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Harry Sra · Joined: 05 Jan 2011 Posts: 4 Location: Tonga Islands

Hi experts,

Its been about an year or so since I have totally separated myself from psychic stuff ( for some reasons).. I had been astral projecting, lucid dreaming, could bring brainwave down to almost 4-5 cps etc etc... In short, I am not a NOOB yet I am not an expert in my own view at least.. I don't want Noobish suggestions here, only expert opinions.. My questions are simple.. Its about books--
I am planning to read a lot of books in the coming days ( months) but its happened a lot of times that I have picked a book that seemed pretty good on the outside but upon reading it I felt cheated... I want some advanced books-- here are the topics-- ( No audio-book Please)

1. 5 must have(read) LOA books. ( Not the kind of 'THE SECRET' please, childish stuff)..

2. 5 must have books relating to harnessing your mind power ( releasing creativity, brainwave etc)

3. 5 must have books on Self-hypnosis.

4 3 must have books relating to NLP. ( maybe 5)

5. 5 must have Occult books ( personally I prefer only systematic study over such voodoo and ritual stuff but still If you think there are some powerful books out there, do mention)

6. 5 must have self-help books ( jack Canfield types)

7. 10 slots are free for any other book that may fall in PSYCHIC category. ( gems, psionics , psychotronics, radionics etc etc.. anything )

your opinions will be appreciated and thanks in advance. I am eagerly waiting for the replies...

Harry Sra · Joined: 05 Jan 2011 Posts: 4 Location: Tonga Islands

+ 5 books relating to meditation.

infobot · Joined: 14 Sep 2005 Posts: 95

hey what types of methods do you use for lucid dreaming and astral projecting?

Since you are not a noob at it go ahead and recommend the top 5 astral projecting and lucid dreaming books..

That should get the ball rolling and encourage others to share their experiences.

SOL12 · Joined: 28 Jan 2011 Posts: 199 Location: Erie

Okay, seeing as you said noob I'm going to assume you MUST know it all and presumably need nobody's help so I can't figure why you'd ask. Spiritual paths aren't an MMORPG and you should not think you're any better than any beginner on here as you are not, especially not with that attitude. As well reading the work of others does not, in any way, qualify one to be an "expert". Such practices require above all else work and more work. It's about practice, not theory, and one that relies on them too extensivly is doomed to stagnation. In summation, kindly, get off your ass, do it yourself and show more respect.

d_redant · Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 9:24 pm Post subject:

Well said and very true!

SOL12 · Joined: 28 Jan 2011 Posts: 199 Location: Erie

Much thanks. I've found it is all to common for practitioners to rely too heavily on being provided answers outwardly. While this is natural and we all need help, the fact still remains that the most important lessons can only be learned and not tought.

Harry Sra · Joined: 05 Jan 2011 Posts: 4 Location: Tonga Islands

@Sol12 - well said. At first I thought It would be better to ignore a person like you who takes the word 'NOOB ' as an insult ( which is unjustified until you really

understand what NOOB was meant to mean and why I was against any 'NOOB' giving me advice on this) and thinks that calling someone a noob means the same as stating that

" I am the expert here". If i call a beggar a beggar I am no richer than wouldcalling a millionaire a millionaire makes me poorer. Ego is always comparing ... it

cannot think eithout laying emphasis upon the polarities. Mere mention of a polarity triggers its comparitive tendency. What were just casual words from ( I am to

blame here, I could have used a more respecting word like 'begginer' but people like you would have pecked mistakes out of that also) me and pretty necessary to ward

off people whog give such advices that you feel cheated after heeding to them were taken to be meaning too much and too different from what they really were. I pity

your logic that interprets words in such a way and also your control over you nerves 'MR. ROBIN HOOD'.

"Spiritual paths aren't an MMORPG " - Indeed. I never thought that way . its your interpretation that I may have thought that way.

"you should not think you're any better than any beginner on here as you are not, especially not with that attitude" Begginers are always begginers . Thats a fact. And

their is nothing insultful in that. Twisting facts to suit theories is a basic flaw you are commiting hear. Be a little introspective MR. SOL. "ATTITUDE" - That is

again your interpretation ( unfortunately a wrong one).

"reading the work of others does not, in any way, qualify one to be an "expert"" - I never said I was an expert and never said reading would make me so. I cant

understand how you brought this up. My opinion here is that gaining knowledge is as much necessary as applying it. both are crucial parts. you can apply only what you

have idea about and of course application helps in a better understanding and refinement of your skills.

"one that relies on them too extensivly is doomed to stagnation." - totally agreeable statement.

"In summation, kindly, get off your ass, do it yourself and show more respect." the very premises were wrong hence I did not expect a summation worth agreeing with.

One thing more, whatever I asked is no way near spiritual path. Do not live in an illusion . When you are on spiritual path many things come up which try luring you

out of the path 'Occultism' is one such thing. we are discussing occult here not spirituality. spirituality is the freedom from everything ( occult included). You

almost made me laugh when you mentioned spiritual path.

In summation, Stop twisting reality to suit your theories and start synchronizing your theories to reality.
Hope you understand. Hope your logic works the right way this time. Hope you have control over your nerves this time. hope you have some air passing through your mind this time.
before shining your twisted mirrors at others, go see a plain one for yourself.

SOL12 · Joined: 28 Jan 2011 Posts: 199 Location: Erie

Actually spiritualism encompasses all these things. As well, advice can be givin by anyone regardless of how experianced. Saying only expert help wanted casts a feeling of exclussion which should not be accepted. I know you may not have realized or intended for it to come off like this but it came off disrespectful and self-inflating.

SOL12 · Joined: 28 Jan 2011 Posts: 199 Location: Erie

I dont wish to argue on the matter, only to show you how you came across and to offer that instead of reading the practices of other that you yourself should find your way and do it.

Harry Sra · Joined: 05 Jan 2011 Posts: 4 Location: Tonga Islands

@sol 12- you're quite right here. Advice can be given by anybody. Just in the process of making my own work easy I came off as dis-respective. My attempt by writing 'noob' instead of begginer was just to pose as a little strict so as to ward off people who have the tendency to poke their noses everywhere , giving other advises which they themselves have not applied yet ( and probably never may). I've just had had some bad experiences with inexperienced people posing as experienced. Beginner, I thought would be too easy a word for them to trespass. So used the harsher 'noob' as a warning.
Lets bury whatever mistakes happened. Just learn from it and move on. i also don't wish to make this forum a battleground.

SOL12 · Joined: 28 Jan 2011 Posts: 199 Location: Erie

It won't be. I too am not fond of those who pose as experts so I see your point, I only meant to prevent exclusion and its settled. I suppose though, to the end of creating a recommendation, we should start with what works and practices you've studied already.

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