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Munchkin · Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 9:21 pm Post subject:

wow that's fascinating, about the date 11/11/11 being when people will be "getting it" or open to it.

Is that why i recently kept seeing 11:11 on clocks, because I was getting it then? I was ready or something?

Caerdon · Joined: 18 Sep 2009 Posts: 120 Location: Canada

Interesting theories here. Goes from ultimate distruction to ultimate enlightenment, and even to us being the haralds to prevent disaster.
About the only thing correct, or known for sure, is that a cataclysm is going to happen. And i am using the definition: "A violent upheaval that causes great destruction or brings about a fundamental change".
What we do, how we'll react, is what's going to be important, if anything will be.

psychic_toon · Joined: 04 Oct 2009 Posts: 2

Hi, check out this video.. It talks about the galactic alignment and the science behind 2010!! Smile

http://nasa-space-info.blogspot.com/2009/08/nasa-doomsday-2012-galactic-alignment.html

martouk · Joined: 22 Feb 2011 Posts: 60

I know this is an old thread but thought I'd throw my 2 cents worth in.

The predictions of violent upheavel were predicated on trends seen by observers from the Mayans to Nostradamus. The problem with any prophecy is that it is generally only good for a certain period after it is viewed and all prophecies can be changed depending on peoples' choices.

As late as the time of Nostradamus, the energetic trend was geared for doom. But due to the accelerated nature of events over the past 500 years, the gloom and doom scenario has been 'softened' - mostly predicated on the energies coming in and the removal of the hostile tyrannical forces who have ruled for millions of years from afar.

Many millions of people on the planet are receiving many energies of different frequencies from all across our universe. They are many millions who are not receiving them.

What we will see is a destruction of the old system of tyranny. We will not see an absolute collapse of all systems that we are currently familiar with, but we will see disruptions as the changes due to the energy influx happen over a period of time.

There will be an instantaneous wave of enlightenment for all who are here. Many of us, based on our spiritual work, will wake up the next morning and it will just be another day, albeit possessing a sense of higher consciousness. Others will feel the 'sting' of the final energy surge when it happens. Still others may go 'nuts' because they can't deal with the energies. There will not be a single mindset or collective consciousness where everyone thinks the same. We will all more become aware of the consequences of our action.

There are already mass exoduses taking place with certain soul groups in the form of wars and natural disasters. After the date of the shift, people will wake up with a new awareness and there are many who will be the instruments of change on the planet. The ancient tyrannies will be exposed and the perpetrators will have to 'pay their dues' for their actions. Corrupt systems will be exposed and fall. Corrupt politicians will be held liable for their actions. Corrupt judges will be removed from their benches. None of this will happen in an instant or in a day or a year. The clean up process of thousands of years of hidden tyranny will take time, but it will move faster than anything in our past.

There will still be multiple levels of people developing spiritually. Those who have put the most effort into accessing and gaining their own power will in many cases be the teachers for others who have the desire to know more and be better. In many respects, people will grow a conscience and they will know the cost of their actions, thereby bringing about a more sane and peaceful world.

Almost all organized religions will crumble for they will be seen for the falsehoods they profess. There will still be 'pockets' of religionists here and there, but they will generally devolve more into social clubs rather than religions and prosletyzing will come to an end.

Monetary infaltion will rear its ugly head and there will be disruptions in food supplies to major population centers, which is liable to cause food riots. We are already starting to see some of this in the world today. Despite global financial mismanagement, currencies will stabilize and we will not immediately get away from money systems. There will however no longer be the control of monetary policies by a handful of individuals.

Forms of government will change.

From that point onward, it will be up to all of us what we make of the world.

zetrone · Joined: 13 Jun 2010 Posts: 199

You can look at this any way you want.

Each person's view of it is like a poem.

To understand TOTALLY, one has to close down their view and ACCEPT the POEM of another .....at least for a time.

IN 2004 we were able to cut through all the dust and gas between our erath and the center of our galaxy with IR CCD and telescopes. What was seen was a SUPER MASSIVE BLACK HOLE with stars WHIPPING around its DARKNESS.

From the observations it was deduced that this SMBH has a mass of around one trillion suns . It is spinning so rapidly that the 3 dimenstional gravity field has been SPUN DOWN INTO A SUPER THIN PANCAKE layer at the SMBH's equator.

Since this SMBH is the ENGINE that powers our Milky Way galaxy it's equator IS THE GALAXY EQUATOR!

If you have seen the Milky Way then you have seen the result of the gravity pancake of the SMBH. Everything in the galaxy is in this narrow band BECAUSE OF THE GRAVITY from the SMBH.

All those stars, nebulae, dust and gas in the Milky Way are there because of the SMBH.

Our solar sytem makes one complete revolution around the galaxy center in about 250,000,000 years. Every 35,000,000 years or so the solar system CROSSES THE GALAXY EQUATOR. This is what the Mayans were talking about for 2012....we...our solar system ....will pass through the SMBH's pancake thin gravity disk The Mayan's also used the term DARK RIFT. and they even mentioned something similiar to BLACK HOLE as to what was at the center of the Milky Way.

