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Isn't pyrokinesis harmful?



 
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divine_source



Joined: 25 Feb 2008
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2008 8:03 pm    Post subject: Isn't pyrokinesis harmful? Reply with quote

I was wondering if Pyrokinesis involves transmitting and receiving energy then it may disturb the cells and cause mutation, leading to cancer....

Please clarify.......
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dei



Joined: 01 Jul 2008
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 8:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only ways pyrokinesis can be harmful are like so...

    Use of too much energy, resulting in rapid cooldown of body, possibly freezing to death...
    Rapid increase of glucose in the blood, resulting in blood sugar related death...
    Setting something on fire and burning yourself to death..
    Getting caught doing it by fanatical zealots and evangelicals, and getting burned at the stake...
    Scaring the s*** out of someone with a gun, and getting shot...


You get the idea.

The only metaphysical powers I know that can cause cancer are the Evil Eye and a specific hex. Though there may be a different kinesis out there, one that involves radiation or body manipulation (possibly biokinesis) that should not be used by people with cancer. As is imaginable, a person with both cancer and biokinesis could cause it to spread rapidly.

I have biokinetic ability, and this thought scares me, though I'm cancer-free.
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CJ



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pyrokinesis can also be performed by using psychokinesis in order to speed up molecules, creating heat or fire. Using this method directly on a person could lead to some pretty serious damage, but probably no mutations. If the person already had cancer, then i suppose you could accidentally help the cancer grow faster.
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Logarith



Joined: 17 Feb 2008
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 1:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also, you could simply burn yourself while practicing thermokinesis. I've done it many a time while doing a candle exercise Wink . I was holding my finger in the flame, absorbing as much of the energy I could. It worked at furst, but then I lost concentration and burned myself Sad
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Ratmaster



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PostPosted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 3:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cancer cannot grow without 4 important factors:

1) A mutation must occur within the nucleus of the cell that causes it to grow, reproduce, and repeat, skipping it's "vegetative" state (the one where it's functioning, not reproducing or growing).

2) A mutation must occur that nullifies touch inhibition. Healthy cells will not divide if they are touching another cell on all sides. Cancer cells ("transformed cells", to use the official name) ignore this and grow on top of each other, forming a tumor.

3) The body's natural defences, including methods of repairing DNA damage and cells that hunt and eat transformed cells, must all fail.

4) Angiogenesis, the creation of many new blood vessels, must occur. Transformed cells need more oxygen to grow than normal cells because they do it quickly.


In my opinion (I'm neither doctor nor pyrokinetic), I would say that the odds of all 4 of these occuring simultaneously from a spell seem rather slim.
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Logarith



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 3:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also, I have something to add from a more medical point of view. Cancer can only be caused by two things, actually: radiation and chemicals. Radiation can cause it by some large (or small, but larger doses have statistically larger chances of creating cancer cells) dose of X-Rays, Gamma rays, even UV rays hitting the body. Chemicals that cause it are Methyl Ethyl Ketone, Asbestos, etc.

Both of these causes create strange, currently unknown chemical reactions that change DNA structure in the nucleus of the cell, which causes that cell to change form and perform mitosis much faster than any normal cell.

That being said, the only way pyrokinesis (or cryo) could cause cancer is if you somehow learned how to create (or absorb, in the case of cryokinesis) radiation bursts large enough to infuence the rest of the body. Doing this would involve using an extremely large amount of energy, pretty much impossible without channeling some other energy from something else.

Hope that helps!

~ROBO~
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Ratmaster



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 10:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, Logarith.

For those who are curious, what makes radiation harmful (not all radiation is harmful. . . you need it at a specific range of wavelengths to be able to see, and a different range to have heat, for example) is one of 2 things:
-UV light and other "non-ionizing" radiation cause Thymine, a part of your genetic code, to link together, making them unreadable.
-Gamma radiation and other "ionizing" radiation cause electrons to change the shape of both genes and proteins, making them unreadable.

Ok, well, it's not really quite that simple, but I'm going to take a guess and say that most of you aren't up to date on your biochemistry.

As another sidenote, most mutations from ionizing radiation result in the death of the cell. It's the non-ionizing stuff, for the most part, that makes cancer happen.

Pyrokinesis would utilize radiation in the infrared spectrum, which is heat. It would kill your cells long before it could change your DNA, and since dead cells can't reproduce, it won't cause cancer.
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