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dumbgump



Joined: 27 Jul 2011
Posts: 12

PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

d_redant wrote:
Wrong... And you know nothing about demons..

I think you're a religious freak.. You know nothing about anything really spiritual. You are lost..

Did your Church send you here?

dumbgump wrote:
If you were a real demon as you claim or was one is a former life as you claim you would truly know and fear Jesus as the only one who can destory demons. You are living under the delusion of your vivid imaginations and dreams and are leading others into a very very dangerous life. And yes I have the only authority there is on the subject of demons, the Bible. All else is speculations, guesses, and theories of a fanciful mind, and can never be proven.

Well my friend if just believing the Bible and pointing out what it says makes me a religious freak then I guess I am. And I don't have a "Church", so not my church did not send me here. I just don't like to see unsuspecting people get led down a very dangerous road in life.
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SOL12



Joined: 28 Jan 2011
Posts: 219
Location: Erie

PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 6:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You come off as one when you hold the bible to be of the highest truth and discounting others. While danger is a factor it isn't as bad as many believe. Seldom do demons seek to kill their targets, and its yet to be seen if any have. They are also not as invulnerable or all powerful as some tend to credit them with.
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dumbgump



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 6:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

daigon wrote:
ok, on the topic of beliefs, i belief in equality and that everyone has the right to be happy. i also believe in a higher being and a devil. i believe in good and evil. and i also believe that those who endanger others lives and souls, are evil and should be dealt with. as to my origins, yes i am half demon. half auphe aka grendel to be exact. the reason i fight other demons, is because im ashamed of the evil i did in my past lives, half of which YOU wouldnt understand. as you said a house divided, yes it is divided. my name is feared in most demonic circles because of what i am. auphes have been here since before any other demon. i was also one of the worst ones out there. but i am trying to make up for my actions in the past. if you dont like it, or cant comprehend it, then shut it and leave this forum to those that do.

Oh wow, ouch, you really stripped my legs on that one, I mean, like you really put me in my place. Your arguement is illogical and makes no sense. That is like saying well I am a bad person, so now I want to make up for being so bad so I am going to go and kill every other bad person I can find. Hum?????
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dumbgump



Joined: 27 Jul 2011
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SOL12 wrote:
You come off as one when you hold the bible to be of the highest truth and discounting others. While danger is a factor it isn't as bad as many believe. Seldom do demons seek to kill their targets, and its yet to be seen if any have. They are also not as invulnerable or all powerful as some tend to credit them with.


Ah but therein lies the problem. They don't have to be all powerful. All they have to do is to get you to disbelieve God and His word and they have captured the soul. They don't even have to get you to disbelieve God totally. Just get you to believe that your views are just as important and factual and relavant as His. Therein is the hidden danger. And yes I believe the Bible is the highest truth and if others contradict what it says, then yes I will discount it.
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SOL12



Joined: 28 Jan 2011
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Location: Erie

PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2011 7:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And that is where your views become seen as norrow minded, but I digress. There are many similar teachings and concepts also seen in spirituality by different names so it's not so bad.

Demons are very gifted at steering people down the wrong road, this is true, as well as many other plays that can spell trouble. However, they don't only subject such attacks to those who hunt or "play" with them, but mostly the innocent and good, as this would be a greater victory for them in many ways. They also tend to obstruct psychic growth and the like or even go as far as to turn their target to their team. While all of this is dangerous to deal with if not necisary, for those who can learn from them and fight on their grounds, and feel compelled to help those they attack and mislead, it is up to them if they choose to stand by and watch or take action. I do however feel that too many people interested in "hunting" seem to be idiots whose only knowledge base is from tv and movies and think that they can just look online, find where a demon is at and go kick its ass or something. I feel the field is incredibly misunderstood by most, and without an actual conversation its hard to discern whose for real and whose talking out their ass.