I think that even those who know NOTHING about 2012 ....are still experiencing a FEAR about what is going to happen soon TO ALL OF US. If someone pointed to the Milky Way in the dark sky 7000 years ago and told you WE ARE GOING IN THERE.......you would be scared.

The BUZZ about planet X, Brown dawrfs, Niberiu, and so on is a REAL CONCERN. WE....the earth and our solar system are ALREADY WITHIN THE Suoer thin Pancake gravity disk of the SMBH.

There are anomolyous magnetic and gravity waves hitting the earth now. Some sources say that it is not December 2012 but October 2011 that marks the earth's being in the centre of the Dark Rift. This CORRECTION was made because our calender has changed since the Mayan's made their perdictions. WE are OFF by that amount.

NOW, what does this mean to we humans. Einstein predicted that an increase in gravity field causes TIME DILATION. This has been shown to be true and measured between the Space Station Astronauts and earth humans.

Aside form being a traget for a celestial object we each are going to undergo TIME DILATION.

The physical, psychological, and spiritual effects of TIME DILATION will be different from individual to individual. A positive outcome will depend heavily on a persons SPIRITUAL beliefs and level.

If you want to hear more of my 2012 POEM, let me know,

David

Sorcerer · Joined: 15 Aug 2009 Posts: 457

Zetrone, i want to hear more of your beliefs on this.I personally believe in what you are saying but i feel there is too much exaggeration about 2012 like many people saying there will be an 'instantaneous wave of enlightenment'.

That's ridiculous,the karma this planet has accumulated for so many centuries cannot be cleared so quickly in a single day or a month.Well if that happens,many people will not be able to handle it.

I feel that there is going to be a consciousness shift but not in the way people are thinking.

There is so much much more to do before we see these profound changes people are talking about like 'Earth finally reaching ascension in 2012'. lol

2012 is when the major transition to enlightenment will begin and it may take about 50 years or more to complete before the planet finally ascends.

zetrone · Joined: 13 Jun 2010 Posts: 199

I agree with you, it is almost as if THERE IS NO WAY to "say" right now what will take place at the 2012 event.

And, many people will not be prepared especially in the SPIRITUAL sense.

The element of TIME is particuliar difficult to explain as far as the 2012 thing is concerned.

David Wilcox (sp) has stated that the government has a device to time travel someone into the future. He said it was the basis for a SciFi series on TV . They always HIDE their secrets in PLAIN VIEW.

As relates to this device, which David said has been used to discover who will win the presidental elections runs into a STATIC FILLED Brick Wall at the date 12/21/2012. The TRAVELER cannot see here or into the further future from that point in time onward. So the conjecture is that a FUNDEMENTAL CHANGE in the actual Space-Time that we humans live in takes place at this date.

Another ancillary note: how did the Mayan's know about this Black Hole, and about the date of our solar system crossing the galactic equator??? The last time this happened was 35,000,000 years ago!!! Did the Mayan's INTUIT what is going to happen from their astronomic measurements...........OR DID THEY HAVE EXTRATRESTRIAL HELP????

There are still people wanderimg around in NEVERLAND trying to put togther what WILL HAPPEN in the 2012 event. I simply stumbled upon a documentary about the SMBH and put 2 and 2 together and got a COMPLEX MATRIX out of it. lol

As I stated in the last post EVERYONE on earth is going through TIME DILATION......because of the effects of the region of space our solar system is now traversing (the pancake SMBH gravity disk). Remember to consider what having ALL of a 3 dimensioal gravity field crunched down into a very thin disk means as relates POWER. The pancake gravity disk of the SMBH represents an ENORMOUS increase in gravity in that disk. Even at 22,000 or so light years away from the center of the galaxy our solar system is ALREADY feeling the GRAVITY WAVES buffeting

The galactic equator region of space is where all the cosmic entities reside; planets X,Y,Z and all sorts of exotic matter (such as a chunck of a neutron star that NASA thinks is Ellenin).

OUR WHOLE SOLAR SYSTEM IS NOW A "TARGET". If we avoid an extinction level event of somesort then we all have to STILL DEAL with the TIME DILATION.

People will relate that they feel time is moving FASTER now. It is said that the time between your INTENTION and its MANIFESTATION is getting shorter and shorter. Soon your MANEFESTATION will "happen" immediately after you intone an INTENTION.

It is VERY DIFFICULT to characterize Time Dilation so that someone can understand what you are talking about.

This is how I explain TIME DILATION. It is neither a speeding up or a slowing down of TIME. You might characterize it as the OPENING UP OF TIME.

The TWIN PARADOX: Two identical twins on earth, one decides to get on a rocket ship and travel close to the speed of light for a certain interval of that trip. The other twin stays on earth.

We are going to LOOK and LISTEN to the clocks of the two brothers at the time the space traveling Brother is traveling at speed sclose to 300,000 Kilometers/sec.

