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Is it a dream or psychic/astral attack

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2014 12:53 am    Post subject: Is it a dream or psychic/astral attack Reply with quote

Just a lilttle background, i have been meditating and stuff forbthe past 5 years but have only just recently got into ceremonial magick via the lbrp and the middle pillar even more recently. Can't remember everything but here is what happened

Late night sleep with no rituals performed just element earth homework. Started seeing various things in the room, I guess this was when I fell asleep. Had various dreams with some of them being lucid.

One dream was me in my room seeing various wierd things in my room which if I were awake would think of as astral debris or the 'little nasties' Donald Michael Kraig refers to. So i kinda became lucid, thinking I may be dreaming as I should not be that advanced yet.

I try to do a reality test but the reliable one I could think of is reading something for a while. The dark room in the dream unfortunately didn't allow this but I was still sure  I wasn't awake.

So I attempted to use this to project out of my body by simply floating out of my body or thinking of a place in astral but besides a bit a movement up and down didn't happen.

I felt like something was holding me down from behind. Sounded like a young woman.  Couldn't escape her clutches. It then pressed a finger right on  the bridge of my nose creepily hard. So hard I eventually woke up feeling a little wierd like that shit was real.

So this is the second time I have had this sort of dream or whatever in a week but the first one was less physical with something different
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 19, 2015 10:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's difficult to answer but I've had similar experiences coming out of delta, theta, sleep so to say...

Can I ask do you harbor a common fear of psychic harm or attacks? This could in part explain why your mind starts making it real for you and in these dreams too...

Curious indeed... I once had a sleep paralysis where an old hag sat on my chest and prevented me from waking up, she said all kinds of nasty things to me like I'm going to live short, die faster etc... but still it is not the exact same phenomenon I believe.

My guess... and heed this as guess rather than actual advice but you're not under any psychic´/psionic threat at this point. It's just your mind playing with you. And it could even be if you use too much caffeine that is causing it, not to mention cigarettes, those toxins. I hope you resolve this... I know from experience it can be frightening as hell.

Also.... if you fear psychic attack... if you can concentrate, stand with your feet shoulder apart... breathe in a few times and relax. Start imagining a purple giant scythe given to you by death itself, that glows purple with energy... even without knowing who is attacking you, you violently chop their head off with the scythe guided by death etc... This has helped me before.... But I think you have a neurological issue rather than actual psychic situtation. Be well.

- haywired
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PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2015 7:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most of people claim to have had something like an out-of-body experience— a sensation of the consciousness, spirit, or "astral body" leaving the physical body. While most experiences occur during sleep or under hypnosis, some people claim to do it while merely relaxing.
But according to survey Astral is one of two planes on the fifth dimension, it is where dreams occur, where mystical teachings are given. You can meet spiritual beings in the Astral, discover secret knowledge, learn about yourself, learn hidden wisdom about death & the process of awakening. Discover the purpose of life, what happens with death, and much more.
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