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d_redant · Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 10:48 pm Post subject:

it's more evident now that this lynx character is out to cause trouble

He has been trying to intimidate me via email...and now that he's banned he told me via email:

d_redant · Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 10:50 pm Post subject:

I sure wish a member of this site had Law Enforcement links to Arizona.

AlphaLEO · Joined: 03 Apr 2008 Posts: 91

I knew something fishy about this person since day 1..
His intentions are very clear of trying to play around and intimidate, which ofcourse wont happen with most of us arnd here..
But it could potentially intimidate members who are more "weaker"

You can put him out D Smile

d_redant · Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2008 4:39 am Post subject:

yea i did..he's banned

i knew from day one too..but saw that over time he would be exposed..

it was just a matter of waiting for the right moment ...

mysticminds · Joined: 03 Oct 2008 Posts: 6 Location: India

This is a subjective theory, so my theory on God and religion is that God is an omnipresent energy source with a consciousness which is much finer than the energy of our soul. Our energy body that is our soul came from this higher and finer energy body. Religion is a way of life that gives us a path to follow to let the soul evolve and become as fine as the energy of God and become one with HIM/HER. Focusing energy towards a cause is a highly effective way to connect with the energy of the earth and the higher energy source and make things on earth happen, but things happens abiding with the Laws of Karma.

But why was the soul created? What was God's purpose in creating the world and the souls?
I am yet to find the answers and I hope I will come across it soon. Your theories or suggestions would be interesting to hear. Smile

TreeTalker · Joined: 30 Jan 2005 Posts: 31 Location: Carmel NY

God is all things. He is liken to a Sun. a white ball of energy. So intense is this light that it is hard to see. From it extends ribbons of energy. Each ribbon is a soul. What a sight to see.

God is the great consciousness. He begets all spirits. Every spirit is given individual consciousness. Each spirit can manipulate primordial energy. Each spirit has the ability to create and change.

Lacking in our consciousness is the tools to create. We must look within to find him who manifests.

Robert

victoras · Joined: 05 Sep 2005 Posts: 4 Location: waccamaw river SC

the OP is speaking of Christianity... which is the cult of personality focusing on the person 'Jesus', dubbed 'the Annointed One'=Christos....

And Not about 'God' as many replies suggest

the cult of Christianity, intentionally takes ones attention from the world of the living and the cosmos/earth/nature in which we are a component of...
and christianity creates this [u]seperation[/u] by leading individuals(souls) to a cyber-emotional realm called belief ->
for the purpose of exerting pressures to change the physical worlds
course in ongoing history. The roadmap is laid out in the series of Bible books which culminate in the destruction of culture/civilization brought forth in Daniel-Ezekiel-Revelation.

please, look past the veneer & the outer wrappings...

Christianity is a 2,000 y.o. forerunner of the role-playing game
Dungeons&Dragons, imho, if it serves your journey & individual progression, well & fine... just don't allow that emotionally charged spiritual/thoughtscape lead one to martyrdom, or selling out of ones soul or energy.

please think about a difference between christian followers and the divine God..... the two schools are not 'one' as the propaganda suggest they are,

thanks[/u]

Logarith · Joined: 17 Feb 2008 Posts: 164

victoras, I usually try not to take offence to posts in this thread because I have no problem with people expressing their own personal beliefs, but I do ask that you do not openly bash my religion by calling it a useless cult. I don't smear hindus or buddhists because I think that those people are not bad people, just different from me. My religion does not cause me to be inferior or superior to anyone else, and the same applies to yours (whatever that may be).

~ROBO~

AlphaLEO · Joined: 03 Apr 2008 Posts: 91

Dear Victoras,

I don't like indulging into an ego argument unless and until provoked personally,,so don't take my comments as an invitation for a debate Smile

I dont agree or disagree with anyone strongly cause for the fact that everyone's opinions are based on their environment and experiences, and the way one's intellect processes those experiences and make judgments. Also involved are personal "interests" and all these put together form your "opinion"

I can only say that you have rather never encountered or met any true Yogi or a real Saint, or for that matter even a Real Master. Your views are based on possible interpretation of what you must have seen within your vicinity.

Being Religious and being Spiritual are 2 different poles, Agreed!
However, please read your history more well in order to understand the origin of religion, its purpose and sadly its "manipulation" by select priests over centuries to suit their egos of "controlling ppl's life".

I am not talking abt Christianity in particular, I am talking of the very origin of all the religions across the world.
Smile

mratanas · Joined: 05 Jun 2009 Posts: 4

Dzlp0wer, thank you for your thoughts! The fun part about discussing ideas and beliefs is that we are all in the same boat of trying to make sense of the world and everything that is in it.

