality, one system, one chain of Fate. Did the sunlight and water reach the acorn, or did
it reach them? Both occurred. Do not let false divisions impede your ability to see the
truth of Holism.
One might wisely then ask- "did the whole chain begin when an initiate decided to make
the original petition to the forces beyond him or herself, or did that decision and petition
come from another place make the initiate?
When you can answer that question, then you will see how Fate calls all things to
initiation and transformation, eventually, and without exception.
This entire pattern can be realized through working groups that have the means and
understanding to REALLY bring about these five transformations, but at heart, all of
these transformations (and whatever symbols people use to represent them in the outer
world) are not physical, blunt realities; they are internal, otherworldly mysteries that
emerge through all things.
They come from the Unseen. A group is very unique and special indeed if it can really
bring about these transformations in a systematic, direct way- most groups cannot,
because 99% of people have not gone past the first one or two "steps" on the initiatory
path. Most people who call themselves occultists have not even gone past the first.
Luckily, a person can walk this entire path alone. In fact, even before you realize it, you
are on this path, whether you belong to a group or to no group.
Groups that tell you otherwise are just trying to get your obedience or money, or both.
I'm not saying that a good group of humble, like- minded people, poets and mystics,
shouldn't be worked with if you find them; but good luck finding them. The wise would
do well to look to themselves, within and beyond, for the emergence of this pattern.
The simple act of looking shows that it is occurring.

jenny3000 · Joined: 22 Apr 2012 Posts: 32

Thank you very much Sabrinmg for all your answers...but i have to say that it confused me a little bit. See my english is not so great so i didnt understand everything in the article.

So basically DNA activation wasnt what i thought it was.. It's more like a long path to wisdom not just a way to modify a part of your DNA permanently? please correct me if i'm wrong, i'd like to know if i understood well.

I found other interesting website about DNA activation. I'll post the link down below for those who were also curious and looking for answers. =)

http://www.transperception.com/dna-theta-healing.htm

Sabrinmg · Joined: 29 Jan 2012 Posts: 192 Location: Over the rainbow

When someone says "DNA Activation" on it's own, generally what is being referred to is Kundalini Activation. However, it seems obvious to me now that it is I who misinterpreted your meaning. I apologize;

For what you want to accomplish, you can use several methods. You already mentioned Biokinesis and theta healing. Both of those are good and there's at least one other method that I know of.

There is a special form of Reiki called DNA Reiki. However, it's used more for healing damaged DNA rather than altering it to specifications. If I were you, I'd use biokinesis for that. Sorcerer put up a nice message on changing your eye color, which received a lot of attention and you might like to read it.

If you'd like to receive DNA Reiki, you can get attuned or PM me about it.

Take care Smile

jenny3000 · Joined: 22 Apr 2012 Posts: 32

Thank you so much for all the clarifications =)

I have tried Sorcerer's method, but i couldn't make it work for me...maybe i lack in knowledge, so i will try to learn more and try harder

I will do some researches about DNA reiki. I will get back to you if i need more infos, you seem to know a lot; Thank you for offering your help =)

Sabrinmg · Joined: 29 Jan 2012 Posts: 192 Location: Over the rainbow

You're welcome Smile

Thankyou for your nice words.

One of the things I do to acquire knowledge is syntopic reading, an offshoot of photoreading. Quite often, I won't know something until asked a question about a certain thing. In photoreading terminology, this is called "activation". I rely on others to activate what I've photoread Smile

Anyway, it's not a question of trying harder, just have patience with yourself and feel free to adjust any technique until you get the results you want.

Take care x

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