The earth twin brother's clock sounds like this>>> TICK..TOCK..TICK..TOCK. We all know this However when we look at the spaceship twin's clock when he is traveling at velocities close to that of light his clock sounds like this>>>> TICK..............................................TOCK..TICK........................................TOCK.

Do you see the difference and where the term TIME "DILATION" comes from? The seconds of the Spaceship twin brother are "BIGGER".....they are DILATED

IN TOTAL fewer of these BIGGER seconds pass for the twin in the Spaceship as do for the earth twin, and when the twins meet again the earth twin has grown into middle age whereas the spaceship twin has hardly aged at all

THis sameffect the BIGGER seconds is occuring now for ALL OF US here on earth. And it will beome more pronounced as the solar system and earth get deeper into the SMBH's pancake gravity disk.

Now, a person who dies and returns in a Near Death Experience also often goes through Time Dilation. The NDE person travels through the velvety PEACFULLY SILENT black tunnel and meets the LIGHT (deity of his/her choice). There is a celebration and the NDE person talks with relatives who have passed and with Deity and others. MANY HOURS PASS. Eventually the NDE person is informed that she has to return to Space-Time as it is NOT HER TIME.

When she returns, she may find the doctors STILL TRYING TO REVIVE HER....ONLY A FEW SECONDS HAVE PASSED. For the NDE person HOURS have been lived with Deity and friends and relatives in the ZPECF.

I believe eACH OF WE HUMANS here on earth now will go through something like I outlined above. WHAT YOU ACCOMPLISH in the extra BIGGNESS of your Time Dilated seconds will determine if and how you will advance toward UNION with Deity, and ALL OF US in the Zero Point Energy Cociousness field.

A strong valid religious upbringing has layed the foundation for some of us. WE HAVE GROWN , maybe even by stricking out on our own with DEITY + ME= "WE" .

Advancement and AWAKENING are going to take place. But if someone FIRMLY BELIEVES that their SALVATION is in a DUMBS underground shelter THAT IS WHAT 2012 WILL BECOME FOR THEM. And, maybe in 20 years that person will still be survived and crawl out of the HOLE in the GROUND and die of pnemonia.

David

Sorcerer · Joined: 15 Aug 2009 Posts: 457

Very Interesting with the time dilation thing.I never thought about it that way,it answers a lot of questions.It explains why we can have over five dreams just within a few minutes.

I think we are already going through this but at a minor level.So many things have happened in the world just within the last two years.

Like what you said,its like time is moving faster than normal.We are approaching something big in the future indeed.

zetrone · Joined: 13 Jun 2010 Posts: 199

Yes , I like to use the term "in the Fullness of time" to refer to the point where time DILATES to INFINITY. In other words a day will come when if you listen to your clock there will be a TICK...................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................but no TOCK.

When that happens you are OUT of Space-Time, you are in the Fullness of Time.

I imagine the lanscape there as having Julius Ceasar over THERE and Abe Lincoln over YONDER......and so on.... You will be in what David Wilcox terms Time-Space. There will be multipule dimenstions of TIME (you can WALK over to ancient Rome, or over to the Civil War in US) and Space will be more or less like TIME is for us here (a linear progression).

I have talked with native Americans who say it is LIKE THAT in the Eternal Contiuim.

The ideas held by the majority of people and maintained by mainline Religions is that you will continue in the after life like you do here....a ENDLESS PROGRESSION of never the less "happy" time.

BUT THAT IS NOT HEAVEN TO ME. That idea reminds me of the 1950s Western TV shows......."....and they lived HAPPILY EVER AFTER....!" A DISCUSTING prospect if looked at more closely than a child would look.

It could be the 2012 thing will allow some of us (who are spiritually preparing) to ascend to the point where our handclock has a (final) TICK and we wait forever for the tOCK.lol Enterance into the ZPECF. (heaven....by anyother name).

David

zetrone · Joined: 13 Jun 2010 Posts: 199

I just ran across a specific post SpiritualPrep2012, PERSON LAID OFF FROM NASA FOR SPILLING THE BEANS ON THE SUN.

This is a Yahoo group.

The individual posting this says that an EXTINCTION LEVEL EVENT is expected when the solar system passes therough the galaxy equator and an ENERGY RIBBON from some cosmic entity (SMBH) at the center of the galaxy hits earth and the sun.

It is a VARIATION of what i have conceptulized and believe myself.

I suggest you ALL read it.

David

zetrone · Joined: 13 Jun 2010 Posts: 199

I just thought a little about that post about the ENERGY RIBBON. The guy said it happened at times in the past but not the dinosaures.

H erealated it to the hopi BLUE STAR.

I am seeing a pattern for what is going to happen that SEEMS to be based on a LOT MORE INFORMATION THAN I HAVE.

The FINAL DOOMSDAY conclusion will ALWAYS BE IN DOUBT til it happends, but I think this guy is on the right track.

Would appreciate any commenets and ideas.

David

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