I somewhat agree with your idea, though I have a slightly different perspective. Assume for a moment that God truly is everything. People say that all of the time, but think about what that really means. If God truly is everything, then you are also part of God.

Now taking that a step further and relating this to the topic of religion, you have to ask yourself, if you truly are a part of God, then what purpose does religion serve?

I believe that humans are social creatures and are representative of the One Mind (God) wishing to experience what we call reality. Each of us represents a different perspective to allow God to experience the physical plane in various ways.

I believe that on Earth, cultures have formed and religions have developed because the human animal is social in nature and tends to think in groups. I don't believe any one religion is really more right than another because all religion is is a way to make sense of the physical (and spiritual) world from the perspective of a certain social or cultural group.

This is a round about way to address your idea, but I wanted to set up the framework for my thought process first.

If we now assume that we are a part of God, religion is a way to group like perspectives together, and God is fully in charge of this experience because we are in it and we are God, then I believe what many others say when they argue that we truly create the reality around us.

Yes, I do believe that Christians as a whole are able to manifest healing power and success. However, I do not believe they are able to do this because they are Christian. I believe they do this because this part of the God mind is able to focus on a set of ideas to manifest the reality that is desired.

People gravitate toward many different topics, and I believe religion is the same. Some personalities need what is offered by Christianity while others gravitate toward other belief systems. Neither is more right than the other because they are also describing the same thing but using different perspectives.

Below is a snippet of your text to tie this together...

AlphaLEO · Joined: 03 Apr 2008 Posts: 91

I was never the religious kind, as we wud all agree that Religion has delianted itself from Spiritual reality over the centuries and only emphasizes the need for faith, and doesnt really any room for exploration outside the path that is defined.

Religion as a tool to live life is wonderful, if one doesnt really wish to be an explorer or a true seeker. it is most often than not for ones whom i call "lower beings"
by the virtue of your karma and your spirit being evolved through various incarnations, I believe ppl like us on this forum are not satisfied by Anarchy of sorts built by religion.
with all due respect, religion indeed puts alot of principles and values into you, but often ropes you down within the framework.

As you go higher, and evolve, doesnt necessarily mean you wud possess greater psyhic powers, or magick.
What you would come across indeed are the realities of nature.
fundamentals of karma.
the cause and effect principle on the basis of which all nature works.

All Spiritual Seekers get blissed by the simplicity of the real TRUTH. atleast for me, i still do not see anything beyond the Karmic cycle.
it could scare the shit out of anyone who reaches closer to understanding the cycle.
once imbibed, religion becomes meaningless.

Smile

haywire · Joined: 20 Nov 2005 Posts: 183

In my opinion the ones who need religions the most are weak-minded people. In order to become stronger, one has to sever all past links and beliefs of religion and even habitual mental patterns that are not beneficial.

On the other hand, one who does not obey rules of religion is more free and more powerful than a normal being assaulted by such a belief. Everyone has a right to believe in whatever they want. In my opinion truly everything comes from: #nothingness#, or should I say "void", everything exists out of nowhere, be it human thought that constructed it or otherwise. There is no reason, yet there is reason, such a human mind has built.

This leads to the answer that there actually is no real sin or anything to feel guilty about. This is just a choice of a person to have. There is nothing I hate more than spirits and religion. That must be the fuse... I think. Those 2 things are the only thing to break my mind. I can't afford to accept either of those facts. History is repeating itself, so to say.

Everything simply is.

written by: haywire

Guenn Eona Nimue · Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 3:15 am Post subject:

I have read some of the various opinions posted on this topic, and find all of them very interesting and many are well reasoned, but in considering both the ancient and modern cultural and sociological effects of current religious practises, you may find two little books written by my grandfather, John M. Robertson, extremely helpful in the formation of a well rounded knowledge of the origins of Christianity. He left school at the age of sixteen and became a self educated scholar and prolific journalist whose writings are still referred to and valued by scholars to this day. They can be read free of charge online. Sometimes when one can see more clearly where something has come from, a deeper understanding of what it is now, and where it is going, can be more easily accomplished. Enjoy!

Google "Anglamarke" and click on "The Story Of Anglamarke" section. Near the bottom of that page click on CHISTIANITY AND MYTHOLOGY and PAGAN CHRISTS by John M. Robertson and read them both for free!

Dame Guenn Eona Nimue of "Anglamarke"

Kaydon · Joined: 26 Jun 2010 Posts: 119

IMO, the world works in many a way. The easiest way I've found to get things done is to vibrate Love and associated emotions, at all times, for all people, in all circumstances. For me, there are no exceptions whatsoever to this rule. YMMV.

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