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Philosopher's stone

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divine_source



Joined: 25 Feb 2008
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 6:49 pm    Post subject: Philosopher's stone Reply with quote

Does philosopher's stone really exists? I was watching fullmetal alchemist & just got curious.
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Ratmaster



Joined: 14 Feb 2008
Posts: 82

PostPosted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 6:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The philosopher's stone is silver ore (or so sources say. Google it). It is believed to hold the key to alchemy.

As in the anime, alchemy is the study of change. It follows similar teachings to other magic, such as a "tier" of existence from lower forms to higher forms.

Alchemy takes two primary routes based on its goals. . . Western alchemy was primarily for profit, turning lead into gold and the like, and had some emphasis on health and medicine. Eastern alchemy, on the other hand, had a high emphasis on healing and immortality, with some emphasis on profit (as a historical note, it was a Chinese alchemist who invented gunpowder. He mixed honey, sulfur, charcoal, and potassium nitrate together and heated them, in an effort to make a potion for immortality. He narrowly escaped death by immolation from the resulting fire.)

Alchemy is not my area of expertise, but it's about inducing the evolution of a lower form to a higher form, be it a simple stone transforming into a diamond, or a man transforming into a god. But there is no single object granting limitless power to change the world.
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Avatar186



Joined: 27 Oct 2005
Posts: 181

PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 11:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ah. hahahahaha! you must realize, you still must have the philosophers stone, befor you can turn lead into gold. and the stone itself is perfect unity , thus it perfects all els. thus lead into gold is their example.
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lenred
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Joined: 01 Jan 2008
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Location: US

PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 4:24 pm    Post subject: Re: Philosopher's stone Reply with quote

Yes indeed the philosophers stone exists. You can read my story "The Philosophers stone" for my personal experience with it.

Lenred

divine_source wrote:
Does philosopher's stone really exists? I was watching fullmetal alchemist & just got curious.
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Tomtom



Joined: 02 Nov 2009
Posts: 11

PostPosted: Tue Nov 10, 2009 8:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I must admit, every time I hear 'Philosophers Stone' I think of Harry Potter! O dear...
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chapmad2



Joined: 12 Aug 2008
Posts: 45
Location: Cairns, Australia

PostPosted: Mon Nov 16, 2009 3:21 am    Post subject: Re: Philosopher's stone Reply with quote

lenred wrote:
Yes indeed the philosophers stone exists. You can read my story "The Philosophers stone" for my personal experience with it.

Lenred

divine_source wrote:
Does philosopher's stone really exists? I was watching fullmetal alchemist & just got curious.


Do you have a link to your publication you are talking about?
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NightWriter



Joined: 16 Jan 2010
Posts: 8
Location: Branson, MO

PostPosted: Thu Jan 21, 2010 9:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe it does.

I'm currently reading The Philosopher's Stone by Joseph P. Farrell... he gives a lot of evidence for it.
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Sorynzar
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 22, 2010 11:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, the philosopher's stone does exist. Not so much a stone but crystalline in nature, the average person would perceive it as a chalk substance, or stone.

Alchemy is the process of transformation, the true application is the transformation of the alchemist as they feed themselves with the manna derived from the philosopher's stone. Once the saturation is at a high enough level the alchemist can ascend.
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Hemlock



Joined: 01 Feb 2010
Posts: 20

PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 4:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kudos, Ratmaster. Very informed post.

The Philosopher's Stone is not a single stone that many have claimed to work with, similar to The Horned Staff. In pre-modern alchemy the emphasis on "the catalyst of change" drew many to the belief more than a physical process was necessary. Because of this many began to store wells of energy. Most alchemists used various crystals and gemstones, especially quartz, due to its innate ability to retain energy.

The name Philosopher's Stone seemed to be the term that stuck, and was of course discovered by popular culture (like the term "book of shadows" for a magick tome).
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Sorynzar
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 8:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I retract my original statement about the philosophers' stone.

The Philosophers stone is not a stone as such but has the visual properties and dimensions of a precious stone. The stone can be made into a number of colours depending on which path and metal the alchemist has chosen to make the stone from.
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Plasmah77



Joined: 11 May 2010
Posts: 14

PostPosted: Tue May 18, 2010 6:18 pm    Post subject: Re Reply with quote

I believe the Philosopher's stone is the magic mushroom. That is what is really is.

I read a few books about it and I think most likely that is exactly what it is.

Manna=The Mushroom

Mushrooms and mankind by James Arthur
Magic Mushrooms in religion and alchemy by Heinrich
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Heka



Joined: 14 Jun 2006
Posts: 9

PostPosted: Tue Oct 25, 2011 4:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, its a real physical thing. Take a look at this. http://bookofaquarius.forgottenbooks.org/
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LaceyMP



Joined: 15 Oct 2015
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 19, 2015 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good question. The philosopher's stone is seen by many on different ways, so of course the story is not real (just a myth), but the "stone" indeed exists.
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