While at first he seemed knowledgable and you seemed fantatical, now that more has been expanded it now appears opposite, though I wont assume any more than has been expressed anymore as I tend to be too trusting.
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shadowofthexend



Joined: 27 May 2011
Posts: 23

PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 9:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thank you SOL12 for somewhat defending me early. I am sorry, I usually use the modern derivative of the word daemon because not many people actully know the origin. The word existed long before the bible. Up until the story of Pandora, daemons were generally referred to as benevolent beings. The modern religious writings, such as the bible, use the later term to denote evil spirits. Many of the first civilizations used daemon interchangably with god. I am in no way claiming to be a god. I am just verifying that I use the older definition of daemon.

To dumpgrump, the beings to which I refer existed long before the bible. The bible unless for religious purposes should be thought of as a book of guidelines for being a good person, in my opinion. I fear no cross nor water. The bible holds no power over me. Understand it is not meant to be one hundred percent literal.

To daigon, I agree with SOL12 that you must have gotten your information mostly from anime. I was not "sired" by another daemon. The modern breed are to weak for my pride to allow me to have come from them. If you were sired, I pity you, as you are limited in knowledge and talent amongst daemons. Daemons of the older times do not flaunt how powerful they are. My earlier statement was of the older breed. They are not problem causers for anyone. The dignity and pride of the old kind are to great to let their names be soiled for the follies of the new ones. My meaning of daemon, do to stated pride and dignity, prevent me from considering the new breed my kith and kin.

I hope any quarrels do to my earlier post are halted by this.
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SOL12



Joined: 28 Jan 2011
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Location: Erie

PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 4:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think they're done now. And no problem, I can't stand intolerance or fake experts/manga freaks. I don't see demons as a basterdization of daemons but as seperate entities with the new word being formed for clarity.
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shadowofthexend



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 9:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is a good way to clarify the two types. Like I said, I only use "demon" because not many people know "daemon" or its origin.
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SOL12



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Location: Erie

PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 1:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, and even some still misunderstand the difference.
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shadowofthexend



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 5:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For example, daemons can incarnate into human form. The abilities are weakened but accessable. Demons must be sired by others to have a human form. They have few if any powers and are nowhere near strong enough to harm anyone with a little power and a clue as to how to handle themselves. The most prominent difference is the personalities. Daemons are moderately peaceful and fight only when necessary. Demons are violent and feel they must prove the empty threats they make by attacking others. Demons can be hunted if you understand the abilities of the demon, usually not harmful, and that they are physically stronger, the only true threat to a human. Daemons should not be hunted. They harm no one unprovoked, provoking one takes a lot. The abilities of a daemon, even in human, form are powerful and very dangerous. The only chance to defeat a daemon is to hope the body of the human incarnation can't maintain the energy flow needed to use the powers, as the energy flow of a daemon is differs from that of a human. Essentially this neutralizes most of a daemon powers till it can be remedied. It is currently in this state that I am stuck unfortunately.
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SOL12



Joined: 28 Jan 2011
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Location: Erie

PostPosted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 3:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

True. I think daemons are brought up too much in discussions of demons and such. True, the origin of the word is relevent but the two types are seperate subjects.
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shadowofthexend



Joined: 27 May 2011
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 5:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The two often get grouped together. The problem is that it would be very difficult to show everyone the differences and convince them to change their prespective so they may view them as seperate beings.
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SOL12



Joined: 28 Jan 2011
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Location: Erie

PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 3:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I find it to be especially idiotic when there has never been anything more to link the two than the etymology of the words. Any actual knowledge on the subject makes it very clear.
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Duneskimmer



Joined: 02 Nov 2011
Posts: 7
Location: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia

PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 8:25 am    Post subject: Possible answers to your questions Reply with quote

SOL12 wrote:
I find it to be especially idiotic when there has never been anything more to link the two than the etymology of the words. Any actual knowledge on the subject makes it very clear.


Hi guys I am just stepping in to give a few possible answer to what you have been descussing ( sorry for my spelling I am typing with candle light) over the last time and I am a newbie here so I am sorry not putting this in earlier.

1/ I am not saying who is right or who is wrong but can you say sure that the soul sociaty is not a part of a musonic lodge.

2/ When you talked about daemons are you talking of the greater ones , the ones that was here before the the universe or the ones that come after
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SOL12



Joined: 28 Jan 2011
Posts: 219
Location: Erie

PostPosted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 3:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The point was we weren't talking about daemons, this is a thread on demons.
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